No matter who wins, American students are screwed.

[Cheung Mo]

Republicans: Anti-science and support cutting higher education for the Hell of it.

Democrats: Currently bringing forward a proposal to eliminate student aid funding and other federal funds to for campuses that do not police the Internet usage of students on behalf of the RIAA and the MPAA.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

More important than their individual policies, of course, is the class they represent.

Both are capitalist parties, and that means workers must break from them and organize independently, regardless of their current plans to tweak the capitalist system in this or that manner.

[Dros]

Perhaps this can serve to radicalize students and expose the liberal bourgoisie as perpetrators and perpetuators of capitalism.

[Red October]

Many young people already know that neither the Democrats or Republicans will truly help them, which is one reason why youth voter turnout is so low. Regrettably this often just takes the form of apathy instead of a choice to form and independent revolutionary alternative. Since so many already know the bourgeois parties are not the right choice, we must show them a viable alternative.

[piet11111]

what else is new ?

no matter who you vote for you always get screwed and its always been that way and it will always be that way untill we get rid of this system.

in the netherlands they promise you all sorts of nice stuff only to do a 180 after the elections.

[Comrade Nadezhda]

Regardless of political party, the bourgeois state ultimately serves in the interests of its ruling class, which is why every act taken by it is ultimately only going to benefit that class. i.e. the only reason the whole "anti-piracy" bullshit exists anyway is fundamentally the same as the concept of private property, class distinction, etc. the only people who support such policies are of the bourgeois class; they own the modes of production and see everything in relation to property and ownership. everything that exists in capitalist society is merely a commodity to be bought and sold.

any bourgeois fuck would know that a student cant pay $150 for some kind of software, as they use this as a means of exploitation. the concept of "piracy" only exists along with the concept of "private property" and "ownership" if all material substances werent commodities in some form, "piracy" wouldnt exist at all. it benefits only those who own the means of production as they are the ones who profit from the capital it produces.

[Robespierre2.0]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2007 03:16 am
Perhaps this can serve to radicalize students and expose the liberal bourgoisie as perpetrators and perpetuators of capitalism.
But communists eat babies, and accordng to my Milton Friedman book, letting corporations run rampant without any regulation will automatically fix all our problems! Vote Ron Paul, lol!

I'm being sarcastic, but this is pretty much the thought process of most politically active students I know.

[Zen]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2007 03:16 am
Perhaps this can serve to radicalize students and expose the liberal bourgoisie as perpetrators and perpetuators of capitalism.
Already there, encouraging and teaching classmates about why the two-party system is flawed, why both are horrible, etc.
I've gotten in trouble for it several times already, for speaking my mind I guess. :rolleyes:

[Comrade Nadezhda]

Originally posted by Marxosaurus Rex+November 14, 2007 09:06 am--> (Marxosaurus Rex @ November 14, 2007 09:06 am)
[email protected] 13, 2007 03:16 am
Perhaps this can serve to radicalize students and expose the liberal bourgoisie as perpetrators and perpetuators of capitalism.
But communists eat babies, and accordng to my Milton Friedman book, letting corporations run rampant without any regulation will automatically fix all our problems! Vote Ron Paul, lol!

I'm being sarcastic, but this is pretty much the thought process of most politically active students I know. [/b]
It's fucked up how many people have that idea.

Participating in bourgeois elections is simply pointless.

You either have one bourgeois fuck, another bourgeois fuck, a fascist ****... so either you end up with Ron Paul, or you end up with equally fucked up candidates, which is what you ultimately get in bourgeois fuck vs. bourgeois fuck elections.

They argue for slightly different bullshit, but these are merely just arguments to create distraction and opposition of one bourgeois party by another, ultimately it is the same shit and doesn't make a difference.

Unfortunately, many students don't realize this, regardless of how "politically active" they are, if they did they wouldn't have Ron Paul stickers all over their cars and talk about him being "revolutionary".

[Enragé]

It's fucked up how many people have that idea.

Participating in bourgeois elections is simply pointless.

You either have one bourgeois fuck, another bourgeois fuck, a fascist ****... so either you end up with Ron Paul, or you end up with equally fucked up candidates, which is what you ultimately get in bourgeois fuck vs. bourgeois fuck elections.

Elections in Spain, 1936, if the anarchists had screamed "!No Votad!" again there wouldnt even have been a revolution.

Elections can be a weapon in the hands of the working class.