Imagine

[RedAnarchist]

Ulster Socialist's political cartoons inspired me to do this. I couldn't think of a political cartoon, so I found the lyrics to Lennon's song Imagine instead and made pictures in MS Paint to go with each verse. Its not the greatest thing ever created, but take a look.

http://aycu24.webshots.com/image/28543/2000961496202998421_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2000961496202998421)

[RedAnarchist]

http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/31179/2004503904830388312_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004503904830388312)]

[RedAnarchist]

http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/32095/2004980923784859777_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004980923784859777)

[RedAnarchist]

http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/31570/2004982593776911352_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004982593776911352)

[RedAnarchist]

http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/31316/2004938281248894106_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004938281248894106)

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10, 2007 11:00 pm
http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/31570/2004982593776911352_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004982593776911352)
:blink: isnt this one a bit sexist?

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by Ulster Socialist+October 11, 2007 11:28 pm--> (Ulster Socialist @ October 11, 2007 11:28 pm)
[email protected] 10, 2007 11:00 pm
http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/31570/2004982593776911352_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004982593776911352)
:blink: isnt this one a bit sexist? [/b]
How is it sexist?

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by Red_Anarchist+October 11, 2007 10:34 pm--> (Red_Anarchist @ October 11, 2007 10:34 pm)
Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 11, 2007 11:28 pm

[email protected] 10, 2007 11:00 pm
http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/31570/2004982593776911352_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004982593776911352)
:blink: isnt this one a bit sexist?
How is it sexist? [/b]
every other figure has a set of prominent tits, at least thats what i think they are unless theyre mutants with enlarged bollocks growing out of their chests.

Maybe a skirt would have been a more subtle way of representing feminity! :lol:

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by Ulster Socialist+October 11, 2007 11:45 pm--> (Ulster Socialist @ October 11, 2007 11:45 pm)
Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2007 10:34 pm

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 11, 2007 11:28 pm

[email protected] 10, 2007 11:00 pm
http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/31570/2004982593776911352_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004982593776911352)
:blink: isnt this one a bit sexist?
How is it sexist?
every other figure has a set of prominent tits, at least thats what i think they are unless theyre mutants with enlarged bollocks growing out of their chests.

Maybe a skirt would have been a more subtle way of representing feminity! :lol: [/b]
Sorry about that. I decided against giving them skirts because I felt that would too tradtionalistic.

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by Red_Anarchist+October 11, 2007 10:46 pm--> (Red_Anarchist @ October 11, 2007 10:46 pm)
Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 11, 2007 11:45 pm

Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2007 10:34 pm

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 11, 2007 11:28 pm

[email protected] 10, 2007 11:00 pm
http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/31570/2004982593776911352_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004982593776911352)
:blink: isnt this one a bit sexist?
How is it sexist?
every other figure has a set of prominent tits, at least thats what i think they are unless theyre mutants with enlarged bollocks growing out of their chests.

Maybe a skirt would have been a more subtle way of representing feminity! :lol:
Sorry about that. I decided against giving them skirts because I felt that would too tradtionalistic. [/b]
sorry mate, im not trying to slag you off but i think that plan has backfired! :)

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by Ulster Socialist+October 11, 2007 11:48 pm--> (Ulster Socialist @ October 11, 2007 11:48 pm)
Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2007 10:46 pm

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 11, 2007 11:45 pm

Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2007 10:34 pm

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 11, 2007 11:28 pm

[email protected] 10, 2007 11:00 pm
http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/31570/2004982593776911352_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004982593776911352)
:blink: isnt this one a bit sexist?
How is it sexist?
every other figure has a set of prominent tits, at least thats what i think they are unless theyre mutants with enlarged bollocks growing out of their chests.

Maybe a skirt would have been a more subtle way of representing feminity! :lol:
Sorry about that. I decided against giving them skirts because I felt that would too tradtionalistic.
sorry mate, im not trying to slag you off but i think that plan has backfired! :) [/b]
Thats ok. I've revised the picture a bit to see what the alternative would look like -

http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/31812/2003121654715487170_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003121654715487170)

[Organic Revolution]

Originally posted by Red_Anarchist+October 11, 2007 04:55 pm--> (Red_Anarchist @ October 11, 2007 04:55 pm)
Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 11, 2007 11:48 pm

Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2007 10:46 pm

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 11, 2007 11:45 pm

Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2007 10:34 pm

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 11, 2007 11:28 pm

[email protected] 10, 2007 11:00 pm
http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/31570/2004982593776911352_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004982593776911352)
:blink: isnt this one a bit sexist?
How is it sexist?
every other figure has a set of prominent tits, at least thats what i think they are unless theyre mutants with enlarged bollocks growing out of their chests.

Maybe a skirt would have been a more subtle way of representing feminity! :lol:
Sorry about that. I decided against giving them skirts because I felt that would too tradtionalistic.
sorry mate, im not trying to slag you off but i think that plan has backfired! :)
Thats ok. I've revised the picture a bit to see what the alternative would look like -

http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/31812/2003121654715487170_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003121654715487170) [/b]
Well just to be absurd I am going to bring up the point that you are gender typing through clothing, a trick used by ad companies to keep males and females in the gender roles.

[Pawn Power]

Sorry, RA, but those are terrible

, Nothing against you.

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by Pawn [email protected] 12, 2007 03:29 pm
Sorry, RA, but those are terrible

, Nothing against you.
No offence taken, PP, I never intended them to be brilliant pictures.

[which doctor]

The first two are pretty bad, but the last few are better, I just don't know why some people have globes for heads.

I like the breasts (even if they are horribly drawn) better than the skirts.

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 09:36 pm
The first two are pretty bad, but the last few are better, I just don't know why some people have globes for heads.

I like the breasts (even if they are horribly drawn) better than the skirts.
The ones with globes for heads are personifications of the world.

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by Organic Revolution+October 12, 2007 12:51 am--> (Organic Revolution @ October 12, 2007 12:51 am)
Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2007 04:55 pm

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 11, 2007 11:48 pm

Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2007 10:46 pm

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 11, 2007 11:45 pm

Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2007 10:34 pm

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 11, 2007 11:28 pm

[email protected] 10, 2007 11:00 pm
http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/31570/2004982593776911352_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004982593776911352)
:blink: isnt this one a bit sexist?
How is it sexist?
every other figure has a set of prominent tits, at least thats what i think they are unless theyre mutants with enlarged bollocks growing out of their chests.

Maybe a skirt would have been a more subtle way of representing feminity! :lol:
Sorry about that. I decided against giving them skirts because I felt that would too tradtionalistic.
sorry mate, im not trying to slag you off but i think that plan has backfired! :)
Thats ok. I've revised the picture a bit to see what the alternative would look like -

http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/31812/2003121654715487170_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003121654715487170)
Well just to be absurd I am going to bring up the point that you are gender typing through clothing, a trick used by ad companies to keep males and females in the gender roles. [/b]
surely if the choice is that or exxagerated breasts it gotta be the lesser of 2 evils? :blink:

[Defender]

Why don't they have neither weird breasts nor skirts?

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 12, 2007 10:39 pm
surely if the choice is that or exxagerated breasts it gotta be the lesser of 2 evils? :blink:
How were the breasts "exagerated"?

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2007 03:05 pm
Why don't they have neither weird breasts nor skirts?
How else would you know they were female? I originally put breasts in order to show both men and women.

[Bilan]

RA, you're an amazing artist.
So much depth and uniqueness to your images.

[Dr Mindbender]

RA, why dont you picture-ise some RATM songs? 'bombtrack' and 'sleep now in the fire' would be good ones to start on!

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 13, 2007 04:04 pm
RA, why dont you picture-ise some RATM songs? 'bombtrack' and 'sleep now in the fire' would be good ones to start on!
Good idea

[Defender]

Originally posted by Red_Anarchist+October 13, 2007 09:10 am--> (Red_Anarchist @ October 13, 2007 09:10 am)
[email protected] 13, 2007 03:05 pm
Why don't they have neither weird breasts nor skirts?
How else would you know they were female? I originally put breasts in order to show both men and women. [/b]
Well, personally, just by looking at the heads several of them appear female to my eyes. But further, why is it important that everyone think the ones your are trying to denote as female recognize them as being female?

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by Defender+October 13, 2007 06:20 pm--> (Defender @ October 13, 2007 06:20 pm)
Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2007 09:10 am

[email protected] 13, 2007 03:05 pm
Why don't they have neither weird breasts nor skirts?
How else would you know they were female? I originally put breasts in order to show both men and women.
Well, personally, just by looking at the heads several of them appear female to my eyes. But further, why is it important that everyone think the ones your are trying to denote as female recognize them as being female? [/b]
It isn't vital, but the people are supposed to represent as large a part of the world population as possible.

[coda]

Oh, Come on, Comrades. You gotta have some i-mag-in-ation!

Imagine if you will --- a pop-up interactive book for kids of pre-reading age.
Open the book and the song "Imagine" starts playing. The sun pops out and the earth starts spinning.. the people marching and singing!!!

"Hasta La Victoria Siempre!"

The first flush of revolution and they ain't even potty-trained yet!!!

yup. a good first revolutionary reader for toddlers. I could see a whole series of these books, actually.

Again, good work RA, especially given the very limited art tools of MS.

(Excuse all the unintentional & intentional puns)

[coda]

It's all brilliant.. but the 3rd frame with the Capitalist world figure is excellent. The closed eyes and clenched mouth says it all!

Don't change anything!

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 14, 2007 04:09 pm
Oh, Come on, Comrades. You gotta have some i-mag-in-ation!

Imagine if you will --- a pop-up interactive book for kids of pre-reading age.
Open the book and the song "Imagine" starts playing. The sun pops out and the earth starts spinning.. the people marching and singing!!!

"Hasta La Victoria Siempre!"

The first flush of revolution and they ain't even potty-trained yet!!!

yup. a good first revolutionary reader for toddlers. I could see a whole series of these books, actually.

Again, good work RA, especially given the very limited art tools of MS.

(Excuse all the unintentional & intentional puns)
I wouldn't have thought of that, personally. I think some of the things in the pictures, such as symbols, may be confusing to kids though.

[coda]

no way, kids relate to stuff like that... the earlier they see the symbols the better.

I'm Dead serious--- I think you've got something there. Go for it.

[Defender]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2007 01:09 pm
It isn't vital, but the people are supposed to represent as large a part of the world population as possible.
Oh absolutely! I'm not saying you should exclude women, but what's wrong with them being gender neutral?

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by Defender+October 16, 2007 12:34 am--> (Defender @ October 16, 2007 12:34 am)
[email protected] 13, 2007 01:09 pm
It isn't vital, but the people are supposed to represent as large a part of the world population as possible.
Oh absolutely! I'm not saying you should exclude women, but what's wrong with them being gender neutral? [/b]
If you look at the newer ones I've made, they are now all gender-neutral, so we don't have the problem anymore.

[AAFCE]

Oh gawd.

Breasts are sexist now!

Spread the word!

[bezdomni]

Do one to an immortal technique song.

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 03, 2007 04:09 pm
Do one to an immortal technique song.
I would virtually have to do a picture for each line for one of their songs.

[Knight of Cydonia]

:lol: R_A made another funny but awesome picture again, you know R_A...you are a creative person ;) make another one mate!

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 05, 2007 04:24 pm
:lol: R_A made another funny but awesome picture again, you know R_A...you are a creative person ;) make another one mate!
What song should I do one for?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Originally posted by Red_Anarchist
What song should I do one for?
hm...let see....how about The Sound of Silence by Simon and Garfunkel? i wanna see how you draw the Neon God on it :P

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by Maya+November 05, 2007 05:02 pm--> (Maya @ November 05, 2007 05:02 pm)
Red_Anarchist
What song should I do one for?
hm...let see....how about The Sound of Silence by Simon and Garfunkel? i wanna see how you draw the Neon God on it :P [/b]
I've done it - never heard the song, but those are beautiful lyrics.

[bezdomni]

"cop killer"