thoughts about TITO

[R_P_A_S]

Im up late just reading. and I happened to be checking out old world cup stats and I just wondered about the old eastern bloc countries, one being Yugoslavia... So i went on google some stuff started to read about it and I ran into this guy, "Tito" I didn't real enough.. I just sorta skim through it and It was enough to make me have mix feelings about the guy.

how come I never heard anyone talk about him? and what is your guys thoughts on him and how neutral Yugoslavia was compared to the other "communist states"?

[spartan]

Here is the Wiki article on Tito (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Broz_Tito)

I hope that this will help you comrade.

[lvleph]

I like Tito in some ways, and dislike him in other ways. However, I still feel I don't know enough about him to judge what he did. I definitely agree that each individual nation should be able to chose the way in which it follows the revolution, one characteristic of Titoism. I also agree with with Tito when it comes to freedom of speech and freedom of religion. I believe that by abolishing those two freedoms, one just puts nails in their coffin.

[spartan]

I dont really like Tito that much as he cuddled up to the western Capitalist powers too much for my liking instead of allying himself with the Eastern Bloc/Warsaw Pact in the intrests of Socialist unity.

He Liberalized the economy too much and privatized certain sectors of the economy which allowed foreign Capitalists to invest into the Jugoslavia.

The idea of Jugoslavia was a sound one which unfortunately ended in tears in the 90's :(

[long_live_the_revolution]

well, I'm from Croatia, one of the former yugoslav republics
I love Tito, as any other real communist in ex-yu
I too, am not glad that he splited with stalin and warsav pact, but he was forced becouse stalin wanted to influecne politics in yugoslavia as in every other east european state, and tito didn't wanted that, and allaiance could no longer exist, tito also made some political arrests of people who favourised stalin, but after stalin's death the relation became normal again, you could ask me some questions, becouse i'm very familiaur with this theme :D

[R_P_A_S]

Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 10:03 pm
well, I'm from Croatia, one of the former yugoslav republics
I love Tito, as any other real communist in ex-yu
I too, am not glad that he splited with stalin and warsav pact, but he was forced becouse stalin wanted to influecne politics in yugoslavia as in every other east european state, and tito didn't wanted that, and allaiance could no longer exist, tito also made some political arrests of people who favourised stalin, but after stalin's death the relation became normal again, you could ask me some questions, becouse i'm very familiaur with this theme :D
there are tons of questions. if it weren't for communism I'd never stumble upon the history of most countries. now I'm interested. I want to know the history of that entire region. Yugoslavia, Croatia, Mecedonia, Bosnia, Kosovo. all!

[long_live_the_revolution]

well, i dont know where do you want me to start from, from the begining of south slavic history(yogo=south) 7th century, or from modern,so for now i will tell you the basic,
basicly Yugoslavia(after ww2, before ww2 it was monarhy with serbian dominance) was federation of 6 south slavic nations Slovenia,Croatia,Bosnia and Hercegovina(which is consisted of 3 nations Serbian, Bosnian, and Croatian), Serbia, Monte Negro, and Macedonia.
We all speak same language(Slovenian and Macedonian is little different, but understandable, and they learnt serbo-croatian which was main language), after 90. serbian and croatian are considered as 2 different languages, but we PERFECTLY understand each other, and differances are close to unexisting.

[Die Neue Zeit]

Why didn't the stalled plans to form a "greater" Yugoslavia including Bulgaria not proceed after Stalin's death? :(

[long_live_the_revolution]

bulgaria is south slavic state(only one which was not part of yugoslavia), Tito was happy that relations between Yugoslavia and USSR was normal again(after stalin's death), and he coudn't afford to make it worse again, by calling one of Warsaw pact states leave it and join yugoslavia.
and the willingnes of bulgarians to join yugoslavia was much weaker

[long_live_the_revolution]

yugoslavian monarhy was created 1918. when south-slavic parts of austrio-hungarian empire(Croatia,Slovenia,Bosnia,Vojvodina (which is now part of serbia)) joint serbian monarhy(Serbia,Macedonia), and then Monte Negro joint Yugoslavia. This state excluded some croatian and slovenian teritory which was occupied by Italy. This state wa s nothing more than a bugeoise puppet of great powers in Europe. The dominance of serbs was one of the main problem.
Communist party of Yugoslavia was of course illegal.
Yugoslavia was quicly defeated by Hitler, and Hitler created Croatian puppet state(NDH). Croatia lost large parts of teritory again by Italy, and gained bosnia.
This state was fashist.The Yugoslav partisan movemen was the one of the strongest in Europe(and created first bigger liberated teritory), and it was directer by CPY and Tito. The partisans liberated almost all of Yugoslavia by itself(exept small part by Red Army), and that was the reason why Tito could stand up to Stalin. Tito liberated all parts occupied by Italy,(he had to give back Trieste to Italy becouse of international pressure, and Trieste was populated by mainly Italians in the city, and mainly Slovenians and Croats in the suburbs and villages aroung the city).

[long_live_the_revolution]

http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic...1&hl=croat&st=0 (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=2411&hl=croat&st=0)