What is this fascist talking about?!

[thescarface1989]

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Accordingly, Fascism cannot exist without broad unilateral support since its conceptual orienation - the remonstance of private interests, public morality, and collective organization - necessitates it be popular.
Without broad popular support and grass-roots organization, Fascism does not exist, and simply constitutes some form of conservative (conservative in a European sense) authoritariansim.

As always, the entire point of the creation of Fascist ideology was to represent a third state ideology ('third way') between Capitalism and Communism using Nietzscheian morality. Please refrain from diluting is original meaning, misrepresenting it, or using the term ahistorically.

On the other hand, I have no problem calling the American government greedy, authoritarian or dictatorial. Just because two movements sometimes have the same general manifestations, does not mean that they have the same roots (ideological or otherwise).

WTF is this guy taking about? Are they starting to make stuff up now or something?!

[Cmde. Slavyanski]

You must be new to this corner of politics. Fascists have been casting themselves as the "Third Way" for decades. In the post-war era, they have increasingly began identifying themselves as simply "Third Positionist" rather than Fascist.

[Whitten]

Fascism in Italy DID have popular support... for a short while. Its hard for any state to maintain itself without at least some popular support, otherwise it looses all sense of legitimacy and falls apart. Remember Musolini rose with the cheers of the people and died the same way.

[Specter]

Fascism invented the term "third way." later social democracy used it, and than it was used by some european neo-con movement, and now it has even been used by a Norwegian leftwinger who have written a book about the "Third left" (A silly person that used to run ATTAC norway)

Oh, And I almost forgott: After a long brake from third-way social democracy started to use it again, this time about their slightly more rightwinged and new-public-management style social democracy under Blair.

Everyone are third-way these days. I think the social democrats, and specialy the silly populist leftwingers should give it back to fascism where it belongs. It kind of absourd to go to fascism and steal thoughts innstead of inventing your own. Fascism should be fascism, social democracy should be social democracy, and communism should be communism. The pinko-leftwingers try to make their own soft brand of fascism, but I at least will never vote for it.

[synthesis]

The post is partially true. Fascism in its relevant historical context is the harnessing of revolutionary discontent for reactionary purposes. It is pure sophistry to say that notable instances of Fascism with popular support are discrete from conservative authoritarianism - they are one and the same.