punk/emo commie stuff?

[Owen-]

The title says most of it. You guys got any links to communist bands?

dont know if this has been posted before... probably has...

[IcarusAngel]

Boy Sets Fire (http://www.boysetsfire.org/)


"The idea of capitalism leaves a bad taste in my mouth," says Boy Sets Fire bassist Darrell Hyde.

It doesn't take but 10 minutes into the interview to discover that he, vocalist Nathan Gray and guitarist Josh Latshaw are proud, modern-day communists. Gray and Latshaw both are American Communist Party members (not Hyde, who says he has some problems with the organization).

"We lean toward socialist or communist ideas," Hyde says. "Capitalism depends on the class system. In theory, everyone could work equally as hard, but someone is still gonna starve. I know that's wrong."



Hyde says he brought home a copy of the Communist Manifesto when in 11th grade at Newark High School in Delaware. "My father and I discussed it. He was never very open to the idea, but he never hindered me. The discussions forced me to learn more about it, so I could out-argue him."

http://www.timmcmahan.com/boysetsfire.htm


The hardcore band "Born Against" has some marxist leanings.

Then there's the band "The dicks," a self-described "commie punk band."

The Red Skins (http://www.redskins.co.uk/)

There was the band, "The Stalin," led by Michiro Endo, who helped start the japanese hardcore punk scene. Can't remember exactly the ideology he held.

The lead singer of "The Clash" was a socialist.


There are a lot of others. However, most punk/hardcore/emocore are liberal, anarchist, just plain anti-capitalist, and other forms of leftism rather than Marxist.

[Sickle of Justice]

i think Randy the Band is communist (or perhaps anarchist. i don't know them all that well).

most good punk bands are left anarchists, autonomist commies, etc. or stupid drunken morons.

[RedAnarchist]

What on earth does emo have to do with punk? Isn't emo for middle-class white teenagers who think they're depressed and act gloomy all the time?

[redrogue]

Originally posted by Owen-@September 28, 2007 05:54 pm
The title says most of it. You guys got any links to communist bands?

dont know if this has been posted before... probably has...
Foo Fighters
Babyshambles - I think

[WashingtonBullets]

Babyshambles - I think

unrelated to whether or not they are left sympathisers......i hate pete doherty. Posh Boy turned drug addict......how very sad.


The lead singer of "The Clash" was a socialist

Compare the mighty Joe Strummer (after whome i am named :D ) to some middle class loser like doherty and u can see where im coming from.

however more on topic:

The Redskins are the most potent Socialist band I've heard. Lyrics wise and action aswell. Billy Bragg is also a legend of the left in my opinion.

[Ultra-Violence]

What on earth does emo have to do with punk? Isn't emo for middle-class white teenagers who think they're depressed and act gloomy all the time?


i was thinking the same thing EMO how that come up? but yeah most punk bands are leftist and all and like some other people already said some are just drunk morons

[Sickle of Justice]

for some reason a lot of people equate emo with punk. probably because a lot of shitty pop bands are thought of as poseur punx by the punk community and poseur emos by the emo community.

[Owen-]

I should have made it more clear - I enjoy both punk and emo i was looking for communist songs under each category. I dont equate emo music with punk music.


Isn't emo for middle-class white teenagers who think they're depressed and act gloomy all the time?

Um not really - thats a bit of a steriotypical view isnt it?

Emo music is a bit different from being emo.

yes/no?

[Rage]

I listen to some post-hardcore ("screamo") that some people might classify as emo. Most of it is either Christian (Underoath, akissforjersey, etc.) or has nothing political about it.

The one exception is Alexisonfire. They have some songs on social issues (Not really like "Fuck the government!", more stuff like "cocaine sucks, society makes us do it, so don't listen to society!"). They did a tour with Anti-Flag that I missed . They are coming to North Carolina so I might see them soon :D !

As far as punk music: Anti-Flag, Bad Religion, any good punk, etc...


/,,/
Rock on!

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by Sickle of [email protected] 03, 2007 01:08 am
for some reason a lot of people equate emo with punk. probably because a lot of shitty pop bands are thought of as poseur punx by the punk community and poseur emos by the emo community.
For kids who think that emo has fuck all to do with punk: -

Get clued up (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotive_hardcore)

[F*S*D*S*]

Reagan Youth is a damn good band

[Djehuti]

Originally posted by Sickle of [email protected] 30, 2007 10:04 pm
i think Randy the Band is communist (or perhaps anarchist. i don't know them all that well).

During a gig they said "You don't have to worry, we are anarchists not communists". When the next band, Doktor Kosmos, stepped up they replied "Now you can start worrying, we're communists not anarchists". :)

Guess Randy are anarcho-commies, they've got a song called "Karl Marx and history" namedropping Marx, Goldman and Chomsky.

[Sickle of Justice]

Originally posted by Invader Zim+October 03, 2007 07:44 pm--> (Invader Zim @ October 03, 2007 07:44 pm)
Sickle of [email protected] 03, 2007 01:08 am
for some reason a lot of people equate emo with punk. probably because a lot of shitty pop bands are thought of as poseur punx by the punk community and poseur emos by the emo community.
For kids who think that emo has fuck all to do with punk: -

Get clued up (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotive_hardcore) [/b]
yeh, well the roots are the same, but the music nowadays is pretty different. especially when it comes to politrix.

[Ultra-Violence]

Um not really - thats a bit of a steriotypical view isnt it?


Im pretty sure its a known fact


and Reagan Youth ROCKs!

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Shameless self promotion:
Friends Of The Red Army Faction (http://www.radiatorcollective.com/fraf) (also on RupertMurdoch'sSpace (http://www.myspace.com/friendsoftheredarmyfaction)) - super scrappy peace-punk fronted by some sort of ultraleftist Mao-reading anarchist.
Eviction Party (http://www.myspace.com/disvictionparty) - emo like it's 1990 all over again, in a basement full of trainhopping PC kids in Vancouver, or somewhere.

[Fawkes]

I doubt you'll be able to find any leftist emo bands. As for punk, there are loads of them in each subgenre.

[Honggweilo]

There was the band, "The Stalin," led by Michiro Endo, who helped start the japanese hardcore punk scene. Can't remember exactly the ideology he held.

Endo was a "democratic socialist" reformist who even helped restore capitalism in poland with Solidarnosc.. Great music though.. Also a great act, he literally took a dump on his crowd and fans once on stage :lol:

ow and this might help;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_ideologies

I'm currently into Fermin Muguruzera and his early band Kortau, genuine Basque Communist Skapunk ;)

[Sickle of Justice]

Originally posted by Virgin Molotov [email protected] 08, 2007 06:45 am
Shameless self promotion:
Friends Of The Red Army Faction (http://www.radiatorcollective.com/fraf) (also on RupertMurdoch'sSpace (http://www.myspace.com/friendsoftheredarmyfaction)) - super scrappy peace-punk fronted by some sort of ultraleftist Mao-reading anarchist.
Eviction Party (http://www.myspace.com/disvictionparty) - emo like it's 1990 all over again, in a basement full of trainhopping PC kids in Vancouver, or somewhere.
heheheh.... good bands. is FRAF still together?

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Originally posted by Sickle of Justice+October 11, 2007 07:18 pm--> (Sickle of Justice @ October 11, 2007 07:18 pm)
Virgin Molotov [email protected] 08, 2007 06:45 am
Shameless self promotion:
Friends Of The Red Army Faction (http://www.radiatorcollective.com/fraf) (also on RupertMurdoch'sSpace (http://www.myspace.com/friendsoftheredarmyfaction)) - super scrappy peace-punk fronted by some sort of ultraleftist Mao-reading anarchist.
Eviction Party (http://www.myspace.com/disvictionparty) - emo like it's 1990 all over again, in a basement full of trainhopping PC kids in Vancouver, or somewhere.
heheheh.... good bands. is FRAF still together? [/b]
Together, and recording another batch of songs in two hours.

[DISTURBEDrbl911]

Check out Against Me! and Rise Against, they aren't necessarily communist, but they are alright.

[heavymanners]

Originally posted by Owen-@September 28, 2007 05:54 pm
The title says most of it. You guys got any links to communist bands?

dont know if this has been posted before... probably has...
Maoist hardcore from Canada:

http://www.akfortyseven.net/


Communist/radical hardcore from the Netherlands:

http://home01.wxs.nl/~seeinred/SeeinRed.htm


Leftist/anti-fascist streetpunk and hardcore record label:

http://www.insurgence.net/info.aspx?action=releases

[Fawkes]

Sick of it All

[Wanted Man]

Commandantes (http://commandantes.de/), a German band that does all sorts of old workers' songs.

[Revolucija]

With engine heart
http://www.myspace.com/withengineheart

With Engine Heart is a five piece band from Celje, Slovenia. They play intense emotional screamo with a strong political background and a love for passionate creation and playful living in a world that denies it.

[Rage]

I like with engine heart a lot.

Thanks :D

/,,/
Rock on!

[Revolucija]

he he me too.
watched them in belgrade this month, here are some pics: http://www.zooomr.com/photos/hesse/
;)

[Ian]

http://www.myspace.com/johnnyhobo

Folk-punk.

[Fawkes]

Blood for Blood

[Revolucija]

The Hollowpoints, punk rock, US

http://www.thehollowpoints.com/
http://www.myspace.com/thehollowpointswa

[Fawkes]

You could also check out bands from Insurgence Records. (http://www.insurgence.net/main.aspx)

[Rage]

Originally posted by [email protected] 15, 2007 02:09 am
he he me too.
watched them in belgrade this month, here are some pics: http://www.zooomr.com/photos/hesse/
;)
Do they have a CD out? Is there any way for me to get one (I live in america)

-Fawkes

[Sickle of Justice]

Behind Enemy Lines, Crustpunk, Pittsburg

[jaffe]

Blood for Blood <_< no

for commie punkmusic check out seein red

http://home.planet.nl/~ocvdberg/SeeinRed.htm

more commie/socialist bands are LÄRM, manliftingbanner, profound and deadstoolpigeon.

[Fawkes]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 12:59 am

Blood for Blood <_< no

for commie punkmusic check out seein red

http://home.planet.nl/~ocvdberg/SeeinRed.htm

more commie/socialist bands are LÄRM, manliftingbanner, profound and deadstoolpigeon.
...yes. How is "White Trash Anthem" not an outwardly leftist song? Unlike most punk bands that just preach their politics, Blood for Blood actually talks about the conditions that they had/have to live in as working class people in America. That&#39;s a far more effective way of winning people over and connecting to them than to just preach to them.

[jaffe]

I&#39;m a big B4B fan. In my opinion they are not a communist band. They have an intense hate against the establishment and I think their singer against the whole world. Their lyrics deal mostly with alchoholism (still fucked up, Cheap Wine), rage (Enter The Criminal Mind,Eulogy For A Dream, piss over all your hopes and dreams, hurt you) fighting, brotherhood and whiggers (paper gangster).&#39; White trash is in some a way a leftist song, but does writing a song about poverty and your background makes you a commie band? :mellow:

[Fawkes]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 12:00 pm
I&#39;m a big B4B fan. In my opinion they are not a communist band. They have an intense hate against the establishment and I think their singer against the whole world. Their lyrics deal mostly with alchoholism (still fucked up, Cheap Wine), rage (Enter The Criminal Mind,Eulogy For A Dream, piss over all your hopes and dreams, hurt you) fighting, brotherhood and whiggers (paper gangster).&#39; White trash is in some a way a leftist song, but does writing a song about poverty and your background makes you a commie band? :mellow:
I&#39;ll admit, I was suggesting leftist bands, not outwardly communist ones, so in that sense, you are correct.

[redrogue]

Originally posted by Red&#045;star&#045;[email protected] 02, 2007 03:56 pm
unrelated to whether or not they are left sympathisers......i hate pete doherty. Posh Boy turned drug addict......how very sad.
Agreed, Pete Doherty has absolutley no talent, can&#39;t sing and should be in prison&#33;

But the drummer of the bayshambles was at the London Marxist Convention in July this year.

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

"This is the starting of a brand new revolution
Bite the hand that feeds
Stand up and fight against messages that they&#39;re sending
Stop their frequency

You&#39;re always talkin&#39; (its never ending)
It&#39;s about time that we turned off the radio
Call the request lines and tell them that it&#39;s over
You&#39;re always playin&#39; all of the same songs
Over and over again
It&#39;s about time that we all turned off the radio

We&#39;ll listen to b-sides and sing along
To anthems of the years gone by
Integrity and honesty will prevail tonight
When it&#39;s all over (when it&#39;s all over)
One question still remains
Why do so many bands never make it to the radio?"

-The Ataris, Song: "Radio #2" Album: So Long Astoria

[lvleph]

From the very beginning, "emo" (short for "emotional") seemed like a goofy name for a rock genre. The story holds that Washington, D.C.&#39;s punk icon Ian MacKaye was onstage in the mid-&#39;80s with Embrace (a short-lived group that fell between pioneering hardcore punks Minor Threat and the ongoing Fugazi) when someone shouted from the audience, "You guys are emo-core&#33;"

"You mean like Emo Phillips?" Mac-Kaye supposedly responded.

Silly or not, the name stuck for a certain brand of heartfelt, hard-driving punk that is arguably one of the most galvanizing movements in the rock underground. It&#39;s also one of the most commercially vibrant, thanks to the recent success of Jimmy Eat World and several of the bands on the Vagrant Records label.

source (http://www.jimdero.com/News2002/May19Emo.htm)

[Bad Grrrl Agro]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 05:59 am
check out seein red
Saw them when they came to milwaukee. I remember that they were wearing fanny packs when I was chillin&#39; with them before the show. Fanny packs kick ass. European hxc is kool.

[BrokenHeart]

Some left/radical punk bands I can think of are;
~Anti-Flag
~Atari Teenage Riot (I think their punk, if not hardcore)
~The Living End
~Moving Units
~RATM (If not rock/rap, then punk)

The Emo genre is a little bit tougher to decide what is leftist and what isn't. Lots of songs come off "radical" though their political motivation may remain hidden.

Here are the lyrics to "The Great Escape" by boyslikegirls.
Paper bags and plastic hearts
All are belongings in shopping carts
It's goodbye
But we got one more night
Let's get drunk and ride around
And make peace with an empty town
We can make it right

Throw it away
Forget yesterday
We'll make the great escape
We won't hear a word they say
They don't know us anyway
Watch it burn
Let it die
Cause we are finally free tonight

Tonight will change our lives
It's so good to be by your side
We'll cry
We won't give up the fight
We'll scream loud at the top of our lungs
And they'll think it's just cause we're young
And we'll feel so alive

This is a good example of radical Emo music. On the surface it speaks of two lovers doing what they want, which is leaving town. But in its pores we see two socially confined people ready to make a change and break from the norm. Their minds are set free from the oppression amongst them and gain a clarity of a sort.
Then again, this depends on how one defines "radical." Coming from the US, I find that the radicals aren't nesecarily confined to governmental opposition with public expression of it. The US, with its sensationalism market and bogus negativity to women, contains a culture that is heavily confused and, for me, when I see a person who tries to avoid the basic influences of "americanized" recognitions, they represent a portion of the pre-mature radicals.

Point of view of course, but since this is mine I will go on to list some Emo bands that I find left/radical.
~Cursive
~Boyslikegirls
~Circa Survive (Emo-ish, I think)
~Coheed and Cambria (More rock, but Emo as well)
~Belle and Sebastian (<---- Goodies there)
~A Skylit Drive
~Ugly Casanova (Not so sure really here, but i'll include them just as well)

[Bazza]

Foo Fighters
Babyshambles - I think

Not sure about Babyshambles but their guitarist Mik Whitnall was in the left wing skinhead band Skin Deep. There's a few videos of Skin Deep on YouTube -

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TeczRoKPuDQ (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TeczRoKPuDQ)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fU0AfjO58gY (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fU0AfjO58gY)

[Sickle of Justice]

Subvert.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=43228882

damn sick punk/ska/hardcore band. not really communist, per se, but probably anarcho-(insert communalist ideology here).

i've decided to call them "EZLN-Core. i think that name suits their sound.

[w0lf]

What on earth does emo have to do with punk? Isn't emo for middle-class white teenagers who think they're depressed and act gloomy all the time?

Correct. Those are MTV whores.

For screamo The Encyclopedia of American Traitors are great. Same with Cease upon the Capitol

^^
Real screamo my friends.

[Patchd]

Um not really - thats a bit of a steriotypical view isnt it?

Emo music is a bit different from being emo.

yes/no?
Even being an emo doesn't equate to you being middle class. Thats silly, now its mainly a dress sense and music taste, but actual emotionally challenged emos are just really depressed people, regardless of what class they're from.

And "middle" class? Oh puh-lease :rolleyes: