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An archist
24th November 2007, 20:22
I just saw on television how Kasparov was arrested again in Russia while attending a protest against Putin. Before he was arrested, he was surrounded by nazbol flags.
Out of interest: is Kasparov a nazbol or is he part of another opposition party?

Pirate Utopian
24th November 2007, 20:26
He probably was at an anti-Putin rally and just like some Nazbols and Kasparov just ended up near them.

Red October
24th November 2007, 20:30
Kasparov is definitely not a nazbol. I think his party is in the same anti-Putin coalition as the nazbols, so they would be at the same protests as him.

The Living Red
24th November 2007, 21:54
Who is he?

Dr Mindbender
24th November 2007, 21:57
Originally posted by The Living [email protected] 24, 2007 09:53 pm
Who is he?
the world's most famous professional chess player.

sanpal
24th November 2007, 22:50
It seems he wishes to be third after Uschenko and Saakashvilli. Organizers of "orange revolutions" use the same not constitutional methods like nazbols do.

Keyser
24th November 2007, 22:56
Kasparov is not a National Bolshevik Party (NBP) memeber.

Kasparov's party is aligned with Edward Liminov's NBP in an anti-Putin electoral coalition. This coalition has now been prevented by the Kremlin from taking part in the 2008 elections, so it is now relying on street demonstrations for it's profile.

Sir Aunty Christ
25th November 2007, 10:47
I think he's a left-liberal.

ComradeOm
25th November 2007, 12:41
Originally posted by Anarchism [email protected] 24, 2007 10:55 pm
Kasparov's party is aligned with Edward Liminov's NBP in an anti-Putin electoral coalition. This coalition has now been prevented by the Kremlin from taking part in the 2008 elections, so it is now relying on street demonstrations for it's profile.
This is it. Kasparov is the nominal head of the anti-Putin opposition alliance "The Other Russia". This group also includes the fascist NazBols which Kasparov appears happy enough to pander to.

Tower of Bebel
25th November 2007, 13:02
Originally posted by a Russian comrade
Was ist mit “Anderes Russland”?
Eine Organisation, die nicht antreten darf ist “Anderes Russland”. Es ist eine sonderbare Allianz zwischen dem neoliberalen Schachspieler Gary Kasparov und dem ehemaligen Premier (unter Putin) Kayanov mit der neofaschistischen „National-Bolschewistischen Partei“ und der neo-stalinstischen „Avantgarde der Kommunistischen Jugend“. Unterstützt wird das ganze von westlichen Diplomaten und Medien die darin eine Form von „orange Opposition“ (in Anlehnung an die Ereignisse in der Ukraine) sehen. Trotz einiger von den Medien hochstilisierter Demonstrationen, die von der Polizei brutal zerschlagen wurden hat diese Organisation keine Unterstützung in der Gesellschaft aufbauen können und bricht bereits wieder auseinander.

An organisation not allowed to participate [in the next presidential elections] is "Another Russia". It is a special alliance between the neo-liberal Gary Kasparov and the former primeminister (under Putin) Kayanov with the neo-fascist "National-Bolsheviks" and the neo-stalinist "Avangarde of the communist youth". The whole gets support from Western diplomats and media who see this as some sort of an "Orange opposition" (derived from the Ukrainian opposition). Although some of the demonstrations are reported by the media, they are brutally handled by the police, and they never succeeded in building up some basis of support; which means they might break up.

Reuben
25th November 2007, 15:01
kasparov is half jewish- the likelyhood of him being a national bolshevik is extremely low.

Demogorgon
25th November 2007, 15:49
His politics are less than appealing (he is basically a Western style neo-Conservative) but he is not a national Bolshevik. It just so happens he shares some common ground with them.

Cheung Mo
25th November 2007, 23:33
Kasparov has one thing going for him: He'd be less of a tyrant than either Yeltsin or Putin.

Demogorgon
26th November 2007, 02:02
Originally posted by Cheung [email protected] 25, 2007 11:32 pm
Kasparov has one thing going for him: He'd be less of a tyrant than either Yeltsin or Putin.
Not by the time he had fulfilled his ambitions of a vicious anti-Muslim campaign he wouldn't be.

msucommie77
26th November 2007, 02:33
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Kasparov#Politics


Politics

Kasparov's political involvement started in the 1980s. He joined the CPSU in 1984, and in 1987 was elected to the Central Committee of Komsomol. In 1990, however, he left the party, and in May of that year took part in the creation of the Democratic Party of Russia. In June 1993, Kasparov was involved in the creation of the "Choice of Russia" bloc of parties, and in 1996 he took part in the election campaign of Boris Yeltsin. In 2001 he voiced his support for the Russian television TV channel NTV.[13]

After his retirement from chess in 2005, Kasparov turned to politics and created the United Civil Front, a social movement whose main goal is to "work to preserve electoral democracy in Russia."[14] He has vowed to "restore democracy" to Russia by toppling the elected Russian president Vladimir Putin, of whom he is an outspoken critic.[15][16][17]

Kasparov was instrumental in setting up The Other Russia, a coalition including Kasparov's United Civil Front, Eduard Limonov's National Bolshevik Party, Vladimir Ryzhkov's Russian Republican Party and other organizations which oppose the government of Vladimir Putin. The Other Russia has been boycotted by the leaders of Russia's democratic opposition parties, Yabloko and Union of Right Forces as they are concerned about the inclusion of radical nationalist and left-wing groups in its ranks, such as the National Bolshevik Party and former members of the Rodina party, including Viktor Gerashchenko, a potential presidential candidate. However, regional branches of Yabloko and the Union of Right Forces have opted to take part in the coalition. Kasparov says that leaders of these parties are controlled by Kremlin,[18] despite the fact they are both strongly opposed to the president's policies.

he's not a nazbol, but he has no problem aligning himself with them.

Cheung Mo
26th November 2007, 03:01
Originally posted by Demogorgon+November 26, 2007 02:01 am--> (Demogorgon @ November 26, 2007 02:01 am)
Cheung [email protected] 25, 2007 11:32 pm
Kasparov has one thing going for him: He'd be less of a tyrant than either Yeltsin or Putin.
Not by the time he had fulfilled his ambitions of a vicious anti-Muslim campaign he wouldn't be. [/b]
Come on...At least give me Yeltsin...He was a venomous crony capitalist and much more reactionary than Kasparov regarding pretty well any social issue. And I seem to remember Putin dropping a lot of bombs on a certain Muslim neighbour.

Demogorgon
27th November 2007, 03:24
Originally posted by Cheung Mo+November 26, 2007 03:00 am--> (Cheung Mo @ November 26, 2007 03:00 am)
Originally posted by [email protected] 26, 2007 02:01 am

Cheung [email protected] 25, 2007 11:32 pm
Kasparov has one thing going for him: He'd be less of a tyrant than either Yeltsin or Putin.
Not by the time he had fulfilled his ambitions of a vicious anti-Muslim campaign he wouldn't be.
Come on...At least give me Yeltsin...He was a venomous crony capitalist and much more reactionary than Kasparov regarding pretty well any social issue. And I seem to remember Putin dropping a lot of bombs on a certain Muslim neighbour. [/b]
Putin and Yeltsin certainly pulled a lot of shit in that regard to. And I reckon part of the reason Putin's supporters don't attack Kasparov for being a racist is their own track record there. But given what Kasparov is on record wanting in that regard, Putin might even end up looking soft.

sanpal
27th November 2007, 17:49
Kasparov has vanished out of a prison. Where nobody knows ...


http://www.utro.ru/articles/2007/11/27/697720.shtml