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KC
5th November 2007, 06:53
I just came across an interesting book called Lenin Rediscovered: What Is to Be Done? in Context by Lars T. Lih and was just wondering if anyone's heard of it before. Unfortunately I don't have the money to buy it and my library doesn't have it, as it's so new, but it sounds like an incredibly interesting read. Here's a synopsis:

"Lenin’s What is to Be Done? (1902) has long been seen as the founding document of a 'party of a new type'. For some, it provided a model of ‘vanguard party’ that was the essence of Bolshevism, for others it manifested Lenin’s élitist and manipulatory attitude towards the workers.

This substantial new commentary, based on contemporary Russian- and German-language sources, provides hitherto unavailable contextual information that undermines these views and shows how Lenin's argument rests squarely on an optimistic confidence in the workers' revolutionary inclinations and on his admiration of German Social Democracy in particular. Lenin's outlook cannot be understood, Lih claims here, outside the context of international Social Democracy, the disputes within Russian Social Democracy and the institutions of the revolutionary underground.

The new translation focuses attention on hard-to-translate key terms. This study raises new and unsettling questions about the legacy of Marx, Bolshevism as a historical force, and the course of Soviet history, but, most of all, it will revolutionise the conventional interpretations of Lenin."

And here is a review off Amazon:

"This fat and expensive book is an amazingly thorough work of scholarship. It overturns what author Lars Lih terms "the textbook version" of the early Lenin.

The standard story of the founder of modern Communism, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, (advanced during the Cold War both by anti-Communist ideologues and by supporters of the Stalin dictatorship) is that Lenin advocated a super-centralized, hyper-disciplined "party of a new type" which would lead the working class in overturning capitalism, then rule in the name of the working class through a one-party dictatorship. This allegedly is what Lenin wrote about in his 1902 classic "What Is To Be Done," and this is what he accomplished through Russia's 1917 revolution and in the years after (until he died in 1923) -- which paved the way for the totalitarian regime of Joseph Stalin.

Through painstaking work with Russian-language sources plus a good deal of other material as well, Lih demolishes this story. One of the reasons this book is so huge is that it includes a completely new English translation of "What Is To Be Done." Lih critically scrutinizes the scholarship of many different scholars associated with "the textbook version" and essentially blows most of them out of the water (often with considerable humor). This is definitely not light reading, nor is it designed for novices in the field Russian history. But the writing is clear and quite interesting, the documentation generally compelling and persuasive, and the points made quite important for an understanding of Marxism, Communism, and Russian history.

Lih argues that Lenin was committed to overthrowing the tsarist autocracy and establishing democracy and freedom in Russia (through a "bourgeois-democratic revolution") as a precondition for organizing a working-class movement that would eventually carry out a revolution to replace capitalism (understood as an economic dictatorship) with socialism (understood as an economic democracy). As Lih shows, this orientation was consistent with the ideas of Karl Marx and of the democratic-socialist orientation of the German Social-Democratic Party of the early 20th century. The split in the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party in 1903, between Lenin's Bolshevik (majority) faction and the Mensheviks (minority) was NOT over his comrades' opposition to his allegedly undemocratic ideas, but over the refusal of a large cluster to party members to go along with a democratically-made decision over who would be on the organization's editorial board. Lih argues that Lenin was actually more democratic and less elitist than his factional opponenets!

One limitation of the book is that is stops in 1905. A related, and quite serious, limitation is that it doesn't really deal with the question of why a revolutionary like Lenin and an organization such as the Bolshevik party, so committed to democracy, should carry out a revolution which really did result in a terrible dictatorship -- and which under Stalin (who claimed to be doing it all "under the banner of Lenin") certainly became one of the worst dictatorships in the history of the world.

This problem is addressed by one of Lih's teachers, Robert C. Tucker, in a fine two-volume biography of Stalin. I also address this problem in MARX, LENIN, AND THE REVOLUTIONARY EXPERIENCE (New York: Routledge, 2006). It will be interesting to see how Lih himself deals with this in some of his future work."

Someone should definitely check this book out.

Comrade Nadezhda
5th November 2007, 13:27
They have it at the UW-Madison library I see but I could not check it out since I am not a university student. I don't see it anywhere else in the area where I live.

Die Neue Zeit
6th November 2007, 02:36
^^^ While incomplete, this Google preview is good:

http://books.google.ca/books?id=8AVUvEUsdC...-with-thumbnail (http://books.google.ca/books?id=8AVUvEUsdCgC&dq=lenin+rediscovered&pg=PP1&ots=5h9s7oAIUs&sig=fvHbUMGsQl4wrU3vsMKEoVkXXSQ&prev=http://www.google.ca/search%3Fq%3Dlenin%2Brediscovered%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26aq%3Dt%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26client%3Dfirefox-a&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title&cad=one-book-with-thumbnail)


Originally posted by Amazon review
Lih argues that Lenin was committed to overthrowing the tsarist autocracy and establishing democracy and freedom in Russia (through a "bourgeois-democratic revolution") as a precondition for organizing a working-class movement that would eventually carry out a revolution to replace capitalism (understood as an economic dictatorship) with socialism (understood as an economic democracy). As Lih shows, this orientation was consistent with the ideas of Karl Marx and of the democratic-socialist orientation of the German Social-Democratic Party of the early 20th century. The split in the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party in 1903, between Lenin's Bolshevik (majority) faction and the Mensheviks (minority) was NOT over his comrades' opposition to his allegedly undemocratic ideas, but over the refusal of a large cluster to party members to go along with a democratically-made decision over who would be on the organization's editorial board. Lih argues that Lenin was actually more democratic and less elitist than his factional opponenets!

As I've discussed here (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=72626&view=findpost&p=1292409562) and elsewhere, even this "Leninist" has argued that Lenin himself was a two-stageist of some sorts. The only reason why he was the most successful two-stageist was because, as he predicted, the bourgeoisie couldn't carry out their own tasks. It was up to the vast petit-bourgeois majority of the Russian population (ie, peasants), in conjunction with the developing Russian working class, to carry out the "democratic" tasks.

Die Neue Zeit
12th November 2007, 22:09
A rather detailed but excellent review (even though from a Trotskyist perspective, the sheer length is good):

http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Reviews.html
http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Reviews/...veredPart1.html (http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Reviews/ReviewLeninRediscoveredPart1.html)
http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Reviews/...veredPart2.html (http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Reviews/ReviewLeninRediscoveredPart2.html)
http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Reviews/...veredPart3.html (http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Reviews/ReviewLeninRediscoveredPart3.html)
http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Reviews/...veredPart4.html (http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Reviews/ReviewLeninRediscoveredPart4.html)
http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Reviews/...veredPart5.html (http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Reviews/ReviewLeninRediscoveredPart5.html)
http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Reviews/...veredPart6.html (http://www.socialistdemocracy.org/Reviews/ReviewLeninRediscoveredPart6.html)

marxist_god
2nd December 2007, 05:40
Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 05, 2007 01:26 pm
They have it at the UW-Madison library I see but I could not check it out since I am not a university student. I don't see it anywhere else in the area where I live.

Hey my friend, i dont know why a lot of leftists hate Lenin, I consider Lenin one of the best revolutionaries of all TIME !!!!!!!!!


marxist_god

Led Zeppelin
2nd December 2007, 06:01
Originally posted by marxist_god+December 02, 2007 05:39 am--> (marxist_god @ December 02, 2007 05:39 am)
Comrade [email protected] 05, 2007 01:26 pm
They have it at the UW-Madison library I see but I could not check it out since I am not a university student. I don't see it anywhere else in the area where I live.

Hey my friend, i dont know why a lot of leftists hate Lenin, I consider Lenin one of the best revolutionaries of all TIME !!!!!!!!! [/b]
Most communists are pro-Lenin, actually.

As for "leftists" in general, depends on who you include in it. :P

Comrade Nadezhda
2nd December 2007, 06:03
Originally posted by Led Zeppelin+December 02, 2007 12:00 am--> (Led Zeppelin @ December 02, 2007 12:00 am)
Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 05:39 am

Comrade [email protected] 05, 2007 01:26 pm
They have it at the UW-Madison library I see but I could not check it out since I am not a university student. I don't see it anywhere else in the area where I live.

Hey my friend, i dont know why a lot of leftists hate Lenin, I consider Lenin one of the best revolutionaries of all TIME !!!!!!!!!
Most communists are pro-Lenin, actually. [/b]
Yes, anarchists, however, are a different matter (the reason being quite obvious).

Die Neue Zeit
31st December 2007, 22:38
I wonder why somebody in this other thread (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=74744) called Lars Lih a revisionist. :huh:

coda
1st January 2008, 00:24
oh yeah.. i didn't see this thread the first time around!

<<Posted on Today at 05:37 pm
I wonder why somebody in this other thread called Lars Lih a revisionist >.

the review from the socialdemocrac states that, not me. I&#39;ve never read the book myself. just heard of it yesterday infact. the review states that some of Lenin&#39;s key ideas have been mistranslated and the book from Lih is a "correction" of that --- but again i&#39;ll say, the theory that key concepts have been mistranslated sounds like bullcrap to me&#33;&#33; I will have to get the book and check it out myself. hope i can find it&#33;