The Beatles

[redrogue]

There are people who claim to hate everything the Beatles ever made and people who claim to love all of their music. Basically both categories of people are liars.

John Lennon bugged me because, its all well and good singing about revolution and change, it raises issues people wouldn't probably have given any thought to otherwise. But it's easier to shout from the rooftops about "Power to the people!" when you've got millions in the bank and EMI are paying for your studio time than it is to do something about it when you're struggling to afford the bus fare to work, where you struggle by on an average wage that you're trying to bring a family up on.
Bono is a modern day version of this syndrome, an eco warrior who uses up a thousand times more resources than he needs to putting on elaborate stage shows, a campaigner for us all to contribute towards clearing third world debt who probably has sufficent funds he'll never need to use in the bank to wipe out a large chunk of it.

Musically, John Lennon, likewise Bob Dylan, made a few really good stand out tracks, but there was an awful lot and a lot of awful space filler in between.

And what are we to make of Paul McCartney still making dirgey pointless music well past its sell by date?

[Led Zeppelin]

The Beatles have a few good songs, about as much as John Lennon had on his own.

You can say what you want about Lennon, at least he did something. It's also a lot easier for a person who has millions in his bank account to just sit on his ass and do nothing. Who was the person who funded the project to have the text "War is over, If you want" put on a billboard in every major city of the world?

He also supported the Black Panthers and was pretty important in getting a person out of jail who was prosecuted for possession of weed.

Watch the documentary The U.S. vs. John Lennon, it's pretty good.

[redrogue]

Originally posted by Led [email protected] 06, 2007 12:56 pm
The Beatles have a few good songs, about as much as John Lennon had on his own.

You can say what you want about Lennon, at least he did something. It's also a lot easier for a person who has millions in his bank account to just sit on his ass and do nothing. Who was the person who funded the project to have the text "War is over, If you want" put on a billboard in every major city of the world?

He also supported the Black Panthers and was pretty important in getting a person out of jail who was prosecuted for possession of weed.

Watch the documentary The U.S. vs. John Lennon, it's pretty good.
Hmm, billboards ... what a crafty way of promoting your records; I'll give him something, his business acumen disguised as conscientious sloganeering was spot on.
Don't know how supporting terrorists and drug users makes him a good guy. But each to his own I guess.

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by redrogue+November 06, 2007 01:23 pm--> (redrogue @ November 06, 2007 01:23 pm)
Led [email protected] 06, 2007 12:56 pm
The Beatles have a few good songs, about as much as John Lennon had on his own.

You can say what you want about Lennon, at least he did something. It's also a lot easier for a person who has millions in his bank account to just sit on his ass and do nothing. Who was the person who funded the project to have the text "War is over, If you want" put on a billboard in every major city of the world?

He also supported the Black Panthers and was pretty important in getting a person out of jail who was prosecuted for possession of weed.

Watch the documentary The U.S. vs. John Lennon, it's pretty good.
Hmm, billboards ... what a crafty way of promoting your records; I'll give him something, his business acumen disguised as conscientious sloganeering was spot on.
Don't know how supporting terrorists and drug users makes him a good guy. But each to his own I guess. [/b]

The Black Panthers were not a terrorist organization, you are confusing them with the New Black Panther party.

Read some history before posting bullshit about genuine revolutionary organizations.

[blackstone]

Originally posted by Led Zeppelin+November 06, 2007 08:27 am--> (Led Zeppelin @ November 06, 2007 08:27 am)
Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2007 01:23 pm

Led [email protected] 06, 2007 12:56 pm
The Beatles have a few good songs, about as much as John Lennon had on his own.

You can say what you want about Lennon, at least he did something. It's also a lot easier for a person who has millions in his bank account to just sit on his ass and do nothing. Who was the person who funded the project to have the text "War is over, If you want" put on a billboard in every major city of the world?

He also supported the Black Panthers and was pretty important in getting a person out of jail who was prosecuted for possession of weed.

Watch the documentary The U.S. vs. John Lennon, it's pretty good.
Hmm, billboards ... what a crafty way of promoting your records; I'll give him something, his business acumen disguised as conscientious sloganeering was spot on.
Don't know how supporting terrorists and drug users makes him a good guy. But each to his own I guess.

The Black Panthers were not a terrorist organization, you are confusing them with the New Black Panther party.

Read some history before posting bullshit about genuine revolutionary organizations. [/b]
How is the NBPP are terrorist organization?

[Led Zeppelin]

I confused him with another person who claimed that the BPP was racist, he said they were terrorist so I changed my post to that.

The point remains though; the BPP was not terrorist. And by the way redrogue, your position on the use of weed is also stupid. Are you saying that all weed users should be jailed then?

[redrogue]

as far as im led to beleive weed has not yet been legalised so therefore YES all weed users should be jailed.

[Black Dagger]

Originally posted by [email protected] 07, 2007 12:15 am
as far as im led to beleive weed has not yet been legalised so therefore YES all weed users should be jailed.
Wow, if only all revolutionaries were as militant as you! :lol:

Sorry for the sarcasm, but come on, you think that everyone should not only obey the 'law'; but you support punishing anyone who disobeys (and worse than that, imprisonment)? :wacko:

Even if that means jail time for possession of cannabis (of all the pissy, idiotic reasons to to take away someones freedom!)? Fuck, you've got to be the most pathetic excuse for a 'socialist' ive ever seen, geeze - i know you're young, but come on - this has got to be a piss take.

Let me guess, you support the police as well? Just regular folks with a job to do right?

[Pirate Utopian]

I like The Beatles, some albums they have too many similiar songs wich are basically all filler.
The White Album is the only album with no bad songs IMO.

[lvleph]

I find most of the Beatles songs to be boring, but maybe I am judging them out of context. However, classics are suppose to be timeless. There are very few Rolling Stones songs that I dislike, and very few Doors songs like I dislike. Not sure what that says about the Beatles.

Oh, if a law is unjust then there is no reason that one should be expected to follow it.

[Eleftherios]

The Beatles were a great band. Here's a great article on John Lennon:

http://www.marxist.com/john-lennon-stood-out081205-13.htm

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2007 02:15 pm
as far as im led to beleive weed has not yet been legalised so therefore YES all weed users should be jailed.
It has been legalized (or at least is accepted as such) where I live, so wrong.

[Eleftherios]

Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2007 08:15 am
as far as im led to beleive weed has not yet been legalised so therefore YES all weed users should be jailed.
Just because something is illegal doesn't necessarily make it right or wrong. I don't even know why you want all weed users to be jailed and still call yourself a socialist.