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Monty Cantsin
11th November 2007, 15:49
how do we demarcate between the concepts of pre-modernity - Modernity and Post-Modernity?

I'm more interested in the concept of pre-modernity - because its much less talked about.
PigmerikanMao
11th November 2007, 17:20
I think the best way to demarcate the concepts would be to look them up.

Premodernity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premodernity)
Modernity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modernity)
Postmodernity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernity)

~Pigmerikan :P
Monty Cantsin
11th November 2007, 18:40
Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2007 05:20 pm
I think the best way to demarcate the concepts would be to look them up.

Premodernity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premodernity)
Modernity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modernity)
Postmodernity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernity)

~Pigmerikan :P
i didn't ask what an online encyclopedia says about the subject. i wanted to know your understanding and thoughts on the issues.
More Fire for the People
11th November 2007, 18:53
pre-modernity : were the spectacle is associated with religious-state authority — i.e. it is not a part of private production.
Modernity: production becomes spectacular.
Post-modernity: all spectacles become inter-referential and depend on each other for meaning.

I would say these are the definitions but a part of defining the concepts.
black magick hustla
11th November 2007, 19:35
Originally posted by Hopscotch [email protected] 11, 2007 06:53 pm
pre-modernity : were the spectacle is associated with religious-state authority — i.e. it is not a part of private production.
Modernity: production becomes spectacular.
Post-modernity: all spectacles become inter-referential and depend on each other for meaning.

I would say these are the definitions but a part of defining the concepts.
the spectacle didn't emerge until the 20th century.

there was "spectacular" activity, IE, contemplating religious icons etc, but the spectacle itself is a product of capital.

Besides, Modernity started around the 17th century, production wasnt "spectacular" at that time.
Monty Cantsin
11th November 2007, 21:20
the spectacle - as in relation to Guy Debord????