Gorbachev sets up Russia movement

[Ismail]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7054274.stm


The leader of the former Soviet Union, Mikhail Gorbachev, has founded a new political movement in Russia.

Mr Gorbachev told the founding congress of the Union of Social-Democrats that its mission was to fight against "negative tendencies" and corruption.

He said it supported President Vladimir Putin's efforts to reform Russia.

The new movement will not take part in general elections in December, which are expected to be won by the United Russia party, backed by Mr Putin.

I think it's pretty clear now (if it wasn't already) that Gorbachev is a joke.

[Die Neue Zeit]

Didn't his current "social-democratic" party disband? :lol:

[OneBrickOneVoice]

that's a shame. I think if the Soviet didn't suffer from the type of misleadership characterized by this pig, it would not have been dissolved

[Luís Henrique]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 04:27 pm
that's a shame. I think if the Soviet didn't suffer from the type of misleadership characterized by this pig, it would not have been dissolved
On the other hand, if the Soviet Union was not in its way to dissolution, it would not have suffered Gorbachev's leadership...

Luís Henrique

[Dimentio]

Limonov, Gorbachev, and Kasparov are the best allies of Putin. They are together turning the Russian opposition into a 0,05% movement.

[Kwisatz Haderach]

If Gorbachev's political views were not clear yet, they certainly are now.

Let no one claim that this man is or ever was a communist.

[bootleg42]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 05:26 pm
Limonov, Gorbachev, and Kasparov are the best allies of Putin. They are together turning the Russian opposition into a 0,05% movement.
The next best Russian opposition is the Communist Party of the Russian Federation but they're kind of Stalinist (maybe more for the nationalistic sense) and they put up millionaire candidates and well..........that's a contradiction by itself, a millionaire communist.

But I don't know any more about it. If anyone can tell me more about them, please do tell. Are they good??? Are they real or are they the same state capitalists as the people from the last days of the Soviet Union??

[Ismail]

They just seem like nationalists to me with some Communist rhetoric. If put in power they'll probably adopt some leftist reforms, but nothing Socialist.

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

the CPRF alligned itself with the National Bolsheviks in crusading against immigration...

If this social-democratic-malarky doesn't seek to oppose Putin, I can't see it having any forseeable use than farcically attempting to cast Gorbachev in to the public light to nurture his ego

[Karl Marx's Camel]

I think if the Soviet didn't suffer from the type of misleadership characterized by this pig, it would not have been dissolved

What an individualistic interpretation.

The USSR was rotten. And rotten things dissolve into earth. And that fact seems to suprise you?

Marxists on the other hand, had no illusions about the Soviet Union.

[Dimentio]

Everyone is whoring around with Limonov now. He has activists, and lots of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3Yvh-bSawA

Even the USA has begun supporting the nazbols.

And given the current political consensus in Russia, the national bolsheviks are viewed as libertarian socialists.

[Die Neue Zeit]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2007 06:07 am
Everyone is whoring around with Limonov now. He has activists, and lots of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3Yvh-bSawA

Even the USA has begun supporting the nazbols.

And given the current political consensus in Russia, the national bolsheviks are viewed as libertarian socialists.
Only because they're the only fascists around without anti-communist hysteria, no? :huh:

[Dimentio]

Originally posted by Hammer+October 21, 2007 05:57 pm--> (Hammer @ October 21, 2007 05:57 pm)
[email protected] 21, 2007 06:07 am
Everyone is whoring around with Limonov now. He has activists, and lots of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3Yvh-bSawA

Even the USA has begun supporting the nazbols.

And given the current political consensus in Russia, the national bolsheviks are viewed as libertarian socialists.
Only because they the only fascists around without anti-communist hysteria, no? :huh: [/b]
Because the other fascists would make the NSDAP look liberal maybe?

Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i0_IeU0zKI

[Entrails Konfetti]

Serpent, your kidding about Liminov having such a sway.

Anyone can see him and the Nazbols lack vision.

[Dimentio]

Yes, their liberalisation has led to splinters, but they have more money and influence now. Most likely, Limonov will ensure that the liberal opposition is digested. Most Russians dislike Limonov.