Condi & Dubya say they want Palestianian State now

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7044914.stm




Originally posted by BBC
The US secretary of state has said it is time for a Palestinian state to be founded, and that the US will put its full weight behind such efforts.

Condoleezza Rice said reaching a two-state solution was a priority for her and US President George Bush.

Ms Rice was speaking from the West Bank, where she has been trying to get agreement for a peace summit in the US.

Meanwhile the Israeli PM has hinted he may consider giving up Palestinian districts in Jerusalem in a peace deal.

Ehud Olmert told parliament "legitimate questions" could be asked about the Israeli annexing of outlying Palestinian neighbourhoods in East Jerusalem following the 1967 war.

Palestinians want East Jerusalem as the capital of a future state of Palestine, and the issue is one of the most sensitive and intractable of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Why the devil is the White House going after this all of a sudden? Have they finally decided to start combating terrorism effectively? Obviously their support for a Palestinian state will extend so far as establishing a tiny, divided nation, with little access to resources and economically dependent on Israel. The border will most likely be drawn along the fucking wall, which is a fraction of the West Bank, which is in itself a fraction of what the UN designated for Palestinians fifty years ago. I suppose they expect this to give them a good image internationally, for the presidential elections, and to try to deter terrorism without actually conceding anything important, just a few little bits of land the Palestinians have managed to save from Israeli domination over the past half century through "terrorism". What do you guys think?

[Faux Real]

The two-state solutions will never work, but social justice and equality isn't the goal of such Imperialist powers so whatever...

It's probably because they notice that the Palestinians are far too busy quarreling internally between the faction splits for the Palestinians to unite and regain anything of significance besides a portion of East Jerusalem back.

That's divide and conquer for you. -_-

[Mkultra]

A top United Nations expert says he will urge the UN to withdraw from the Middle East Quartet unless the group of international mediators addresses Palestinian human rights.

John Dugard told the BBC the US, EU, UN and Russia were failing to protect the Palestinians. He accused Israel of setting up checkpoints throughout the West Bank in an attempt to make the life of Palestinians as miserable as possible

[bootleg42]

Originally posted by [email protected] 16, 2007 12:43 am
A top United Nations expert says he will urge the UN to withdraw from the Middle East Quartet unless the group of international mediators addresses Palestinian human rights.

John Dugard told the BBC the US, EU, UN and Russia were failing to protect the Palestinians. He accused Israel of setting up checkpoints throughout the West Bank in an attempt to make the life of Palestinians as miserable as possible
Bourgeoisie theater stuff...please, we don't care much about that.

[bcbm]

From an Israeli perspective, this is a positive thing. It allows them to "release control" of the Palestinian territories they currently control and put all of the pressure on a new Palestinian government (of Hamas, I wonder?) to "end terrorism," which will of course not happen and give the IDF a decent excuse to do whatever they damn well please now that they're fighting an actual nation, not just being an occupying army.

And, of course, they will continue to control most of the land anyway in this Palestinian bantustan, since the network of roads criss-crossing the occupied territories will continue to be used and defended by Israel.

[piet11111]

this would also decimate the movements that demand a palestinian state.
never before could they offer so little to the palestinians and those sell-outs in the westbank would gladly accept whatever crumbs they can get.

[ComradeR]

It's simple, they want to create a easily controlled neo-colony in the west bank which strengthens the US imperial hold on the territory's by weakening the Palestinian resistance to the point that it is no longer a threat to Israel.

[CAPITALIST SLAVE]

The US imperialists have clearly decided that now is the time that they will gain most benefit from finalising a seperate state. I don't believe the US is particularly bothered where the line is drawn and who comes out with what, so as long as they can get there sticky paws on another piece of this world we live in by appearing to be the good guys. All we need now is an enter stage left from our national oxymoron " Tony Blair the middle east peace envoy". Fight global terrorism..... the US is the global terrorist.

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by black coffee black [email protected] 16, 2007 03:23 am


And, of course, they will continue to control most of the land anyway in this Palestinian bantustan, since the network of roads criss-crossing the occupied territories will continue to be used and defended by Israel.
yes, this has been a major concern of mine, the configuration of the palestinian terrorities is is an awful position to be considered geographically consistent. IMO Israel should at least give up some of the south in order to create a land bridge between Gaza and the West Bank. Plus, since israel control most of the coastline, it will be easy for them to monitor shipping coming into a nation of palestine which could have a negative effect on Palestine trade.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by Ulster Socialist+October 16, 2007 07:21 am--> (Ulster Socialist @ October 16, 2007 07:21 am)
black coffee black [email protected] 16, 2007 03:23 am


And, of course, they will continue to control most of the land anyway in this Palestinian bantustan, since the network of roads criss-crossing the occupied territories will continue to be used and defended by Israel.
yes, this has been a major concern of mine, the configuration of the palestinian terrorities is is an awful position to be considered geographically consistent. IMO Israel should at least give up some of the south in order to create a land bridge between Gaza and the West Bank. Plus, since israel control most of the coastline, it will be easy for them to monitor shipping coming into a nation of palestine which could have a negative effect on Palestine trade. [/b]
A corridor would be pointless... I'm talking about the Israeli-exclusive highways that go across the territories. They connect various settlements around the area while providing convenient control points.

[Guerrilla22]

This has been their position for some time. They always seem to bring it up when they're abroad, especially in Arab ****ries and Europeb ecause it sounds real nice, however the problem is that it is merely a position. It's one thing to talk about something, but quite another to actually force Isreali compliance, which the US obviously is in a position to do. So far there hasn't been any push at all from the Bush regime.