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Psy
5th November 2007, 18:15
When looking for a job, employers look over ones employment history. They usually question gap in history especially when one quits a jobs.

So what does this have to do with capitalism? Think about it, in this system were the workers is supposedly free to work with no coercion you can't simply say in a job interview "I didn't feel like working anymore that year so I quit" as the employer is looking at how well they can exploit your ass.

I think right here is the proof that capitalism does not give incentive for workers to work hard, instead the system uses coercion by not only limiting access to the products of society but limiting access to jobs. The capitalist system coerces workers to keep working by telling workers if they have gaps in employment they will have problems finding work (which is true) on top of encouraging working to take on debt.

This is something I just thought of as I keep hearing capitalist say "communism coerces people to work while capitalism provides incentive for people to work"

Comrade Nadezhda
5th November 2007, 19:36
Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 12:15 pm
When looking for a job, employers look over ones employment history. They usually question gap in history especially when one quits a jobs.

So what does this have to do with capitalism? Think about it, in this system were the workers is supposedly free to work with no coercion you can't simply say in a job interview "I didn't feel like working anymore that year so I quit" as the employer is looking at how well they can exploit your ass.

I think right here is the proof that capitalism does not give incentive for workers to work hard, instead the system uses coercion by not only limiting access to the products of society but limiting access to jobs. The capitalist system coerces workers to keep working by telling workers if they have gaps in employment they will have problems finding work (which is true) on top of encouraging working to take on debt.

This is something I just thought of as I keep hearing capitalist say "communism coerces people to work while capitalism provides incentive for people to work"
The entire foundation capitalism exists upon involves subordination through coercive means. That is the purpose of the bourgeois state-- so that the bourgeois ruling class has control of the coercive institution of the state so that the state rules in their interests and allows for their personal interests to be attained-- through the exploitive conditions they coerce proletarians into not only by arguing that they "won't find work otherwise" or "are depriving themselves of opportunity" or "capitalism offers great means which make it possible for one to become part of another economic class by which the conditions they currently live under won't exist"--> the working-class is not only subordinate to the bourgeoisie because of they own the means of production but also because they have control over the state apparatus so that it will serve in their (bourgeois) interests. In regards to their arguments against communism-- they basically throw around bullshit about the "exploitive nature" of communism so that the proletariat simply will follow blindly in a nice, orderly line. With this, they deny that the conditions existent in capitalist society are exploitive so that their personal interests are not threatened in any way-- even when communism is clearly not as it is represented by the bourgeois ruling class-- it is capitalism which is exploitive and ultimately repressive-- once communist society is attained the such forces and conditions are eliminated.

So there it is:
In capitalist society, the subordination of the proletariat to the bourgeoisie occurs through the use of the coercive institution of the state apparatus by the bourgeois ruling class to exploit proletarians in order to serve in its bourgeois interest(s).