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coberst
6th November 2007, 09:16
The end of freedom

I am shackled hand and foot spread eagle on the floor of my cell. I ask my jailer everyday to set me free. Finally he compassionately sets me free.

For days I am exhilarated with the ability to freely pace about my cell. After a few weeks I begin to beg my jailer to set me free. After weeks he, being a compassionate man, sets me free from my cell.

For days I am exhilarated at the freedom to wonder about and speak with other inmates. After several weeks I begin to beg my jailer to free me and finally he relents and releases me from jail. I am overwhelmed with the sense of freedom until I, overcome with hunger and basic needs, seek some work so as to feed myself.

I find a job working on an assembly line and am exhilarated at the new found freedom. After a year I begin to seek other less strenuous and repetitive assembly line work. I wish to free myself from this robotic work I do everyday.

What is the ‘telos’ (ultimate end) of this series of ever persistent desire for freedom? Is hunger for freedom similar to hunger for food, never satiated? I don’t think so. I think the search for freedom can culminate in an ultimate and satisfying end.

Freedom, I suspect, is a search for self-determination. When we feel that we are master of our domain, when we are free to determine who we are and what we need to be our self we will have reached that ‘telos’ of freedom. I suspect this end is as unique as a finger print, it is an act of creation and can be made conscious to me only by me.

I think each of us must learn for our self what we need to secure freedom’s ‘telos’. Probably most of us find only a degree of freedom, but if we never stop looking we may continue finding more of it.

guerilla E
6th November 2007, 10:20
Freedom can be relative to the conditions around you.

Marxist view on the subject, also relative to the economic model around the subject itself, was that a slave (property) was better than a poor man in terms of having access to necessaties.

The slave lacks in the 'ultimate' freedom but has the security and gurantee of being looked after as long as he is still the property of a master. Mistreatment or abuse is comparative to the hardships suffered by a poor man.

The poor man may have the freedom to roam as he wishes; but he goes to bed hungry, cold and possibly without shelter, as such his life is not free but in a material sense dependant on being able to survive. He is not whipped nor chained as the slave, but he endures repeated difficulties of trying to get by in the world.

Freedom, in this system, is a myth. Democracy, capitalism, representative government in practice and constitutions, give us the illusion of state sponsored freedoms so that we may never truly ask our 'jailer' to free us. We know that the certain 'degrees' of freedom in this system is governed by money, material, yet freedom in theory should be the independence from any dependancy and the right to dictate the terms of your own life, without confines or trappings.

coberst
6th November 2007, 21:09
I think our degree of possible freedom is directly proportional to our degree of self-actualization. Self-actualization is a process of extending our horizons based upon our own unique potential. The further we can see the greater is our horizon for freedom.

Do you think self-actualization has any impact on the nature of freedom?

Mariam
7th November 2007, 18:05
The end of freedom presupposes the existence of such state.
So is there a state of freedom that has start and is about to end?

coberst
8th November 2007, 10:28
Originally posted by [email protected] 07, 2007 06:05 pm
The end of freedom presupposes the existence of such state.
So is there a state of freedom that has start and is about to end?
Only when we are dying.

RedAnarchist
8th November 2007, 10:30
Originally posted by coberst+November 08, 2007 10:28 am--> (coberst @ November 08, 2007 10:28 am)
[email protected] 07, 2007 06:05 pm
The end of freedom presupposes the existence of such state.
So is there a state of freedom that has start and is about to end?
Only when we are dying. [/b]
Maybe dying is sometimes the beginning of freedom. Life isn't always desirable and it certainly is never perfect.