UF student tasered & jailed

[coda]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297126,00.html


video:
http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=157250


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqAVvlyVbag

his website:
http://www.theandrewmeyer.com/


University of Florida Student Tasered, Arrested During John Kerry Forum
Monday , September 17, 2007

GAINESVILLE, Fla. —

A University of Florida student was Tasered and arrested Monday when he attempted to speak at a forum with U.S. Sen. John Kerry during a question and answer session, university officials said.

Andrew Meyer, 21, asked Kerry why he did not contest the 2004 presidential election, which he lost to President Bush, and why there had been no moves to impeach Bush.

"He apparently asked several questions — he went on for quite awhile — then he was asked to stop," university spokesman Steve Orlando said. "He had used his allotted time. His microphone was cut off then he became upset."

While as many as four police officers tried to remove Meyer from the forum, he yelled for help and asked "What did I do?" Minutes after Meyer started speaking, he was Tasered.

Meyer was charged with resisting an officer and disturbing the peace, according to Alachua County jail records. No bond had been set. Meyer was scheduled to appear in court Tuesday morning, a jail official said.

Orlando said university police would conduct an internal investigation on the incident.

"The police department does have a standard procedure for when they use force, including when they use a Taser," Orlando said. "That is what the internal investigation would address — whether the proper procedures were followed, whether the officers acted appropriately."

The event was sponsored by the UF student government speaker's bureau, according to a news release. A telephone message left at the speaker's bureau office was not immediately returned Monday evening.

It was not known if Meyer had an attorney.

[Colonello Buendia]

Jesus fucking christ!
Police brutality! That guy needed to be allowed to ask his question without getting tasered. The fact that Kerry didn't do much to help the guy shows something else about his character.

[dannthraxxx]

that skull and bones question will blow all these conspiracy theorists mind, just fueling the fire of the internet crazies.

[Jazzratt]

All coppers are complete bastards.

Is this how you treat a person who just asked questions? It's fucking subhuman.

[Zurdito]

:unsure: and that's just the liberals

[Tatarin]

Anyone with a clear mind can smell fascism out of this.

[Comrade_Scott]

this is weird, being taserd for passing the alloted time? sounds more like a police state and not the worlds "best democracy"sounds like something that belongs in burma, but just goes to show the fucked up state that the US is and is in now

[RedAnarchist]

That's just disgusting, but what else would you expect from trigger-happy police officers? They just love those taser things,both there and here in Britain.

[Red October]

What's surprising to me about this (though it shouldn't be) is how public this was. The cops fucking electrocuted the dude in front of a huge crowd of people and a bunch of cameras like they didn't give a shit who knew. You'd think they would at least drag him outside and fuck him up where no one else would see, but apparently not. Fuck the police, this just shows how brutal they can be.

[manic expression]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 18, 2007 11:49 pm
What's surprising to me about this (though it shouldn't be) is how public this was. The cops fucking electrocuted the dude in front of a huge crowd of people and a bunch of cameras like they didn't give a shit who knew. You'd think they would at least drag him outside and fuck him up where no one else would see, but apparently not. Fuck the police, this just shows how brutal they can be.
If you ask me, they were basking in the limelight...cops love to show off their "manliness" by beating unarmed people in front of crowds. They were itching to use the taser. Even Kerry said that he wanted to answer the question as the cops started to pull the kid away, so I think this is the case of cops wanting to show off their cool toys.

[Zurdito]

40% of voters think the police were right to taser him. (http://www.local10.com/surveypopup/news/14138712/detail.html?p=news#) Some society.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Even Kerry said that he wanted to answer the question as the cops started to pull the kid away,

Of course he says that now, :lol:


Fuck the police, this just shows how brutal they can be.

And some people here consider them fellow workers!

[manic expression]

Originally posted by Compañ[email protected] 19, 2007 01:43 am
Of course he says that now, :lol:
You can hear Kerry say that just as the kid puts his hands up after asking his questions. He's a politician, he's answered those questions a million times, the cops just wanted to show off by gang-tasering someone, regardless of whether it was in any way reasonable or not.

By the way, this should be an example of the exact thing NOT to do if cops start hassling you. Flailing and making a scene like he did just gets you in big trouble, and the cops will face NO consequences for whatever they decide to do to you (which could be worse than the taser).

[Red October]

Originally posted by manic [email protected] 18, 2007 08:51 pm
By the way, this should be an example of the exact thing NOT to do if cops start hassling you. Flailing and making a scene like he did just gets you in big trouble, and the cops will face NO consequences for whatever they decide to do to you (which could be worse than the taser).
Yeah, it doesn't really matter if they're justified in arresting you or not, if you resist the arrest you get a felony added on to your charges.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

You can hear Kerry say that just as the kid puts his hands up after asking his questions.

Sorry, I didn't watch the video.

Apparently he said he would answer the questions after the police had grabbed the young man..


Originally posted by AP
Meyer refused to leave the microphone after his allotted time was up, police said. He had asked Kerry about impeaching President Bush, why he didn't challenge the 2004 election results and whether he and Bush were members of the secret society Skull and Bones at Yale University.

After Meyer repeatedly and loudly refused to walk away, two officers took him by the arms. Kerry can be heard saying, "That's all right, let me answer his question."

So at that point, it was in Kerry's best interests to provide some sort of indirect politician-speak answer. Certainly, that was preferable to the coverage this event has gotten.

[manic expression]

Originally posted by Compañ[email protected] 19, 2007 02:05 am
So at that point, it was in Kerry's best interests to provide some sort of indirect politician-speak answer. Certainly, that was preferable to the coverage this event has gotten.
Well, any answer a politician gives is "indirect politician-speak", expect no less!

[Entrails Konfetti]

Well, any answer a politician gives is "indirect politician-speak", expect no less!

Yes, especially when his next question would be " Aaaghhhh!!!"

To that Kerry would reply, "Yes that's exactly what I think about Bush's policies, too!"

[Entrails Konfetti]

I watched the video, I'm disgusted!
He didn't take up much time, and he asked three questions. But consider, alot of people ask questions with many points. So he didn't do anything wrong. I didn't hear anyone telling him his time was up, and it didn't look like his microphone was unplugged.

He was just all of a sudden encircled by police and forced away. Makes me wonder what anyone would do in that situtation with cops coming out of nowhere and surrounding you like a bunch of zombies about to eat your brains out. You'd be pretty overwhelmed.

Further more how can he be inciting a riot when hes pro-Kerry, but dissapointed in him, and is asking questions based on an iffy book.

It's not some underground Fascist conspiracy going on, its just the faculty, and police acting overbearing when it comes to young people. No one looks at the circumstances or context, there are always these rules in stone applicable to all cases, and young people are accussed of just trying to break rules because breaking them means less responsibility, so police or whatever overbearing authority, put on their battle face.

[YSR]

Hah, check out that channel 10 link (the website that has the poll Zurdito refers to). The local news is going out of their way to portray the kid as a "practical joker" whose was "joking" all the way to the jail. Nothing like a little character assassination by the media to make a little police brutality complete.

Reminds me of the way they treated us Critical Massers last month in the Twin Cities. We became a "mob" as soon as we started demanding rights for the arrested.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Here's how the SEP says this all went down:


The incident began when Meyer approached an open floor microphone during a question-and-answer session. Citing a book by journalist Greg Palast, who documented voting irregularities in the 2004 elections, Meyer said, “[Palast] said you won the 2004 election—isn’t that amazing? There were multiple reports of disenfranchising of black voters on the day of the election in 2004 in Florida and Ohio.”

Kerry quickly interrupted, “So what’s the question, what’s the question?” One of a group of campus police and officials standing directly behind Meyer approached him and told him to leave the microphone.

Speaking to the campus police, Meyer said, “He’s been talking for two hours—I think I can have two minutes, thank you very much.” He then asked the senator, with so many outstanding instances of fraud already being reported during voting, “How could you concede on the day?”

Meyer next asked Kerry, “If you’re so against [invading] Iran, how come you’re not saying, ‘Let’s impeach Bush now’? Impeach Bush now before he can invade Iran!” Meyer pointed out that a Republican-controlled Congress had impeached Clinton on completely frivolous grounds.

He then asked, “Were you a member of Skull and Bones in college with Bush?”

At that point, the microphone was cut off and police grabbed Meyer by the arms and began to pull him out of the auditorium.

Meyer protested, shouting, “I haven’t done anything! They’re arresting me! I haven’t done anything!”

After being dragged to the back of the auditorium, Meyer briefly pulled his arms free before being grabbed around the neck and tackled by the police officers. They proceeded to shock him with a Taser gun, pull him out of the auditorium, and arrest him.

The police attack, captured in numerous video recordings, prompted gasps, shouts and protestations from the audience. In contrast, Kerry was utterly indifferent. As Meyer lay on the floor crying out for help, Kerry quipped, “After they take him out of here I’ll answer his question. Unfortunately, he’s not available to come up here and swear me in as president.”

[Comrada J]

It's funny cuz when I was younger I thought tazers where being invented to help mankind by making the world safer for the rest of us...boy was I naive then! They use them as torture devices whenever they get the chance.

Holy fuck I just saw it on the news, they stunned him when he was already stomach down! I cant believe this shit.

edit: according to the story I just saw(7 news) it said Kerry wanted to keep talking and wanted to answer his questions.

[ComradeR]

Jesus fuck, and they say the US isn't headed towards becoming a police state.

[Faux Real]

Damn, it's infuriating to feel like you couldn't help the poor guy out. If I were in that crowd I would've (tried to) knocked out whoever was tazering him. The people's reactions, or lack of action is what disappointed me. They all should have stopped them from this absurd treatment. Were they clapping for the police because they began carrying him away, or for the guy who didn't back down?

[TheDifferenceEngine]

Wow.

That's "American" Democracy in action.

[bolshevik butcher]

This coincides with the recent brual arrests and treatment of anti-war protestors in America.

I'd like to hear the opinoins of an American socialists, are we seeing a return to the violence of another ear, say the 1960s in America? This was a period when the ruling class was on the ropes and America was witnessing huge if not revolutionary movements. Is it possible that due to American imperialism's failure in Iraq and the coming economic recession, and the pressure that this is putting the American ruling class under in the coming period we will see a resumption of brutality on the part of the American ruling class as it tries desperatley to keep control?

[Entrails Konfetti]

One of a group of campus police and officials standing directly behind Meyer approached him and told him to leave the microphone.

Speaking to the campus police, Meyer said, “He’s been talking for two hours—I think I can have two minutes, thank you very much.”

So basically, the police didn't consider his questiom to be worthy.

[Comrade Castro]

wow I just saw the video. He graduated from my high school.

[Red October]

I doubt the cops would appreciate it if someone in the crowd tasered them. More and more shit like this will happen if they're allowed to get away with it, which is what will probably be the case.

[Comrade_Scott]

after watching the video i have to ask a serious question are all americans fucktards or just the ones in the video? do they just sit down and watch people get brutalized or do they take action? that shit could never happen in jamaica as the officers would have all been killed the next day and if not them then other cops,,,,, plus you would have had road blocks and protests, ahh america land of cowards and couch potatoes at times sad

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19, 2007 11:43 pm
after watching the video i have to ask a serious question are all americans fucktards or just the ones in the video? do they just sit down and watch people get brutalized or do they take action? that shit could never happen in jamaica as the officers would have all been killed the next day and if not them then other cops,,,,, plus you would have had road blocks and protests, ahh america land of cowards and couch potatoes at times sad
Thats a very sweeping generalisation you just wrote. There could be many reasons why they didn't help -fear of punishment, not wanting to annoy the police, apathy etc.

[Comrade_Scott]

Originally posted by Red_Anarchist+September 19, 2007 04:47 pm--> (Red_Anarchist @ September 19, 2007 04:47 pm)
[email protected] 19, 2007 11:43 pm
after watching the video i have to ask a serious question are all americans fucktards or just the ones in the video? do they just sit down and watch people get brutalized or do they take action? that shit could never happen in jamaica as the officers would have all been killed the next day and if not them then other cops,,,,, plus you would have had road blocks and protests, ahh america land of cowards and couch potatoes at times sad
Thats a very sweeping generalisation you just wrote. There could be many reasons why they didn't help -fear of punishment, not wanting to annoy the police, apathy etc. [/b]
or just ballsless, its called doing what is right and when push came to shove they cowerd, sham shame shame, this scene (the video) shows america run by bullies put in office by cowards

[manic expression]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19, 2007 10:58 pm
or just ballsless, its called doing what is right and when push came to shove they cowerd, sham shame shame, this scene (the video) shows america run by bullies put in office by cowards
What, precisely, would that ever accomplish? Attacking a number of people who have more weapons than you is simply foolish. Want to stand up to the cops? Do it on your terms, don't be a hothead and get the living crap kicked out of you for no reason.

[Comrade_Scott]

come to jamaica and we will show you how to deal with pigs that take advantage of innocent people youll see what a bunch of "unarmed" people can d when pissed off :ph34r: and im not joking

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 12:04 am
come to jamaica and we will show you how to deal with pigs that take advantage of innocent people youll see what a bunch of "unarmed" people can d when pissed off :ph34r: and im not joking
So, all Jamaicans are like that, or is that just another generalisation?

[Guerrilla22]

Wow. So much for college being a place of open ideas. They now apparently have the gestapo running around tazering kids for saying the wrong things.

[Comrade_Scott]

a small generalisation, the media would be up in there arse by know they would have been fired no pension, and really no hope of getting a job

[Guerrilla22]

Wow. So much for college being a place of open ideas. They now apparently have the gestapo running around tazering kids for saying the wrong things.

[manic expression]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19, 2007 11:04 pm
come to jamaica and we will show you how to deal with pigs that take advantage of innocent people youll see what a bunch of "unarmed" people can d when pissed off :ph34r: and im not joking
That's great. Unfortunately, we're talking about the US, whose police force is in a slightly different position from that of Jamaica's. Do you really think a roomfull of Democrats was going to mob a bunch of cops? Do you think it would accomplish anything if they did?

[Comrade_Scott]

then that shows the sorry state that the US is in and trust me it would have gotten the point across big time

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 12:12 am
then that shows the sorry state that the US is in and trust me it would have gotten the point across big time
No, it wouldn't. It would haev just gotten a lot of students suspended or even expelled from the college and the police would look like the victims rather than Andrew Meyer.

[manic expression]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19, 2007 11:12 pm
then that shows the sorry state that the US is in and trust me it would have gotten the point across big time
We have to work with whatever "sorry state" we are faced with, we can't wish away the reality of a situation. Anyway, if what you say is true, then it is indeed very good for Jamaica, it's just that such actions are plainly ill-advised and self-defeating here.

[La Comédie Noire]

after watching the video i have to ask a serious question are all americans fucktards or just the ones in the video? do they just sit down and watch people get brutalized or do they take action? that shit could never happen in jamaica as the officers would have all been killed the next day and if not them then other cops,,,,, plus you would have had road blocks and protests, ahh america land of cowards and couch potatoes at times sad

Just goe's to show you don't have to be religious to be self righteous. :rolleyes:

But anyhow, thats some fucked up shit. I'm suprised they allowed that to get out, but they certainly do love trying to spin it.

[Comrade_Scott]

so let me get this straight, stay in school and watch dude get abused, or take action get expelled....... :lol:

No news station to my knowledge calls for internal investigation or there heads.... :lol:

not one person in a group of im gonna say dzns... hundreds.... acted like the pigs did anything wrong (apart from scream) shame shame shame to a person in a poor ass country like mine a country with serious corruption etc a person who should be looking towards the states for aid etc i laugh and say i aint touching that place with a 10ft pole, not even one person


NOT ONE PERSON RAN TO HIS AID OR TO TEAR OFF THE PIGS shame and a sad day i feel sorry for all you good americans living in a country with such cowards

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 12:23 am
so let me get this straight, stay in school and watch dude get abused, or take action get expelled....... :lol:

No news station to my knowledge calls for internal investigation or there heads.... :lol:

not one person in a group of im gonna say dzns... hundreds.... acted like the pigs did anything wrong (apart from scream) shame shame shame to a person in a poor ass country like mine a country with serious corruption etc a person who should be looking towards the states for aid etc i laugh and say i aint touching that place with a 10ft pole, not even one person


NOT ONE PERSON RAN TO HIS AID OR TO TEAR OFF THE PIGS shame and a sad day i feel sorry for all you good americans living in a country with such cowards
Actually I'm British.

What if the students had helped? Do you really think that would have helped? I don't think it would of - the police would have used it to justify more funding or whatever, the news stations would have a field day and Andrew Meyer would have been forgotten in all of the choas. Plus, you weren't there, so who are you to judge those students? Are you honestly saying that if you were there, you'd have taken action against the cops?

[Comrade_Scott]

yes yes i would have, taken action against cops under worse circumstances

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 12:34 am
yes yes i would have, taken action against cops under worse circumstances
You do realise that most of those students have probably been brought up to respect and obey authority, right? They most likely weren't anarchists or communists, who realise that such authority is false and should be attacked and questioned.

[Comrade_Scott]

brought up in the same environment nice god fearing well off family, but me and my brother wised up dude, you can if you want to, only if you want to...... and know i think i am contradicting myself :lol:

[Comrade_Scott]

mabey you guys are right,still they are cowards and on that i refuse to change my mind

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 12:43 am
mabey you guys are right,still they are cowards and on that i refuse to change my mind
They are cowards for not attacking armed police officers?

[Comrade_Scott]

for not defending the innocent yes, let me ask you this if you are alive during the revolution and young, when faced one on one with an imperialist millitary personel and he out guns you will you run like a baby or fight for what is right?

thats all it boils down to at the end of the day, are you big enough to fight for what is right or just sit and do nothing?

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 01:00 am
for not defending the innocent yes, let me ask you this if you are alive during the revolution and young, when faced one on one with an imperialist millitary personel and he out guns you will you run like a baby or fight for what is right?

thats all it boils down to at the end of the day, are you big enough to fight for what is right or just sit and do nothing?
I think you're blowing it all out of proportion. Yes, what happened was disgusting, but you can't expect people to be perfect. Perhaps some of the students felt regret at not helping afterwards, maybe some didn't, but it happened in a very short space of time.

[Comrade_Scott]

Originally posted by Red_Anarchist+September 19, 2007 06:13 pm--> (Red_Anarchist @ September 19, 2007 06:13 pm)
[email protected] 20, 2007 01:00 am
for not defending the innocent yes, let me ask you this if you are alive during the revolution and young, when faced one on one with an imperialist millitary personel and he out guns you will you run like a baby or fight for what is right?

thats all it boils down to at the end of the day, are you big enough to fight for what is right or just sit and do nothing?
I think you're blowing it all out of proportion. Yes, what happened was disgusting, but you can't expect people to be perfect. Perhaps some of the students felt regret at not helping afterwards, maybe some didn't, but it happened in a very short space of time. [/b]
ehh mabey you are right

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

From the WSWS:

"Kerry said nothing while six police officers grabbed the student in the midst of his questioning of the senator and proceeded to shock him at least once with a Taser gun. On Tuesday, Kerry refused to condemn the actions of the police. “The police must have had a reason to make their decision,” Kerry said, adding that the attack on the student was “a law enforcement issue.”"

[bootleg42]

The overwhelming number of U.S. college students are just petty bourgeoisie so you can expect them to do nothing when some shit like this happens. Don't be shocked when something unjust happens in front of them and they do nothing.

[Comrada J]

Comrade Scott it right; it's just fucking heartless to sit by and watch someone get electrocuted. It's a sad reflection on society. If you watch the vid there's basically a whole police squad on his arse already.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9v2U1PVHQ5A

Another vid:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nnAGjmnfqik
You'll actually notice the police start crowding around him not long after he starts talking. Can't blame him for getting nervous with the pigs breathing down his neck.

[p.m.a.]

I think the American ruling class realizes that, due to the inevitable economic recession that all signs show will be massive, their days are increasingly numbered. And when any ruling class becomes threatened, authoritarianism is employed. The problem is that people have been shouting "America is turning into a police state!" for decades: today, however, we actually have economic and political evidence that something massive is happening, and thus a police-state doesn't look so far out of the question.

[coda]

<<Kerry said nothing while six police officers grabbed the student in the midst of his questioning of the senator and proceeded to shock him at least once with a Taser gun. On Tuesday, Kerry refused to condemn the actions of the police. “The police must have had a reason to make their decision,” Kerry said, adding that the attack on the student was “a law enforcement issue.”" >>

that scrounge Kerry. It&#39;s infuriating&#33;&#33;&#33; And half the people actually thought he&#39;d have been better than Bush.

anyhow, Meyer is out of jail now.

[manic expression]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 12:00 am
for not defending the innocent yes, let me ask you this if you are alive during the revolution and young, when faced one on one with an imperialist millitary personel and he out guns you will you run like a baby or fight for what is right?

thats all it boils down to at the end of the day, are you big enough to fight for what is right or just sit and do nothing?
Yes, because a college kid getting gang-tasered is the same as a revolutionary situation.

Come on, have some perspective here. Encouraging people to get their asses kicked and thrown in jail for no reason doesn&#39;t help anyone.

[Faux Real]

Originally posted by manic [email protected] 21, 2007 12:59 pm
Yes, because a college kid getting gang-tasered is the same as a revolutionary situation.

Come on, have some perspective here. Encouraging people to get their asses kicked and thrown in jail for no reason doesn&#39;t help anyone.
Standing up to illegitimate and unlawful authority is not revolutionary?

[Mkultra]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2007 07:31 pm
<<Kerry said nothing while six police officers grabbed the student in the midst of his questioning of the senator and proceeded to shock him at least once with a Taser gun. On Tuesday, Kerry refused to condemn the actions of the police. “The police must have had a reason to make their decision,” Kerry said, adding that the attack on the student was “a law enforcement issue.”" >>

that scrounge Kerry. It&#39;s infuriating&#33;&#33;&#33; And half the people actually thought he&#39;d have been better than Bush.

anyhow, Meyer is out of jail now.
well he woulda been better then Bush regardless of this--but thats still not saying much since a rock woulda been better then Bush

[blake 3:17]

You can send John Kerry an email by going to http://kerry.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm

I put my concern as civil rights and my subject line as Andrew Meyers. A small deluge could help things for the better.



FDLE reviews Taser incident
TRACY WILCOX/The Gainesville Sun
University of Florida student Erica Carlsson, 22, center right, fills out a complaint form on Wednesday against UF police officers involved in the Tasering incident.



By LISE FISHER
Sun staff writer

The criminal case involving a University of Florida student, Tasered by campus police this week, is in its early stages, officials said.

But the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, charged with conducting an independent investigation into the actions of UF Police, launched immediately into its review Tuesday afternoon. It moved forward during the week with FDLE agents at the campus police department starting interviews and trying to gather photos and videos of the incident and the student&#39;s arrest.

Investigators plan to interview event organizers, witnesses who saw the student being Tasered, and police, including the two officers placed on paid leave after Monday&#39;s incident, said Dominick Pape, regional director for FDLE&#39;s Jacksonville Regional Operations Center. Police have identified the employees as the as the officer who struck the student with a Taser and the police sergeant who told her to use the weapon.

"We will give him an opportunity to also give a statement," Pape said about investigators&#39; plans to try to talk with Andrew W. Meyer, 21, the student now facing charges for resisting an officer with violence and disturbing the peace.

Police reported they struck Meyer with a Taser after they tried to physically remove him from a town hall forum with Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., and he did not "comply." Meyer had approached a microphone to question Kerry, but it was cut off after he used vulgar language.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/2007092...09210337/0/news (http://www.gainesville.com/article/20070921/NEWS/709210337/0/news)

[Mkultra]

he supposedly was tasered after bringing up Kerrys involvement with the Skulls

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23, 2007 12:06 am
he supposedly was tasered after bringing up Kerrys involvement with the Skulls
Where did you get that from?

[Mkultra]

Originally posted by Red_Anarchist+September 23, 2007 02:39 am--> (Red_Anarchist @ September 23, 2007 02:39 am)
[email protected] 23, 2007 12:06 am
he supposedly was tasered after bringing up Kerrys involvement with the Skulls
Where did you get that from? [/b]
an AOL chatroom :ph34r:

[Janus]

Apparently he said he would answer the questions after the police had grabbed the young man..
After they attempted to grab him originally. The only reason Meyer actually had his question answered and not been removed earlier was because Kerry had agreed to answer his questions. This is the part that most news sites and the videos do not show.

Meyer was originally in a position where his question would not be answered and once he realized that, he began yelling and calling for Kerry to answer them. It was at this point that the police originally stepped in but backed off a bit once Kerry agreed to answer his questions after he had finished what he had been saying prior to being interrupted. It was only at this point that most of the videos started rolling.


You&#39;ll actually notice the police start crowding around him not long after he starts talking.
They were behind him because he had already disturbed the forum in an attempt to get Kerry to answer his questions. The police had attempted to move him out earlier but Kerry agreed to answer his question.

[Gregor Samsa]

http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_58770...t.bron=homeHVDN (http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_587708.html?wt.bron=homeHVDN)

This is a video on a Belgian news website.

How (un)common is this sort of thing in the US? Does this have the foul stench of a society descending into fascism all over it or are we looking at something entirely different?

[Bilan]

...that was full on.
I&#39;m shaking.

[RedAnarchist]

We already have a thread about this - UF Student tasered (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=71056&hl=meyer)

[p.m.a.]

Fascism is a modernist construct of corporatist government. This is a neo-authoritarian police state.

[Dr Mindbender]

JHC. Im gonna post a link to this movie in the OI board and get some feedback from U&#036;A loving cappies.

[IcarusAngel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29, 2007 08:42 pm
Fascism is a modernist construct of corporatist government. This is a neo-authoritarian police state.
We don&#39;t have a corporatist government in the US? If fascism was just corporatism, the US would have long been declared a fascist state.

[Rawthentic]

The United States is not a fascist state, thats a wrong and dangerous position to take. Society is moving towards that, and we need to be able to correctly identify it when it appears.

[Janus]

Merged.