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Red October
5th November 2007, 01:07
Hollywood writers and studio representatives began last-ditch negotiations Sunday in an effort to prevent a strike, the writers union said.

"The Tonight Show" on NBC will go into reruns starting Monday if a strike begins, a network official says.

A federal mediator called the meeting between the Writers Guild of America and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television producers at an undisclosed location.

The writers' contract expired October 31, and they plan to strike at 12:01 a.m. Monday (3:01 a.m. ET) if a deal cannot be reached.

The first picket lines would be seen at New York's Rockefeller Center, followed by picket lines at various locations in Los Angeles, the guild said.

The writers want more money from the sale of DVDs and a share of revenue generated by the sale of TV shows and films over the Internet.

The studios say the demands are unreasonable and would hamper attempts to experiment with new media.

The last time Hollywood writers went on strike was in 1988. The walkout lasted 22 weeks and cost the industry about $500 million.

WGA board members voted unanimously Friday to begin the strike unless studios offered a more lucrative deal. The two sides have been meeting since July.

"The studios made it clear that they would rather shut down this town than reach a fair and reasonable deal," Patric Verrone, president of the western chapter of the guild, said at a news conference.

J. Nicholas Counter, chief negotiator for producers, called the writers' strike "precipitous and irresponsible" in a prepared statement.

Producers believe progress can be made on other issues but "it makes absolutely no sense to increase the burden of this additional compensation" involving DVDs and the Internet, he said.

The first casualty of the strike would be late-night talk shows, which are dependent on current events to fuel monologues and other entertainment.

"The Tonight Show" on NBC will go into reruns starting Monday if last-ditch negotiations fail and a strike begins, according to a network official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to comment publicly.

Comedy Central has said "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" and "The Colbert Report" would likely go into repeats as well.

Daytime TV, including live talk shows such as "The View" and soap operas, which typically tape about a week's worth of shows in advance, would be next to feel the impact.

The strike would not immediately affect production of movies or prime-time TV programs. Most studios have stockpiled dozens of movie scripts, and TV shows have enough scripts or completed shows in hand to last until early next year.

Talks between writers and producers will likely impact upcoming negotiations between the studios and unions representing actors and directors.

All those unions believe revenue from content offered on the Internet, cell phones and other platforms will grow tremendously in the years ahead, even though it's now minuscule compared with DVD sales.

Consumers are expected to spend $16.4 billion on DVDs this year, according to Adams Media Research.

By contrast, studios could generate about $158 million from selling movies online and about $194 million from selling TV shows over the Web.
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Studios argue that it is too early to know how much money they can make from offering entertainment on the Internet and on cell phones, iPods and other devices.

Producers are also uncertain whether consumers prefer a pay-per-view model over an advertising-supported system. They say they want the economic flexibility to experiment as consumer habits change in reaction to technology.

Thoughts on this? Discuss!

Nothing Human Is Alien
5th November 2007, 20:07
They are currently on strike. There was a large picket today outside of the NBC studios in New York City.

Le Libérer
5th November 2007, 20:48
Originally posted by Compañ[email protected] 05, 2007 03:07 pm
They are currently on strike. There was a large picket today outside of the NBC studios in New York City.
I will simply die without John Stewart or Steven Colbert! :)

R_P_A_S
5th November 2007, 22:01
living in hollywood this effect the work flow. one of my the girls i work with is an actress and she is nervous ass hell. im looking for a job my self and this does not help. but fuck it. gotta stand by the strikes!

Faux Real
6th November 2007, 07:58
This is a great step forward for them, and all the public exposure will definitely help their cause. If there are any scabs viewers will notice the difference in quality and support the striking writers.

I'm not a fan of most pop-culture aired on the TV today, but I have to second this sentiment:
I will simply die without John Stewart or Steven Colbert!

Orange Juche
6th November 2007, 08:18
Leno wont make new shows? Hallelujah!

Herman
6th November 2007, 09:25
I hope this cripples hollywood and all the rubbish that comes out of it, especially when such an industry pumps up American capitalist economy.

LSD
6th November 2007, 09:59
Not only is a good thing for the writers, but it's also probably the shake-up that televeision needs to finally get itself out of the 1980s and realize that timeslot programming is dead.

The future is all onDemand, the future is individualized and customized. In other words, accessble ...which will rapidly start to suck the money out of the whole affair.

That's the crisis that the "entertiainment" industry has reached; they've developed as far as they can within capitalism, but are unwilling to take that next step because it would undermine their claim to property.

It really must be quite a dilemma for them...

Luckily we have no such concerns, we already know that appeals to "intellectual property" and the like are reactionary, and that the future of entertainment rests not on commercial satisfaction but mutualistic actualization.

The line continues to move.

which doctor
6th November 2007, 13:04
Originally posted by Debora Aro+November 05, 2007 03:48 pm--> (Debora Aro @ November 05, 2007 03:48 pm)
Compañ[email protected] 05, 2007 03:07 pm
They are currently on strike. There was a large picket today outside of the NBC studios in New York City.
I will simply die without John Stewart or Steven Colbert! :) [/b]
I've heard either Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert will be paying their writers ou of heir own pockets.

I heard a report from a striking writer who said they were always writing such dull jokes and mindless drivel because they were being paid so little.

Os Cangaceiros
6th November 2007, 16:45
All I have to say is, HOLY SHIT! I'm not going to get to hear any more brilliance uttered from my television during "I Love New York 2"!! Jesus fucking christ, whatever will I do? :rolleyes:

I hope they go on strike forever. Maybe then Americans will stop being such fucking retards. It would be a start, anyway.

Nothing Human Is Alien
6th November 2007, 17:18
WSWS article on the strike (http://wsws.org/articles/2007/nov2007/wga-n06.shtml)

Comrade Rage
6th November 2007, 17:45
Fucking shit... 24 is one of the shows at risk!! :blink:

I usually root for the terrorists in that thing until the end, but this season is supposed to be about fighting the state-capitalist Chinese.

I wish the writers the best----they make about $5,000 a script-but it takes them a lot of time to write those and they're only paid if the producers pick it.


Originally posted by MPIE
Leno wont make new shows? Hallelujah!
Leno is actually walking a picket line in Burbank right now, BTW.

Red October
6th November 2007, 22:25
Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2007 11:45 am
All I have to say is, HOLY SHIT! I'm not going to get to hear any more brilliance uttered from my television during "I Love New York 2"!! Jesus fucking christ, whatever will I do? :rolleyes:

I hope they go on strike forever. Maybe then Americans will stop being such fucking retards. It would be a start, anyway.
No, you're saved! Reality TV shows will continue to broadcast because they don't rely on script writers as much!

Faux Real
7th November 2007, 01:45
Originally posted by Red October+November 06, 2007 03:25 pm--> (Red October @ November 06, 2007 03:25 pm)No, you're saved! Reality TV shows will continue to broadcast because they don't rely on script writers as much![/b]
Reality TV show episodes are actually wholly reliant on scripts.

Agora77
Maybe then Americans will stop being such fucking retards.
(Political Statement: Fuck Karl Marx.)
Fuck you too.

If you have a problem with "Americans" - as if they were a united, one-dimensional entity - watching this type of crap then maybe that shows you what tools revolutionary leftists have yet to use in the struggle to win over the hearts and minds of the average worker.

Restrict this "Individualist" anarchist.

....oh wait. :(

Cheung Mo
9th November 2007, 23:40
ugh...This is as bad as those millionaire players vs. billionaire owner disputes that go on in pro-sports: The striking "workers" shit on the real working class when they take action and yet we're still expected to be sympathetic. To be honest, I went for the owners in the NHL strike because I thought that while both sides consisted of greedy right-wing fucks who didn't deserve my sympathy, at least the management victory has created a more competitive leaguee. The players are still making millions of dollars, most of them vote for Tories and Republicans, so fuck them anyways.

Nothing Human Is Alien
10th November 2007, 02:29
Care to tell us why television writers aren't workers?

And since when do political outlooks override class? Are you going to write off all workers who have false consciousness?

Red October
10th November 2007, 03:11
Screenwriters make a hell of a lot less than pro athletes, and they are certainly proletarian. Think about it: they write scripts, the bourgeois take the scripts and produce TV shows out of them, then they keep the surplus value generated by those scripts. True, these writers may not be revolutionary or fully class conscious, but neither are most strikes in America. I guess we shouldn't support those either?