What moral attitude should we take toward Globalis

[coberst]

What moral attitude should we take toward Globalism?

From the American workers view the positive side of Globalism is that many workers worldwide in very poor countries will experience a significant increase in their standard of living because the manufacturing of certain products that were manufactured in America are manufactured in their country.

From the American workers view the negative side of Globalism is that the standard of living of many Americans will decline significantly because of the work that has gone to poor countries.

From the American capital owning and financial brokerage view Globalism is the best thing since sliced bread.

What moral judgment should all Americans take toward Globalism? I have no answers to this very difficult question. This is the type of question that leads some people, like me, to duck their moral principles.

I suspect that Americans with capital will reap great advantage from Globalism but working Americans will be net losers. The workers and the capital owning citizens in poor countries will be large net winners.

[coberst]

I suspect that globalization will dramatically improve the standard of living world wide. But that will mean that we will eat our planet much faster than we do now. What are our chances of civilization lasting another 200 years under such pressure?

[Dimentio]

Nil unless we employ a new form of socio-economic system (http://en.technocracynet.eu)

[lvleph]

The biggest problem I see with Globalization is that Capitalists are using it to exploit workers that are not organized and are not protected by the law. This allows the capitalist to offer very low wages and sell at high prices.

[The Feral Underclass]

Why do you we need to take a moral position on it?

[lvleph]

Originally posted by The Anarchist [email protected] 02, 2007 02:44 pm
Why do you we need to take a moral position on it?
I think the op actually meant ethical. Morals are suppose to be universal, and is the reason I don't believe in morality. So if we are to take a position after discussion it is not really a moral position and is instead an ethical position.

[Lynx]

How convenient that the capitalist version of globalism does not include the free movement of workers.

[Comrade Rage]

One effect of globalism that is not given enough attention is that America will increase it's support of Pinochet-style leaders throughout the world.

[Pawn Power]

From the American workers view the positive side of Globalism is that many workers worldwide in very poor countries will experience a significant increase in their standard of living because the manufacturing of certain products that were manufactured in America are manufactured in their country.

This is false. modern Globalism (or more often called Globalization), in the economic sense that you are talking about has resulted in increased poverty and oppression.

The spread of free markers and privatization has circulated human rights abuses to all people and has given corporations increase control of our lives.

The products that the poor are manufacturing often do not go to them and do not necessarily increase standards of living. Poverty is increasing and the gap between the rich and the poor is growing.

[lvleph]

Originally posted by Pawn [email protected] 02, 2007 05:40 pm

From the American workers view the positive side of Globalism is that many workers worldwide in very poor countries will experience a significant increase in their standard of living because the manufacturing of certain products that were manufactured in America are manufactured in their country.

This is false. modern Globalism (or more often called Globalization), in the economic sense that you are talking about has resulted in increased poverty and oppression.

The spread of free markers and privatization has circulated human rights abuses to all people and has given corporations increase control of our lives.

The products that the poor are manufacturing often do not go to them and do not necessarily increase standards of living. Poverty is increasing and the gap between the rich and the poor is growing.
That is what I was saying, but you were much more eloquent (<-had to make sure that was the correct word, the only word I could think of lol).

[coberst]

Originally posted by Pawn [email protected] 02, 2007 05:40 pm

From the American workers view the positive side of Globalism is that many workers worldwide in very poor countries will experience a significant increase in their standard of living because the manufacturing of certain products that were manufactured in America are manufactured in their country.

This is false. modern Globalism (or more often called Globalization), in the economic sense that you are talking about has resulted in increased poverty and oppression.

The spread of free markers and privatization has circulated human rights abuses to all people and has given corporations increase control of our lives.

The products that the poor are manufacturing often do not go to them and do not necessarily increase standards of living. Poverty is increasing and the gap between the rich and the poor is growing.
I think that the gap between rich and poor is widening and that globalization will increase the gap. However, it appears to me that many poor people around the globe have jobs that before were not there.

[lvleph]

Originally posted by coberst+November 02, 2007 06:46 pm--> (coberst @ November 02, 2007 06:46 pm)
Pawn [email protected] 02, 2007 05:40 pm

From the American workers view the positive side of Globalism is that many workers worldwide in very poor countries will experience a significant increase in their standard of living because the manufacturing of certain products that were manufactured in America are manufactured in their country.

This is false. modern Globalism (or more often called Globalization), in the economic sense that you are talking about has resulted in increased poverty and oppression.

The spread of free markers and privatization has circulated human rights abuses to all people and has given corporations increase control of our lives.

The products that the poor are manufacturing often do not go to them and do not necessarily increase standards of living. Poverty is increasing and the gap between the rich and the poor is growing.
I think that the gap between rich and poor is widening and that globalization will increase the gap. However, it appears to me that many poor people around the globe have jobs that before were not there. [/b]
Well, NAFTA is part of a move towards globilization. It was tauted as a great thing for Mexico, but since it was signed it has not been that beneficial to Mexico.

[Pawn Power]

Originally posted by coberst+November 02, 2007 01:46 pm--> (coberst @ November 02, 2007 01:46 pm)
Pawn [email protected] 02, 2007 05:40 pm

From the American workers view the positive side of Globalism is that many workers worldwide in very poor countries will experience a significant increase in their standard of living because the manufacturing of certain products that were manufactured in America are manufactured in their country.

This is false. modern Globalism (or more often called Globalization), in the economic sense that you are talking about has resulted in increased poverty and oppression.

The spread of free markers and privatization has circulated human rights abuses to all people and has given corporations increase control of our lives.

The products that the poor are manufacturing often do not go to them and do not necessarily increase standards of living. Poverty is increasing and the gap between the rich and the poor is growing.
I think that the gap between rich and poor is widening and that globalization will increase the gap. However, it appears to me that many poor people around the globe have jobs that before were not there. [/b]
Then what did they do?

Of course many did not have wage-labor employment in industry however they did "labor." It is telling that these jobs the have been brought to "the poor" by globilization, “that before were not there," have not brought them out of poverty but has furthered exploitation. What is being brought to “the poor” that you are speaking of is wage labor jobs under a capitalist free market system, a system which job security is absent and which labor is done by the clock.