Oil sands.

[TheDifferenceEngine]

I've heard a lot about these Giant Pockets of Bitumen in Alberta that could practically fuel the western world for the next century.

Thing is, I've also found that there are Oil sands near the Orinoco in Venezuela that make alberta's deposits look like a cupful of lamp oil.

Infospam and discussion commence!

[Lynx]

Yes, there's a lot of that stuff. Saudi Arabia size reserves and even larger reserves not yet recoverable with current technology. Alberta is using natural gas to process part of the tar sands as we speak.

[Organic Revolution]

Wonderful... More dependence on oil.

[Everyday Anarchy]

Every time we switch from one nonrenewable resource to another, we are simply treating the symptoms of a major problem that needs action to be taken at the root of the problem. These fuel alternatives that are just as nonrenewable as natural gas are merely prolonging the inevitable; punishing future generations for the crimes of the past.

Like Organic Revolution said, this is simply more dependence on oil. Albeit a new source, but still dependence on something environmentally lethal and nonrenewable.

[TheDifferenceEngine]

There's an upside: With so much fuel just across the border in a sattelite state, the US dosent need to go invading every middle eastern country that has a couple of oil wells.

[toater]

because that will stop them?

[AGITprop]

the problem with canadian oil sources is that because it is in sand form, it takes much more time, and more mney to extract the fuel. I live in eastern Canada and alot of the time it is much cheaper for us ti imprt our oil from somewhere else than to get it from alberta. the us will never JUST rely on this source of oil becase thewy want control ver every source which is bringing in the cappies billions. lol my mom just told me " there is nothing wrong with CapitALISM...lol " sorry off-topic

[Lynx]

Consuming one non-renewable resource to produce another is kind of insane.

[Great Helmsman]

They steal native land, and then they pollute it with dangerous industrial waste.

It's already the largest source of green house gases Canada, and it's going to get a whole lot bigger.

[piet11111]

the united states are not after oil itself they want to control where that oil goes to.
they want to put a noose around china's neck and force them to jump through every hoop they have or they take away the oil.

the ability to deny other country's vital resources is a much more powerfull weapon then any nuclear arsenal and its the essence of american imperialism.

[Vanguard1917]

It's all good being against oil, but you have to come up with alternatives. Many of those who campaign against oil also campaign against the alternatives - such as nuclear power and hydroelectric power.

Two billion people - almost a third of the world population - have no access to electricity: i.e. they don't even have a simple light bulb in their homes. The truth is that, if we want the developing world to have the living standards which many of us take for granted in the West, we're going to see massive increases in energy consumption in the future.

Where is this energy going to come from? From solar panels and wind turbines?

The green movement's dogmatic opposition to 'nonrenewable resources' needs to be resisted.

[Wilfred]

Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 06:18 am
It's all good being against oil, but you have to come up with alternatives. Many of those who campaign against oil also campaign against the alternatives - such as nuclear power and hydroelectric power.

Two billion people - almost a third of the world population - have no access to electricity: i.e. they don't even have a simple light bulb in their homes. The truth is that, if we want the developing world to have the living standards which many of us take for granted in the West, we're going to see massive increases in energy consumption in the future.

Where is this energy going to come from? From solar panels and wind turbines?

The green movement's dogmatic opposition to 'nonrenewable resources' needs to be resisted.
Sigh, perhaps because there are very many feasability studies out there which show that the sun and wind *can* supply that power? And another sigh, because perhaps you do know of some way in which e.g. the alberta oil sands will have enough say water to provide all that oil?