Titoism

[MarshalAlex]

Titoism is an adaptation of communist ideology named after Josip Broz Tito, leader of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia...

I live in Croatia, ex-Yugoslavia. and i want to know what do you think about titoism as an kind of a communist ideology...
People in Yugoslavia enjoy their life, i know i lived in it, and it was wonderful!

From my point of view the best way to rule the motherland!

So what are yours opinions?

[Die Neue Zeit]

^^^ "Titoism" was and is little more than a forerunner of the parecon espoused by Michael Albert.

[syndicat]

hammer:
"Titoism" was and is little more than a forerunner of the parecon espoused by Michael Albert.

actually not. that's because the workers "self-managment" in Yugoslavia was fake. It was fake because the professionals and managers really controlled the various firms. The workers councils did decide who the managers were but if you work all day, all year, running a machine or whatever, you don't get to learn about engineering or financial planning etc. and so you are dependent on the professionals and managers. so there was a class of bosses at the top.

and those bosses were in a good position to become private owners with the shift to privatization, which was a vast theft of the public wealth. Yugoslavia under the old "self-managed" market socialism was what Michael Albert would call coorindatorism, because it had a coordinator ruling class, that is, the professionals and managers in the firms, and the elite party apparatchiks, were the dominating class. Also, the old Yugoslav system was a market system, and parecon is a planned economy, and anti-market.

[MarshalAlex]

Originally posted by [email protected] 07, 2007 08:19 pm
hammer:
"Titoism" was and is little more than a forerunner of the parecon espoused by Michael Albert.

actually not. that's because the workers "self-managment" in Yugoslavia was fake. It was fake because the professionals and managers really controlled the various firms. The workers councils did decide who the managers were but if you work all day, all year, running a machine or whatever, you don't get to learn about engineering or financial planning etc. and so you are dependent on the professionals and managers. so there was a class of bosses at the top.

and those bosses were in a good position to become private owners with the shift to privatization, which was a vast theft of the public wealth. Yugoslavia under the old "self-managed" market socialism was what Michael Albert would call coorindatorism, because it had a coordinator ruling class, that is, the professionals and managers in the firms, and the elite party apparatchiks, were the dominating class. Also, the old Yugoslav system was a market system, and parecon is a planned economy, and anti-market.

and those bosses were in a good position to become private owners with the shift to privatization, which was a vast theft of the public wealth.
that comes at the 1990.

[Random Precision]

Pretty much Stalinism in Yugoslavia that split with a similar structure in the USSR over its lack of subservience to Moscow. Some experimental but highly limited and controlled workers' self-management was introduced, which was just about the only thing that sets it apart from other Stalinist regimes.

[MarshalAlex]

Originally posted by [email protected] 07, 2007 08:23 pm
Pretty much Stalinism in Yugoslavia that split with a similar structure in the USSR over its lack of subservience to Moscow. Some experimental but highly limited and controlled workers' self-management was introduced, which was just about the only thing that sets it apart from other Stalinist regimes.
Stalinists in yougoslavia end up on "Goli otok" jail...

The best time in Yugoslavia that i like to call "Renaissance of Yugoslavia" was 1970. - 1980. (Tito's death).