Anarchists economics

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

Are anarchists opposed to Marxists economics? I have read somewhere that they do follow the Labour Theory of Value...is this true?

I would like to learn more about the economics of Anarchism, such as how the wealth would be distributed to the people...would it be owned by the state (comprised of elected workers subject to recall at any time)

This may sound confused, but I have been reading bits and pieces here and there, as oppose to one book on the subject..could you point me in the direction of one!!!! :blush:

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by Y Chwildro Comiwnyddol [email protected] 25, 2007 12:06 pm
Are anarchists opposed to Marxists economics?
No.


I have read somewhere that they do follow the Labour Theory of Value...is this true?

Class struggle anarchists accept this to be true.


how the wealth would be distributed to the people...would it be owned by the state (comprised of elected workers subject to recall at any time)

The fundamental difference between Marxism and anarchism is the question of the state. Marxists see the state as a necessary evil that can be used to hegemonise the working class and begin a transition to communism, anarchists reject this because of a different analysis of the state.

To answer your question, simply. Communities and workplaces would federate to understand need and organise production and distribution accordingly.


could you point me in the direction of one!!!! :blush:

Fields, Factories and Workshops by Peter Kropotkin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fields,_Factories_and_Workshops)

[RedStarOverChina]

I think Mikhail Bakunin translated Das Kapital into Russian...and he probably liked it somewhat.

[Lenin II]

What about the concept of dialectical materialism and a materialist perception of history? How do anarchists feel about that? Do you see most history as a history of class struggles and material whatnot, or as a history of oppressive authority?

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

Originally posted by The Anarchist [email protected] 25, 2007 12:31 pm


To answer your question, simply. Communities and workplaces would federate to understand need and organise production and distribution accordingly.


Would that in effect form a state? But one fndamentally different from a bourguoise, or even state socialist one. So there would be no transactional stage as far as democracy is concerned, a whole new worker "owned" state would be made directly after capitalisms fall?

Thanks for the replies

[dirgenightingale]

Originally posted by Lenin [email protected] 25, 2007 10:59 am
What about the concept of dialectical materialism and a materialist perception of history? How do anarchists feel about that? Do you see most history as a history of class struggles and material whatnot, or as a history of oppressive authority?
history as an oppressive authority, definitely. being a slave to history causes one to repeat it. it's difficult to find new solutions to problems when one is faced with the sum of history. also, history demands that one value their ideas and opinions less than those in history, which is detrimental to creativity.

[blackstone]

Are anarchists opposed to Marxists economics? I have read somewhere that they do follow the Labour Theory of Value...is this true?
I'm going to answer this by replying that, like Marxists, not all anarchists are the same or adhere to the same theories. This not only applies to strategy, but Marxian economics as well.


I would like to learn more about the economics of Anarchism, such as how the wealth would be distributed to the people...would it be owned by the state (comprised of elected workers subject to recall at any time)

Again, not all anarchist strategy of distribution procedures are the same. I can only comment on anarchosyndicalism, which is a particular revolutionary strategy or strategic orientation.

In a post-revolutionary society the means of production are owned by everyone in equal share and not by one particular production group. The bourgeoisie and petite bourgeoisie will no longer have a monopoly on the decision making process. Each actor in society would influence decisions in proportion in which they are affected by them. Society will thus be participatory and egalitarian.

Participatory planning allows participants to exercise direct democracy and allows ordinary citizens to control their own lives. Citizens of a post-revolutionary society will be organized into federations of workers and consumer councils. Workers in worker councils need to articulate proposals on what and how much they want to produce, as well as the resources needed for production. Consumers, on the other hand, will need to express through proposals what and how much they intend to consume. Both production and consumption proposals will be sent to the facilitation board where through a system of proposals, amendments, and rejections, a social plan articulated to cover the entire economy is hashed out..