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lombas
29th November 2007, 10:03
Hostility to political power as such is an old view, and was held by the American founders. In a letter to his son in 1943, Tolkien identified with the most radical form of that view: "My political beliefs lean more and more to Anarchy... ," he wrote. "The most improper job of any man, even saints, is bossing other men. Not one in a million is fit for it, and least of all those who seek the opportunity."

That volcanic word, "anarchy," combined with Tolkien's obvious distaste for mechanized industry, seems to associate him with the black-masked WTO window-smashers. But Tolkien was no revolutionary. If he could not live under zero government — and he could not — he said he would choose a king "whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways or race-horses."

The creatures created in Tolkien's image were the Hobbits. As Brian Rosebury notes in his book "Tolkien: A Cultural Phenomenon" (Palgrave, 2003), the Hobbit homeland is anarchistic in that it has "virtually no government apart from an elected mayor whose main duty is to preside at banquets." But it is a Tory anarchism. The Hobbits are property-owning farmers. They are rustics, wary of out-landish foreigners. They smoke pipes, drink ale and eat stew.

The Hobbits who undertake the quest are not assigned to do it, and officially they represent no one. It is their choice. In Tolkien's world, writes Discovery fellow John West Jr. in "Celebrating Middle Earth" (Inkling, 2002), "We have genuine moments of moral freedom, and those moments are critical for determining our individual destinies."

(Source (http://www.discovery.org/a/1743))

Apparently, in some period of their lifetime, Orwell and Tolkien decided to label themselves "tory anarchists". What do you people think about it?

PS: Please not another discussion about sectarianism.

;)

Raúl Duke
29th November 2007, 10:10
Did they actually call themselves that?

Sounds like the would fit well with either anarcho-cappies or anarchist individualists (mutualists)... :huh:


They smoke pipes, drink ale and eat stew.

:D
Doing this does not make you any more or any less a revolutionary.


That volcanic word, "anarchy," combined with Tolkien's obvious distaste for mechanized industry, seems to asso.ciate him with the black-masked WTO window-smashers.

Not really...

Although it might associate Tolkien with the primitivists.

lombas
29th November 2007, 10:14
I know, I think it is just to describe the ideals they had about how anarchy 'should' look like.

apathy maybe
30th November 2007, 01:27
I'm not sure as to Tolkien's political opinions or lack there of (from that quote, which incidentally I don't trust, it sounds like he was a individualist/mutualist agrarian). But I'm reasonably sure what Orwell was.

Orwell was a socialist, a democratic socialist. Not exactly a statist, nor an anarchist. Personally, I'm not sure he even knew exactly himself.

He admired the anarchists in Catalonia, but he wanted a distinctly "English" socialism. I would suggest, as a start, Orwell's essay The Lion and the Unicorn: Socialism and the English Genius (http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/lion/english/).

But no way were either capitalistic of any sort (individualism and mutulism are distinct and different from capitalism...). Indeed, it is rare, I would suggest, to find an author of such note who would specifically uphold capitalism as against anything else. (Though I know they exist, and I don't need examples...) Indeed, most people merely accept what they have without thinking overly about it.