Bounty Hunter Racist Tirade

[blackstone]

I heard noone mentioning the Bounty Hunter and his recent tirade.

"I'm not taking a chance...not because she's black but because we use the word n---er sometimes here. I'm not going to take any chance ever in life of losing everything I've worked for 30 years because some drunken n---er heard us say n---er and turned us into the Enquirer magazine...I'm not taking that chance at all never in life. Never..."

Those were the words of Duane Chapman , star of the hit show Dog the Bounty Hunter which is showcased on A&E. A&E has suspended production on its hit reality series Dog the Bounty Hunter in light of these remarks which were made during a phone conversation with his son Tucker, a recording of which was duly posted online by the National Enquirer.

The actual clip can be listened to on my blog, linked below

http://power-2-people.blogspot.com/2007/11...t-language.html (http://power-2-people.blogspot.com/2007/11/bounty-hunters-racist-language.html)

[MarxSchmarx]

Can someone please tell me why that asshole isn't rotting in a Mexican jail?

[synthesis]

I mean, the dude did use to rob shit with biker gangs, who are usually pretty racist. What's that expression about tigers and their stripes?

[RedAnarchist]

Just another dumb shit who should never have been put in the public eye at all.

[blackstone]

Check out the blog comments, people posted some interesting things.


Blackstone,
It is unfortunate that it takes this much to bring down such an obvious case nasty, brutish, racist, thugs such as the dog. It was obvious to me at the start of the show that this was an extention and expansion of anti-black, anti-poor hatred showcased for years on the show "Cops". The racist facination of seeing Blacks, Latinos, and the white poor victimized and beaten by the coercive racist capitalist state is part of the enormous rightward shift in consciousness since at least the 1980's which includes increased racist attacks on Blacks, immigrtants and the poor.

[letsgetfree]

"I thought that I was cool enough in the black world to be able to use that word as a brother to a brother. I’m not. I didn’t really know until three or four days ago what that meant to black people. There’s a special connection that I thought I had between me and black America. And I used to say, ‘I’m black, too.’”
“In other words, my whole life I’ve been called a half-breed, a convict, king of the trailer trash, this and that…so when I stood there and said, ‘I kind of know what you feel like, because I’ve been there, too,’ that I felt that I could embrace and like, as brothers…say the word. I now learned I’m not black at all, and I never did it out of hate. This sounds so stupid. I always did it out of love. Other white guys would be like, ‘Boy, who does Dog think he is? Dog can say that.’ And black guys would be with me and walk with me and respect me. So, I went too far with that.” - dog


lol @ this excuse

[blackstone]

I know, i just posted that on my blog comments.

I don't know who told him to use that excuse, but he diggin himself into a deeper hole.

[Zurdito]

Bounty Hunters? Scum. The movie "Domino" glorified those vultures. Fuck 'em, lumpens.

[RGacky3]

Should'nt be a big deal, who cares if he is or is'nt a racist, not a big deal, why do people get so angry over this stuff?

[rouchambeau]

Should'nt be a big deal, who cares if he is or is'nt a racist, not a big deal, why do people get so angry over this stuff?
SUPER TRUTHY NEWS FLASH: RACISM NO LONGER BIG DEAL

[Comrade Rage]

Originally posted by [email protected] 02, 2007 04:52 pm
http://power-2-people.blogspot.com/2007/11...t-language.html (http://power-2-people.blogspot.com/2007/11/bounty-hunters-racist-language.html)
Not only was that diarrhea of the mouth racist, it was unbelievably stupid as well. He used the 'N' word a whole lot of times, and he was talking (at the same time) about how he would lose his show if people heard him say it. :rolleyes:

Where was this audio picked up from? It sounds like he was being interviewed on a radio station.

[Everyday Anarchy]

I believe he was on the phone with his son and his son recorded it.

[Everyday Anarchy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10, 2007 01:36 pm

Should'nt be a big deal, who cares if he is or is'nt a racist, not a big deal, why do people get so angry over this stuff?
SUPER TRUTHY NEWS FLASH: RACISM NO LONGER BIG DEAL
I don't think that's what he meant.
Average people make much worse comments all of the time and nobody gives a shit. Then somebody like Dog says some shit and everyone is in an uproar. It's this whole celebrity idolatry bullshit.

People hardly confront their friends or family when they make racist comments, some even go along with it.



Stopping racism starts at home.

[PigmerikanMao]

Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2007 06:59 am
Can someone please tell me why that asshole isn't rotting in a Mexican jail?
He's an American- he can get away with shit like that.
edit:He's fairly rich too.

[Axel1917]

Why am I not surprised by this? This crap is common in police forces, so why not in bounty hunting thugs?

[rouchambeau]

I don't think that's what he meant.
I'll let RGacky3 backtrack for himself, thanks.

Average people make much worse comments all of the time and nobody gives a shit. Then somebody like Dog says some shit and everyone is in an uproar. It's this whole celebrity idolatry bullshit.

People hardly confront their friends or family when they make racist comments, some even go along with it.
I don't really see what relevance this has to anything we're discussing. How little racism is addressed has nothing to do with the fact that people are addressing it in this particular case.


Stopping racism starts at home.
Clever.

[bootleg42]

It's also sickening how many U.S. suburbian middle class white folks are defending him. Fuck them.

This is racism no doubt. Fuck this guy. I also would imagine that many U.S. cops feel the same and I would not be shocked.

[Everyday Anarchy]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 12:18 am
I don't really see what relevance this has to anything we're discussing. How little racism is addressed has nothing to do with the fact that people are addressing it in this particular case.
I was just making a point that nobody seems to care about even worse racist remarks when their friends or family say them, but the second any celebrity says them, everyone is up in arms. It comes from this whole celebrity fetishism where we love to see them rise and fall.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that people should let celebrities make racist comments. I'm just trying to say that if people want to get angry over a racist celebrity, it should be their responsibility to confront racist friends and family members as well.

[Ander]

How the hell does this not matter? We should focus on combating racism wherever it is present, be it among family or among big-shot celebrities who think they can say what they want and then hide behind the "pressures of Hollywood." The difference is that celebrities have much more influence and are heard by a far greater number of people than a racist uncle or friend. The influence of stars cannot be denied - especially among young people. I'm sure there are tons of teenage boys who think this Dog is a super-cool guy.

Fortunately, this kind of racist garbage tends to seriously tarnish a celebrity's reputation and career (as can be seen with Michael Richards, Mel Gibson, etc.) Hopefully this moron will lose his show.

[Zurdito]

I think all Rgacky3 meant is "who cares about DTBH i?" That's not the same as saying that he doesn;t care about racism as a social phenomenon. Maybe he is just saying that the racism of this particular nobody shouldn't be paid any special attention (and don't anyone say we pay all racism the same attention, because if we did we would have a thread about every post made on Stormfront, or at least every new member), and that it may be better to ignore these talentless cretins instead. I mean DTBH is nothing to us really, is he? He's part of a social cancer, true, but individually is anyone shocked at the pronouncements of one more racist dick out there? I mean, it's not like he is leading a movement or in government or business etc., he's just another lumpen.

[blackstone]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2007 05:02 pm
I think all Rgacky3 meant is "who cares about DTBH i?" That's not the same as saying that he doesn;t care about racism as a social phenomenon. Maybe he is just saying that the racism of this particular nobody shouldn't be paid any special attention (and don't anyone say we pay all racism the same attention, because if we did we would have a thread about every post made on Stormfront, or at least every new member), and that it may be better to ignore these talentless cretins instead. I mean DTBH is nothing to us really, is he? He's part of a social cancer, true, but individually is anyone shocked at the pronouncements of one more racist dick out there? I mean, it's not like he is leading a movement or in government or business etc., he's just another lumpen.
Just another lumpen?How many lumpens have their own television show watched by millions?

[Red Menace]

It was a private phone call though. That by no means excuses it, but there should be some small level of understanding for it. I don't think it really proves he's racist. People say stupid shit all the time privately, that may be racist, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's racist. But who knows, he probably is racist. And for that he should be punished accordingly. But I'm just saying don't be too quick too judge

Besides the phone call was recorded in the first place for profit. The girlfriend said she would sue *for profit of course*. So by really furthering the baseless claim that he is in fact racist, its only going to encourage behavior like that, that talk that was once private, can be made public, for a fucking profit. However if they truely are racist, and it can be proven, then im for it, their lives deserve to be ruined.

[rouchambeau]

and that it may be better to ignore these talentless cretins instead. I mean DTBH is nothing to us really, is he?

That's an interesting solution: ignore a problem, and it will go away.

Why are you defending RGacky3 anyway?


is anyone shocked at the pronouncements of one more racist dick out there? I mean, it's not like he is leading a movement or in government or business etc., he's just another lumpen.
His words have been made public. There has to be some public contempt to let people know that the things he said are not okay.



I don't think it really proves he's racist. People say stupid shit all the time privately, that may be racist, but it doesn't necessarily mean he's racist.
You're not being funny.


However if they truely are racist, and it can be proven, then im for it, their lives deserve to be ruined.
In what possible world could this guy's words not have been racist?

[Zurdito]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15, 2007 08:27 pm
That's an interesting solution: ignore a problem, and it will go away.

In the case of celebrities: YES.

[Raisa]

TO me people who take jobs like that are peices of shit.

Hes an uneducated fuck who chases after people who didnt show up at their trial for the masta. I hope the police give him a cookie for all his good work. It tastes better then a diploma anyway.

[RGacky3]

That's an interesting solution: ignore a problem, and it will go away.

Why are you defending RGacky3 anyway?

Wheres the problem? He made a racist comment? Wheres the problem? He's an asshole, thats it, no problem, if he acts on it then we have a problem.

He's not defending me, he's defending clearheadedness, and reasonableness.


His words have been made public. There has to be some public contempt to let people know that the things he said are not okay.

Why? He can say whatever he wants.


How the hell does this not matter? We should focus on combating racism wherever it is present, be it among family or among big-shot celebrities who think they can say what they want and then hide behind the "pressures of Hollywood." The difference is that celebrities have much more influence and are heard by a far greater number of people than a racist uncle or friend. The influence of stars cannot be denied - especially among young people. I'm sure there are tons of teenage boys who think this Dog is a super-cool guy.

Generally due to the Media, racist comments, even small ones, even jokes, even ones given just out of pure anger at an individual (which is'nt really racism, its just lashing out with whatever you can) ruins peoples carears, are blown way out of preportion, and are treated like giant emergancies, when really they are only people saying stupid stuff.


I'll let RGacky3 backtrack for himself, thanks.


He pretty much hit it on the nail, its not hard to figure out what i meant :P, I was'nt writing in metaphors.



Really, what is the big deal, even if he was a racist, who cares, he's not making policy, he has no real auhority, maybe people who work for him have something to worry about, but other than that it really does'nt matter.

[Dr.Pepper]

I never liked his show anyway; so it will be no loss to me when/if it disappears. "Dog" always reminded me of white trash, a bucket of trash that was left on the curb far too long. I never liked how he cried and got into this whole BS-fake morality with the people he captured and cuffed:


"You can do it baby girl [he cries] there is no need to be selling crack anymore, so do your time now [sniff sniff, wipes eyes] and get back out here making an honest living"

STFU Dog, you know nothing about honest livings. People sell crack because they have no other way to live, and unlike you, they can't turn to TV and capture their crack dealers for a TV show.

About the racist comment of his: I agree, it was racist. I don't think saying nigger is a good idea. But he did say it in a place where he thought it to be private, this may not be 100% excusable, but how many times have any of us said things in private where we know we would never have said that in public?

[RevSouth]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26, 2007 05:48 pm
STFU Dog, you know nothing about honest livings. People sell crack because they have no other way to live, and unlike you, they can't turn to TV and capture their crack dealers for a TV show.

About the racist comment of his: I agree, it was racist. I don't think saying nigger is a good idea. But he did say it in a place where he thought it to be private, this may not be 100% excusable, but how many times have any of us said things in private where we know we would never have said that in public?
I don't know if selling crack (or heroin, for that matter) is ever morally excusable. It's one thing to sell weed, but entirely another to sell truly hard stuff like that. That being said, people's circumstances do push them to do things, but you always have a certain amount of control over your own life.

Also, saying something in private doesn't excuse him. A closet racist is a racist, never the less.

Dog also dressed like a dumbass.

[Comrade Rage]

Originally posted by RevSouth+--> (RevSouth)I don't know if selling crack (or heroin, for that matter) is ever morally excusable.[/b]
It isn't. Crack was the thing that ripped the innercity apart and made people desperate.

Living in the innercity wasn't a picnic before, but ask any old-timer and he'll tell you that it was crack that really pushed these areas over the edge.

Anyone who sells crack is shitting his/her own sandbox-period. Pretty much everyone who does that is a hardcore lumpen to begin with.


Dr. Pepper
I agree, it was racist. I don't think saying nigger is a good idea. But he did say it in a place where he thought it to be private, this may not be 100% excusable
You're right-it's 0% excusable.

Don't get me wrong, everyone is entitled to their privacy, but if you do/say something racist when no one is watching--it's still racist.

Saying that it was NOT racist is like saying 'when trees fall, and no one is there to hear them, they don't make a sound'.

[Dr.Pepper]

The point was he was caught saying something racist in a method that arguably wasn't right -- ie taping a private conversation.

As long as a human being isn't racist in public I don't really care if they are racist at home, say racist things at home, or think racist things inside their heads.

You can't control the private worlds & minds of others.

Keep it out of sight, out of earshot, out of our books & papers, and I am alright with that.

And with all that said, sure the better human & the better world is where people don't have those thoughts or say those things, public or private, but it will never ever happen. The next best thing is to keep it out of public eye.

[Jazzratt]

Out of sight out of mind? Spare me that bullshit.

[Dr.Pepper]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27, 2007 12:42 pm
Out of sight out of mind? Spare me that bullshit.
Jazz:

1) Are you in control of "out of sight out of mind" behaviors?

2) Do you know to what extent this is going on?

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by Dr.Pepper+November 27, 2007 02:39 pm--> (Dr.Pepper @ November 27, 2007 02:39 pm)
[email protected] 27, 2007 12:42 pm
Out of sight out of mind? Spare me that bullshit.
Jazz:

1) Are you in control of "out of sight out of mind" behaviors?

2) Do you know to what extent this is going on? [/b]
Clearly you've never encountered the phrase "out of sight out of mind". It basically implies that someone's approach to an issue is that if they don't see it then it doesn't exist. This is bollocks.

If someone is racist and this fact comes to light then it must be challenged, even if someone said something racist in private their world-view must be opposed.

As neither you or I cannot read minds so obviously we can't stop people from thinking racist things but if they say, write or otherwise communicate a racist sentiment then it is, naturally, our duty as members of a progressive leftist movement to challenge and condemn them. If someone doesn't have the courage to stand beside their opinions then they shouldn't fucking voice them, should they?

[Black Dagger]

Exactly.

Furthermore, if someone is privately racist - chances are they will act on this belief in society proper as well - indeed it's hopelessly naive to think that peoples prejudiced attitudes remain quarantined to the 'private sphere'.

[Vanguard1917]

Originally posted by bleeding gums [email protected] 27, 2007 03:24 pm
Exactly.

Furthermore, if someone is privately racist - chances are they will act on this belief in society proper as well - indeed it's hopelessly naive to think that peoples prejudiced attitudes remain quarantined to the 'private sphere'.
And they should be condemned if and when they do act on it. But words do not equal actions, and people should be held accountable for their actions.

What we've been seeing in recent times is the redefinition of racism. 'Racism' nowadays seems to refer less to the systemic repression of certain people by those in power, and more to 'incorrect behaviour' on the part of individuals and the masses in general.

Hence we have the official 'anti-racism' which has been adopted by Western governments, media, schools, workplaces, universities, etc. This 'anti-racism' is less about challenging actual racism (i.e. a top-down phenomenon with its roots in the capitalist state), and more about policing what ordinary people say. It is thus a stick with which to beat the apparently 'vulgar' and 'illiterate' masses for their misbehaviour, rather than a radical programme to fight actual racism.

I don't know who this 'Bounty Hunter' is, but i gather that he's not a very important person. I don't much like him saying 'nigger', but there are millions of things that i have a personal dislike for. I don't have to ever see this person or be friends with him. He has no clout in society, and even if he did, i would like him to be held accountable for his actions - not for what he says to his son on the phone.

Racism needs to refer to so much more than using bad words. Otherwise, just like the official 'anti-racists' in government, we end up trivialising racism.

[RGacky3]

If someone is racist and this fact comes to light then it must be challenged, even if someone said something racist in private their world-view must be opposed.

If they arn't hurting anyone why must they be opposed?


If someone doesn't have the courage to stand beside their opinions then they shouldn't fucking voice them, should they?

I don't think he' a racist, saying something racist out of anger could be akin to telling your brother you wish he was dead when he pisses you off.

[rouchambeau]

I don't think he' a racist
Just stop it. Stop.

[Dr.Pepper]

If someone is racist and this fact comes to light then it must be challenged


I agree with you: if the racist comes to public light it must be challenged.



even if someone said something racist in private their world-view must be opposed.


And how do you imagine you'll manage that?

[Jazzratt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27, 2007 09:08 pm

even if someone said something racist in private their world-view must be opposed.


And how do you imagine you'll manage that?
Clearly no one can do it with everyone who is privately racist. But if someone said something to you, in private, that was racist would you not challenge them?

[Dr.Pepper]

Absolutely I would challenge them, my own personal standards obligate me to do so. Sadly many people will die racist as it is something they have cultivated their entire lives. I have challenged such people about the word "nigger" and "gook" and my words meant nothing to them: blacks are niggers & asians are gooks. It is really sad, and the private worlds and private words of racists will always continue.

[toater]

have a bit of sympathy for the bloke, he has to shag that wife of his. How he manages to get the horn looking at that, I'll never know.

Dog, I salute you for your bravery, thanks for jumping on that grenade.

[Dr.Pepper]

^^

I agree!