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Jocke
24th October 2007, 23:39
Okay this feels stupid but..

I have been feeling a lil' weird for quite a while now.. or maybe weird is not the right word.. but I usually wear clothing that costs alot of money.. like hoodies for 150£ and levis / lee / diesel jeans..

I must say that I'm getting more interested in politics and learning more and more. Communism / marxism is something I really find "nice" and interesting. I know pretty much about el comandante, lenin and fidel..

Anyway my question to u guys is. Can i call myself a marxist even if I wear expensive clothes? Is there anyone of u guys that is as well?

Dr Mindbender
24th October 2007, 23:42
Originally posted by [email protected] 24, 2007 10:39 pm
Okay this feels stupid but..

I have been feeling a lil' weird for quite a while now.. or maybe weird is not the right word.. but I usually wear clothing that costs alot of money.. like hoodies for 150£ and levis / lee / diesel jeans..

I must say that I'm getting more interested in politics and learning more and more. Communism / marxism is something I really find "nice" and interesting. I know pretty much about el comandante, lenin and fidel..

Anyway my question to u guys is. Can i call myself a marxist even if I wear expensive clothes? Is there anyone of u guys that is as well?
There wont be any such thing as 'expensive' under communism because the spoils of societies labours will be appropriated in terms of your contribution, (simply put an equal share or none at all) not because of how much money you have, or some other arbitrary concept.

Marsella
24th October 2007, 23:44
The expense of your clothes doesn't determine whether you can call yourself a Marxist.

You don't have to be wearing a potato sack to fulfil the 'requirement.'

We don't care what you spend your money on, as long as it doesn't involve the exploitation of others.

I don't ware fancy clothes simply because I don't see the point of paying a lot of money for a name tag.


Communism / marxism is something I really find "nice" and interesting.

This worries me more than your clothing style!

Dr Mindbender
24th October 2007, 23:52
Originally posted by [email protected] 24, 2007 10:44 pm
The expense of your clothes doesn't determine whether you can call yourself a Marxist.

You don't have to be wearing a potato sack to fulfil the 'requirement.'

We don't care what you spend your money on, as long as it doesn't involve the exploitation of others.

I don't ware fancy clothes simply because I don't see the point of paying a lot of money for a name tag.


Communism / marxism is something I really find "nice" and interesting.

This worries me more than your clothing style!
at least he didnt say he finds it 'awful' or 'terrible' which would have been much less encouraging.

Jocke, if you're interested in the politics of designer labels, I'd strongly recommend reading Naomi Klein's 'No Logo'.

Marsella
24th October 2007, 23:57
at least he didnt say he finds it 'awful' or 'terrible' which would have been much less encouraging.

I wasn't attacking, I just found it worrying that someone described Marxism as 'nice!' :P

spartan
24th October 2007, 23:57
Clothes do not determine your Politics!

Well if your wearing a Skrewdriver T-shirt then maybe it does determine your Politics but you know what i mean.

The fact is though i, like Martov, dont wear expensive clothing as i do not see the point in paying ridiculous amounts of (Hopefully) hard earned money on a name!

But everyone is different and this is really your choice but just remember that it is more often than not what you are wearing that matters Politically but where you stand on certain issues etc.

Comrade Nadezhda
25th October 2007, 00:36
your clothes do not determine whether or not your are marxist. that is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned.

I don't wear expensive clothes because I don't want to pay more than I have to. I pretty much just pay the minimum for everything, because I work hard and I don't want to give up the majority of my paycheck for the purpose of expensive clothes-- when I could put the money to better use. it's your money, do what you want with it-- personally I don't buy expensive items because I don't see the need, money doesn't grow on trees and lately it is hard to come by-- I haven't bought too many "new" clothes in years. I pretty much just buy what I need come necessity. I don't see it to be important at least not to that extent.

I much more care about your political viewpoints than the clothes you are wearing, as I'm sure most of the comrades here would be.

AAFCE
25th October 2007, 00:37
:D Nope, I wouldnt think so, but If you can afford it, and you want to spend big $$$, then go for it I guess, but I wouldnt rub it in the faces of people who can barely make the house payment each month.

I myself own just a few items of clothing all of which was given to me, secondhand <_<

RedStaredRevolution
25th October 2007, 01:14
Your clothes have nothing to do with your politics (unless of course your wearing clothes that have political images or slogans on them). But as for the price of your clothes it doesnt really make a difference. Its more of a personal choice then a politcal one and it probably doesnt matter to most people what you spend your money on.

I personally dont see the point of buying expensive, name brand clothes when cheaper ones are almost exactly the same, but hey, thats just me. You can spend your money however you want (as long as its not to exploit others) and you can still be a communist.

Faux Real
25th October 2007, 01:19
Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 24, 2007 04:36 pm
your clothes do not determine whether or not your are marxist. that is irrelevant as far as I&#39;m concerned.

I don&#39;t wear expensive clothes because I don&#39;t want to pay more than I have to. I pretty much just pay the minimum for everything, because I work hard and I don&#39;t want to give up the majority of my paycheck for the purpose of expensive clothes-- when I could put the money to better use. it&#39;s your money, do what you want with it-- personally I don&#39;t buy expensive items because I don&#39;t see the need, money doesn&#39;t grow on trees and lately it is hard to come by-- I haven&#39;t bought too many "new" clothes in years. I pretty much just buy what I need come necessity. I don&#39;t see it to be important at least not to that extent.

I much more care about your political viewpoints than the clothes you are wearing, as I&#39;m sure most of the comrades here would be.
^^Ditto.

The most extreme thing I try to do is match up my wardrobe with all red-black-white, and maybe some greenish colours. My politics are a little more subtle that way. ;)

Is it necessary? No. It&#39;s just a small form of expression for me, though.

I don&#39;t see the material gain in buying expensive clothing, but if you have the spare change go for it.

Comrade Nadezhda
25th October 2007, 01:23
Originally posted by rev0lt+October 24, 2007 07:19 pm--> (rev0lt @ October 24, 2007 07:19 pm)
Comrade [email protected] 24, 2007 04:36 pm
your clothes do not determine whether or not your are marxist. that is irrelevant as far as I&#39;m concerned.

I don&#39;t wear expensive clothes because I don&#39;t want to pay more than I have to. I pretty much just pay the minimum for everything, because I work hard and I don&#39;t want to give up the majority of my paycheck for the purpose of expensive clothes-- when I could put the money to better use. it&#39;s your money, do what you want with it-- personally I don&#39;t buy expensive items because I don&#39;t see the need, money doesn&#39;t grow on trees and lately it is hard to come by-- I haven&#39;t bought too many "new" clothes in years. I pretty much just buy what I need come necessity. I don&#39;t see it to be important at least not to that extent.

I much more care about your political viewpoints than the clothes you are wearing, as I&#39;m sure most of the comrades here would be.
^^Ditto.

The most extreme thing I try to do is match up my wardrobe with all red-black-white, and maybe some greenish colours. My politics are a little more subtle that way. ;)

Is it necessary? No. It&#39;s just a small form of expression for me, though.

I don&#39;t see the material gain in buying expensive clothing, but if you have the spare change go for it. [/b]
I wear a coat like Lenin did. I posted in another thread in chit-chat in regard to this. I generally wear black and red and occasionally white (and i don&#39;t even wear jeans for the mostpart) but even with a certain preference I still buy cheap clothes if I have to buy them I haven&#39;t bought clothes in a while.

AAFCE
25th October 2007, 01:30
Originally posted by Comrade Nadezhda+October 24, 2007 06:23 pm--> (Comrade Nadezhda @ October 24, 2007 06:23 pm)
Originally posted by [email protected] 24, 2007 07:19 pm

Comrade [email protected] 24, 2007 04:36 pm
your clothes do not determine whether or not your are marxist. that is irrelevant as far as I&#39;m concerned.

I don&#39;t wear expensive clothes because I don&#39;t want to pay more than I have to. I pretty much just pay the minimum for everything, because I work hard and I don&#39;t want to give up the majority of my paycheck for the purpose of expensive clothes-- when I could put the money to better use. it&#39;s your money, do what you want with it-- personally I don&#39;t buy expensive items because I don&#39;t see the need, money doesn&#39;t grow on trees and lately it is hard to come by-- I haven&#39;t bought too many "new" clothes in years. I pretty much just buy what I need come necessity. I don&#39;t see it to be important at least not to that extent.

I much more care about your political viewpoints than the clothes you are wearing, as I&#39;m sure most of the comrades here would be.
^^Ditto.

The most extreme thing I try to do is match up my wardrobe with all red-black-white, and maybe some greenish colours. My politics are a little more subtle that way. ;)

Is it necessary? No. It&#39;s just a small form of expression for me, though.

I don&#39;t see the material gain in buying expensive clothing, but if you have the spare change go for it.
I wear a coat like Lenin did. I posted in another thread in chit-chat in regard to this. I generally wear black and red and occasionally white (and i don&#39;t even wear jeans for the mostpart) but even with a certain preference I still buy cheap clothes if I have to buy them I haven&#39;t bought clothes in a while. [/b]
I like the way Red and Black "flow" together, and I plan on wearing "outloud" my political views once I can find a nice rake and some trashbags..

Not sure if thats a good idea though, but I will stick with it :D

Comrade Rage
25th October 2007, 01:42
Originally posted by [email protected] 24, 2007 05:57 pm
Clothes do not determine your Politics&#33;

Thank You&#33; Some people I know think you can&#39;t dress the way you want if your politics are a certain way.

It&#39;s actually smarter to not wear your politics on your sleeve most of the time. That&#39;s what I&#39;m finding today.

AAFCE
25th October 2007, 02:00
Originally posted by COMRADE CRUM+October 24, 2007 06:42 pm--> (COMRADE CRUM @ October 24, 2007 06:42 pm)
[email protected] 24, 2007 05:57 pm
Clothes do not determine your Politics&#33;

Thank You&#33; Some people I know think you can&#39;t dress the way you want if your politics are a certain way.

It&#39;s actually smarter to not wear your politics on your sleeve most of the time. That&#39;s what I&#39;m finding today. [/b]
Even in your youth?

Comrade Rage
25th October 2007, 02:03
Even in your youth, in these times.

Especially in your youth--in some places: certain teacher&#39;s classes, police stations, etc.

AAFCE
25th October 2007, 02:06
Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 24, 2007 07:03 pm
Even in your youth, in these times.

Especially in your youth--in some places: certain teacher&#39;s classes, police stations, etc.
Meh, im homeschooled, but thanks for the info, *puts Soviet uniform back in the closet* :lol:

Comrade Rage
25th October 2007, 02:09
Originally posted by TheNewGuy+October 24, 2007 08:06 pm--> (TheNewGuy @ October 24, 2007 08:06 pm)
COMRADE [email protected] 24, 2007 07:03 pm
Even in your youth, in these times.

Especially in your youth--in some places: certain teacher&#39;s classes, police stations, etc.
Meh, im homeschooled, but thanks for the info, *puts Soviet uniform back in the closet* :lol: [/b]
:lol:
I wear 1 or 2 pins usually to signify my politics. Never wore any of them to work however.

Revolution Until Victory
25th October 2007, 02:19
I personally oppose wearing expensive clothes and aquiring expensive items since it makes you look bourgeoisie.

Dr Mindbender
25th October 2007, 03:11
where possible i buy from charity shops because 1- you&#39;re avoiding giving more extortionate sums of money to big companies, 2-its always far cheaper anyway and 3-you&#39;re helping a good cause.

Do they have charity clothes shops in other countries? :blink:

Schrödinger's Cat
25th October 2007, 03:20
I would just be sure to check on where you buy your clothing. It shouldn&#39;t be that big of a problem with more expensive clothing, but the idea of socialists wearing products made from sweat shops in Asia and East Europe doesn&#39;t settle in my stomach without causing some indigestion.

spartan
25th October 2007, 13:53
I would just be sure to check on where you buy your clothing. It shouldn&#39;t be that big of a problem with more expensive clothing, but the idea of socialists wearing products made from sweat shops in Asia and East Europe doesn&#39;t settle in my stomach without causing some indigestion.
If we stopped buying clothing made in sweat shops in Asia the kids working in the sweat shops will be out of a job and thus out of money&#33;

I know the money these kids get is horrendous but getting no money at all is far worse IMO.

Wanted Man
25th October 2007, 14:00
What is expensive? €150 jeans are still nothing to a €1000 suit. So who cares?

AAFCE
25th October 2007, 14:07
The "Average" person doesnt walk around in suits though.

Most people that I have seen in nice, expensive suits, are always business people who make good money anyways.

Wanted Man
25th October 2007, 14:11
Yeah, that&#39;s the whole point. Why worry about spending a few more dollars on casual clothes when there&#39;s businessmen up there wearing expensive suits? Let&#39;s rip those off their backs instead of feeling guilty for looking fashionable.

Robespierre2.0
25th October 2007, 14:55
Hay guys, I own an ipod. Can I still be a communist?

spartan
25th October 2007, 15:44
Hay guys, I own an ipod. Can I still be a communist?
No&#33;

Though you can be a Social Democrat if you really want to? :lol:

Comrade Nadezhda
25th October 2007, 16:04
I have never owned an Ipod.

I don&#39;t even want one.

There is no need.

It&#39;s one of those things people think they "need" but instead it is only "greed".

RGacky3
25th October 2007, 16:37
You wear whatever the hell you want, it has nothing to do with your ideology, but people will judge you by your clothes, everyone does it, even I do it, for example, I see a guy in scrubs I think "He&#39;s probably in the Medical field", I see a guy wearing a turtle necks sweater, pre-ripped and faded jeans and one of those beanie/cap things, I think, "This guys an asshole." :P, even though that guy could probably be the most down to earth, cool guy around.

AAFCE
25th October 2007, 16:46
^^^ Hahaha, nice.

I have my own truck.. but I have to sell it to buy Christmas stuff :o

I normally try (Read: do) not to judge people, but I think everyone does.

spartan
25th October 2007, 16:46
I see a guy wearing a turtle necks sweater, pre-ripped and faded jeans and one of those beanie/cap things, I think, "This guys an asshole." :P , even though that guy could probably be the most down to earth, cool guy around.
Highly unlikely :lol:

Schrödinger's Cat
25th October 2007, 20:39
Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 12:53 pm

I would just be sure to check on where you buy your clothing. It shouldn&#39;t be that big of a problem with more expensive clothing, but the idea of socialists wearing products made from sweat shops in Asia and East Europe doesn&#39;t settle in my stomach without causing some indigestion.
If we stopped buying clothing made in sweat shops in Asia the kids working in the sweat shops will be out of a job and thus out of money&#33;

I know the money these kids get is horrendous but getting no money at all is far worse IMO.
That&#39;s not necessarily true. Even if you take into consideration the economies of these countries where outsourcing is plentiful, the workers have to deal with pay and living conditions that are exceptionally poor. The corporations would still earn huge profits from outsourcing and paying &#036;1 a day, but instead they cut it down quarters.

Mind you, there are still sweat shops in America and East Europe.

Schrödinger's Cat
25th October 2007, 20:44
We all know us communists want to revert back to a world of scarcity and plows.


:rolleyes:

Guerrilla22
25th October 2007, 20:49
Here you can get levi&#39;s for 25 bucks a pair, so they&#39;re considerably cheaper than most other jeans.

RGacky3
25th October 2007, 22:53
Levis are fine, nothing wrong with wearing nice quality jeans.

BUT, if your a guy, and you wear Ugs and live in Socal, your an utter dick, and if you go to the gym like that, I don&#39;t even know what to say.

Ultra-Violence
25th October 2007, 23:43
BUT, if your a guy, and you wear Ugs and live in Socal, your an utter dick, and if you go to the gym like that, I don&#39;t even know what to say.


LMFAO&#33; :lol: :lol:

AAFCE
25th October 2007, 23:48
Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 03:53 pm
Levis are fine, nothing wrong with wearing nice quality jeans.

BUT, if your a guy, and you wear Ugs and live in Socal, your an utter dick, and if you go to the gym like that, I don&#39;t even know what to say.
I would say, have a fun time getting robbed. :angry:

Exovedate
25th October 2007, 23:49
where possible i buy from charity shops because 1- you&#39;re avoiding giving more extortionate sums of money to big companies, 2-its always far cheaper anyway and 3-you&#39;re helping a good cause.

Do they have charity clothes shops in other countries? :blink:

I almost always buy second hand clothes because:
1) its a lot cheaper than buying brand name clothes (I see someone already mentioned it but I also would recommend Naomi Klein&#39;s No Logo)
2) you aren&#39;t consuming more resources than necessary (and therefore reducing the global carrying capacity - I realize that one shirt isn&#39;t going to affect that much, but add up every article of clothing you have ever bought and it makes a difference.)

The only exceptions I make are for shoes and underwear, because I find second hand running shoes or hiking boots are usually worn to shit, and underwear because I prefer not to share underpants.

EDIT: I realized some people out there might not know what carrying capacity is - "Generally it is the supportable population of an organism, given the food, habitat, water and other necessities available within an ecosystem." I say global carrying capacity because most countries these days aren&#39;t self sufficient. The point I&#39;m trying to make is when you buy stuff you don&#39;t need you are needlessly consuming resources that other people may require in order to just survive.

Comrade Rage
26th October 2007, 00:18
Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 07:53 am

I would just be sure to check on where you buy your clothing. It shouldn&#39;t be that big of a problem with more expensive clothing, but the idea of socialists wearing products made from sweat shops in Asia and East Europe doesn&#39;t settle in my stomach without causing some indigestion.
If we stopped buying clothing made in sweat shops in Asia the kids working in the sweat shops will be out of a job and thus out of money&#33;

I know the money these kids get is horrendous but getting no money at all is far worse IMO.
No offense, spartan, but that&#39;s the argument the capitalists use.

Comrade Nadezhda
26th October 2007, 00:38
Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 04:53 pm
Levis are fine, nothing wrong with wearing nice quality jeans.

BUT, if your a guy, and you wear Ugs and live in Socal, your an utter dick, and if you go to the gym like that, I don&#39;t even know what to say.
:lol:

i hate "girls" who are 20-25 years old (embarrassingly enough, many of them are my age) who can&#39;t live without makeup and the "perfect" lipstick color and have over 50 pairs of shoes in their closet which they don&#39;t even wear-- i own like 2 pairs of good shoes and i wear both of them-- i don&#39;t find it necessary to have excess clothing items that you&#39;ll never even wear them. it pisses me off when people waste money on shit they don&#39;t need. i don&#39;t think any woman needs more than a few pairs of jeans-- all which are expensive-- isnt 10 or less enough? i only have a few pairs of pants, like one pair of jeans, a few shirts, coats, etc-- i don&#39;t have excess clothing items and i don&#39;t see the need, so i don&#39;t really understand how people can go waste money on it. a lot of my perspective on this issue relates to my economic situation though-- children of bourgeois families have no understanding of what it&#39;s like-- they can&#39;t possibly. but i will say it pisses me off when guys/girls (i don&#39;t care about gender) wear trendy clothes and pay a lot of money for them and criticise others for not wearign the same clothes as them and carry an arrogant attitude in regards to material items-- like they are so much "better" than everyone else who doesn&#39;t have the money to spend on all of the shit they buy. thats the classic attitude of people coming from bourgeois families.

spartan
26th October 2007, 00:55
I think that women look much more beautiful without makeup personally as it is natural beauty not fake.

Comrade Rage
26th October 2007, 00:58
Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 06:55 pm
I think that women look much more beautiful without makeup personally as it is natural beauty not fake.
I&#39;d say MOST women fit that description. I would also say most women I encounter wear too much, and are waaaay too insecure about their looks.

spartan
26th October 2007, 01:08
I would also say most women I encounter wear too much, and are waaaay too insecure about their looks.
Agreed&#33;

Do you think that this is a by product of Capitalism as the cosmetics industry often uses scare tactics to make women think that they have to have a specific product to make them look "younger" or to stop the effects of "ageing"?

Comrade Rage
26th October 2007, 01:13
Yes.

Males, by the way are victimized in the same manner: &#39;you can&#39;t be attractive to women if you don&#39;t buy a Cadillac, or Grecian Formula... etc.&#39;

Capitalism is destroying normal attractions and replacing them with advertising/materialism&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

spartan
26th October 2007, 01:17
Males, by the way are victimized in the same manner: &#39;you can&#39;t be attractive to women if you don&#39;t buy a Cadillac, or Grecian Formula... etc.&#39;

Capitalism is destroying normal attractions and replacing them with advertising/materialism&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
I completly agree&#33;

The sooner we get rid of Capitalism the better as it is destroying our very nature.

Soon the Capitalist way of life will become standard or very normal and the chances of revolution will be endangered&#33; :(

This is why so many people, in our times, suffer from depression because they are being forced to live a life that they dont really want to live and are being forced to like things that deep down they dont really like but pretend to like to be "popular" :angry:

Comrade Rage
26th October 2007, 01:26
Originally posted by spartan+October 25, 2007 07:17 pm--> (spartan @ October 25, 2007 07:17 pm)
Males, by the way are victimized in the same manner: &#39;you can&#39;t be attractive to women if you don&#39;t buy a Cadillac, or Grecian Formula... etc.&#39;

Capitalism is destroying normal attractions and replacing them with advertising/materialism&#33;&#33;&#33; :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
I completly agree&#33;

The sooner we get rid of Capitalism the better as it is destroying our very nature.

Soon the Capitalist way of life will become standard or very normal and the chances of revolution will be endangered&#33; :( [/b]
Precisely. That&#39;s why I&#39;m looking to ramp up my participation in politics/events.


spartan

This why so many people suffer from depression because they are being forced to live a life they dont want to live and are being forced to like things that deep down they dont really like but pretend to like to be "popular" :angry:
Throughout middle school I was harassed and assaulted for being the &#39;poor kid&#39; who didn&#39;t wear &#39;name-brand clothes&#39;.

Teachers refused to intervene, and when I started to take matters into my own hands, I was punished and soon earned the rep as a &#39;troublemaker.&#39;


The experience has left me unable to participate in a traditional school setting. I never was able to return to public school and attend normally. I will be going to the area technical college to recieve my adult diploma next year.

I lived the daily depression and humiliation of classism/capitalism in school. I hope my kid, when I have one, will never have to.

spartan
26th October 2007, 01:31
The experience has left me unable to participate in a traditional school setting. I never was able to return to public school and attend normally.
I never even went to high school but that was because i just did not bother going to school as i never really liked it nor saw the point in it.

I eventually ended up going to an education centre for kids trying to get back into mainstream school but after 2 years of that i stopped going and was eventually given home education.

Looking back i dont think i would change anything i did as i would not be the person i am today and i ultimately like the person that i am today&#33;

Most of what i know today is down to self educating myself so if i ever appear to be a bit ignorant on certain topics you know why :lol:

Comrade Rage
26th October 2007, 01:37
Most of my education is from what my grandmother taught me, or what I learned myself, and I CONSISTENTLY outperformed my classmates.

Capitalist public schools are as unnecessary as they are flawed.

spartan
26th October 2007, 01:42
Capitalist public schools are as unnecessary as they are flawed.
Agreed&#33;

All they do is teach you how to read and write and numbers, the rules of your masters and how to prepare yourself for the world after you leave school and they do a pretty shit job of it if you ask me&#33;

Education is definately not what is was but instead a machine aimed at producing good little servants who are obediant and who have the "best" grades possible.

Education used to actually mean something before the Capitalist industrialisation* turned schools into the training camps that they are now.

*I am not a Primitivist as what i meant was the by product of the industrialisation of society was a lack of care for real education whose aim was to make people think for themselves and form their own ideas instead of following the sheep like you are taught today in Capitalist schools.

Comrade Rage
26th October 2007, 01:48
The entire purpose behind public school is that they prepare you for a life of being a faithful servant to capitalism--I suppose the popularity contest type of relations factors into that.

RedAnarchist
26th October 2007, 02:30
Its not how you live in the world, its how you see the world, and its how you want to change the world. I have an iPod, I havea PS2, I probably give money to big companies every day or at least many times a week, but I don&#39;t own the means of production. I&#39;m noone&#39;s boss.

Anarchism and Communism are working-class movements. We, as anarchists and communists, should not be trying to elevate ourselves to some deity-like status that we&#39;ll encourage the working-class to attempt to attain. If you, as a working class person, can afford something, it doesn&#39;t make you any less of a leftist. After all, we can&#39;t have our revolution until capitalism has reached its peak, so becoming like primitivists wont help any one of us.

Knight of Cydonia
26th October 2007, 06:14
don&#39;t arguing about wearing an expensive clothes, revolution doesn&#39;t concern about expensive clothes&#33; and even better if you all can make your own clothes, Sew It Yourself

Schrödinger's Cat
26th October 2007, 07:14
Clothing is part of being human. At least, the need to express yourself is. What a shame so much fabric is wasted on inferior goods. ;)

A_Ciarra
26th October 2007, 12:18
I myself think that we need to try our best to subvert the capitalist system by trying to "get off the supply grid" so to speak. Shopping for clothes in department stores simply can&#39;t be helped at times - but doing things like trying to buy from the Goodwill etc subverts the system.
:star:

Exovedate
26th October 2007, 12:36
The entire purpose behind public school is that they prepare you for a life of being a faithful servant to capitalism--I suppose the popularity contest type of relations factors into that.
The Education System Was Designed To Keep Us Uneducated And Docile (http://resistancetraining.wordpress.com/2007/01/30/the-educational-system-was-designed-to-keep-us-uneducated-and-docile/)
This essay says it all.

Wanted Man
26th October 2007, 17:45
Originally posted by spartan+October 25, 2007 04:46 pm--> (spartan @ October 25, 2007 04:46 pm)
I see a guy wearing a turtle necks sweater, pre-ripped and faded jeans and one of those beanie/cap things, I think, "This guys an asshole." :P , even though that guy could probably be the most down to earth, cool guy around.
Highly unlikely :lol: [/b]
I think we&#39;ve found something we can agree on&#33; :lol:


Originally posted by [email protected] 26, 2007 12:55 am
I think that women look much more beautiful without makeup personally as it is natural beauty not fake.
A bit of it looks good. Everything in moderation. ;)


[email protected] 26, 2007 12:18 pm
I myself think that we need to try our best to subvert the capitalist system by trying to "get off the supply grid" so to speak. Shopping for clothes in department stores simply can&#39;t be helped at times - but doing things like trying to buy from the Goodwill etc subverts the system.
:star:
Better yet: get expensive brand clothes... but shoplift them&#33; :lol:

Forward Union
26th October 2007, 18:23
I just wear "good" clothes.

More often than not, price is not connected with quality. It&#39;s a brand and Fashion thing.

AAFCE
26th October 2007, 18:26
Originally posted by William [email protected] 26, 2007 11:23 am
I just wear "good" clothes.

More often than not, price is not connected with quality. It&#39;s a brand and Fashion thing.
Agreed, we watched a video in class.

It was about Tommy Hilifiger, and it showed that they bought their pants from some company that alot of different Brands buy their clothing from, but then they sewed on the patch, and then priced the pants at &#036;80.

The pants they bought were like &#036;1 each or some shit, but they added the tag, and called it "cool" and raised the price..

:angry:

Schrödinger's Cat
26th October 2007, 19:12
Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 11:55 pm
I think that women look much more beautiful without makeup personally as it is natural beauty not fake.
Yes, but I can&#39;t complain about the eyeliner and maid outfit my girlfriend wore last night. :D

Libertarian Socialist Movement
28th October 2007, 23:05
i say no i myself only have a few bits of clothing, also and like many of the comrades here second hand for the most part, still your salary doesnt determine your political beleifs

AAFCE
28th October 2007, 23:18
Originally posted by Libertarian Socialist [email protected] 28, 2007 04:05 pm
i say no i myself only have a few bits of clothing, also and like many of the comrades here second hand for the most part, still your salary doesnt determine your political beleifs
Welcome.

Maid Outfit eh?


Nurse Outfits are always nice too

:wub:

Libertarian Socialist Movement
10th November 2007, 18:54
Originally posted by TheNewGuy+October 28, 2007 10:18 pm--> (TheNewGuy @ October 28, 2007 10:18 pm)
Libertarian Socialist [email protected] 28, 2007 04:05 pm
i say no i myself only have a few bits of clothing, also and like many of the comrades here second hand for the most part, still your salary doesnt determine your political beleifs
Welcome.

Maid Outfit eh?


Nurse Outfits are always nice too

:wub: [/b]
maybe on my girlfriend. lmao
i dont think she&#96;d go for that tho

Dimentio
10th November 2007, 19:28
I use to wear dressman clothes. I am 23, but is dressed like a 60-year old.

RedArmyFaction
14th November 2007, 17:47
I like this thread &#33;&#33; Good topic. I have yet to see a poorly dressed marxist. All the socialists i have seen wear very trendy clothes and i think appearence is important.

Hell, i wear designer labels such as Gucci, Burberry, Zara and Dolce and Gabbana. Style and image are important, comrades.

which doctor
14th November 2007, 19:23
Originally posted by [email protected] 14, 2007 12:47 pm
Hell, i wear designer labels such as Gucci, Burberry, Zara and Dolce and Gabbana. Style and image are important, comrades.
Are you being serious? Where do you find the money to afford all those labels?

RedArmyFaction
14th November 2007, 19:54
Originally posted by [email protected] 14, 2007 07:23 pm
Are you being serious? Where do you find the money to afford all those labels?
Obviously, i don&#39;t pay the full price. I get them cheap. Ebay is a good site for cheap designer stuff. I got a Burberry scarf from ebay for only £18.50................if you buy it from the Burberry website, it will cost about £100 &#33;&#33;

You know, Andreas Baader was into trendy clothes............although alot of RAF members didn&#39;t like it.

RedKnight
14th November 2007, 21:27
In third word countries in asia people, including children, labour under slave-like conditions. http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story...rticle_continue (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2200590,00.html#article_continue) http://www.wsws.org/news/1998/apr1998/mari-a02.shtml As consumers we must make consciencious descisions about the purchases we make. It&#39;s best to buy clothing from discount stores, like Value City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_City), when possible.