The White army and Symbolism

[Forward Union]

I find it very odd that the Russian White army used the Red and Black flag. I realise that the flag was not to be used on the left until probably about 10 years later (The zapatistas, Cuban Syndicalists the CNT etc), but what was the symbolic meaning of it in this context?

http://www.requetes.com/Imagenes/rovs.jpg

[spartan]

I think that is the Russian national flag?

[Forward Union]

Opps! Its the stupid work computers colour settings.

However. I have seen other images that show the horizontal red and black used in the Russian civil war.

In which case I would simply add, who used it, and why. But I still suspect it was the white army.

[black magick hustla]

Originally posted by William [email protected] 09, 2007 03:44 pm
Opps! Its the stupid work computers colour settings.

However. I have seen other images that show the horizontal red and black used in the Russian civil war.

In which case I would simply add, who used it, and why. But I still suspect it was the white army.
I am almost certain mexican magonistas used the flag before the russian civil war.

[Tower of Bebel]

I think the flag in this picture contains a very dark blue.

[YKTMX]

Maybe they identified politically with the anti-working class aims of the Russian anarchist movement?

Although, that aside, the flag in picture is obviously the "tradtional" red, white and blue Russian flag.

[RedAnarchist]

What colour did you see the white bit as?

[YKTMX]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 11:40 am
What colour did you see the white bit as?
White.

[Tower of Bebel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 01:40 pm
What colour did you see the white bit as?
It fades with teh background.

[Forward Union]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 11:15 am
Maybe they identified politically with the anti-working class aims of the Russian anarchist movement?

That's what I was thinking. The Aims of the anarchist movement, the self emancipation of the workers and the construction of a free system of soviets was certain in line with other anti-working class ideas. Such as Tsarism.

Examples of what I mean.

A depiction of (what i think is) the white army from "9 lives of nestor makhno"
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3255/vlcsnap144924tc1.jpg

Some fucking wierd anti-white poster, with what I was told isa red and black flag.
http://www.thestranger.com/blog/files/2007/01/706bg.jpg

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by [email protected] 09, 2007 04:47 pm
I think the flag in this picture contains a very dark blue.
yes, if you look carefully it does also have a white stripe at the top so it is the tsarist russian tricolour.