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redrogue
5th November 2007, 12:57
I respect the guy, he is a great voice for left wing politics.

But there are several things about him:

Meeting With Saddam - Why did he have to meet with that tyrant, this will be held against him for the rest of his political career.

Champagne Socialism - Flash cars, designer suits, expensive cigars.

Celebrity Big Brother - I just weeped when he went on that.

RESPECT split - WTF!?

THE GUY'S POLTICAL CAREER IS TARNISHED!

luxemburg89
5th November 2007, 22:21
I think he has made a number of mistakes - and I'll reserve my personal opinions on his religious apologies - yet he is still better than Bush and Brown, and MUCH better than Cameron, and I think we should support him when he criticises them. Other than that I'd probably agree with you; but although it is tarnished it is not ruined.

Ismail
5th November 2007, 22:32
Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 07:57 am
Meeting With Saddam - Why did he have to meet with that tyrant, this will be held against him for the rest of his political career.
Saddam didn't create a workers state, but he did seem to shift more towards anti-imperialism after the Iraq-Iran war.

redarmyfaction38
6th November 2007, 01:10
Originally posted by Ismail+November 05, 2007 10:32 pm--> (Ismail @ November 05, 2007 10:32 pm)
redrogue
@November 05, 2007 07:57 am
Meeting With Saddam - Why did he have to meet with that tyrant, this will be held against him for the rest of his political career. Saddam didn't create a workers state, but he did seem to shift more towards anti-imperialism after the Iraq-Iran war. [/b] oh ffs! saddam was americas puppet, the invasion of iraq was about punishing that puppet when he decided to sell iraqs oil to the highest bidder instead of of being americas *****.
he stepped out of line, the cia gave him his power and were quite willing to tolerate genocide , mass murder of trade unionists, the torture of political opponents etc. etc. as long as he didn't "muddy the waters". the first "gulf war" ended at iraqs borders, becos all the yanks wanted to do was pull him back onside.
the second gulf war, was a bout america deciding it could screw more out of iraq with saddam out of the way.
they were wrong.

Ismail
6th November 2007, 05:05
Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 08:10 pm
oh ffs! saddam was americas puppet, the invasion of iraq was about punishing that puppet when he decided to sell iraqs oil to the highest bidder instead of of being americas *****.
he stepped out of line, the cia gave him his power and were quite willing to tolerate genocide , mass murder of trade unionists, the torture of political opponents etc. etc. as long as he didn't "muddy the waters". the first "gulf war" ended at iraqs borders, becos all the yanks wanted to do was pull him back onside.
the second gulf war, was a bout america deciding it could screw more out of iraq with saddam out of the way.
they were wrong.
Saddam did not practice genocide. Also, he saw he could enlist support against Iran, so he received US aid. Was this bad? Sure it was. But I'm talking after that war, when it seems he became more anti-imperialist. He didn't achieve Socialism in his country. (nor was it his goal)

Also, didn't Saddam actually nationalize certain industries when he came into power? Not exactly a US puppet then.

Herman
6th November 2007, 09:14
He's the kind of man the left needs, especially when it comes to voice, charisma and argumentation.

The Living Red
6th November 2007, 10:52
As you say, he's a brilliant orator. I think it's definately worth us listening to what he has to say, if not outright supporting him.

And has for the Saddam controversy, no-one put it better than Galloway himself:

"I have met Saddam Hussein exactly the same number of times as Donald Rumsfeld met him. The difference is that Donald Rumsfeld met him to sell him guns and to give him maps the better to target those guns. I met him to try and bring about an end to sanctions, suffering and war, and on the second of the two occasions, I met him to try and persuade him to let Dr Hans Blix and the United Nations weapons inspectors back into the country - a rather better use of two meetings with Saddam Hussein than your own Secretary of State for Defense made of his."
- part of Galloway's testimony before the US Senate on May 17, 2005.