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Palmares
14th July 2003, 04:47
I've always heard about 'Sartrean Socialism' but I never have understanded what the doctrine would be. Thinking upon the matter, this would probably be described in Sartre's "Critique of Dialectical Reason". Has anyone read it? Can anyone give me any idea upon this matter?

All I can really think is that it would be a synthesis of marxism and existentialism (i.e. collectivism and individualism).

Ian
14th July 2003, 10:35
Erm, maybe it's kinda like Simone De Beauvoir's type of socialism, like lots of, erm, stuff, well De Beauvoir was kinda a socialist-feminist and they were good friends so I suppose it would be a kinda libertarian non-trotskyist socialism

RedComrade
14th July 2003, 19:07
While not exactly an expert on Sartre from what little I know about existensialism combined with my knowledge of Marxism the two seem incompatible. I would also be interested in understanding how Sartre reconciled the two and whether or not his work is of any real value to us Marxists.

anti machine
15th July 2003, 01:58
Quote: from RedComrade on 7:07 pm on July 14, 2003
While not exactly an expert on Sartre from what little I know about existensialism combined with my knowledge of Marxism the two seem incompatible. I would also be interested in understanding how Sartre reconciled the two and whether or not his work is of any real value to us Marxists.
Actually, Sartre advocated that Marxism would make existentialism obsolete. I don't know exactly what a Sartrean state would be like, but I do know that he praised Stalin's purging of the intellectual community and he was a recruiter for the French Communist Party.

Palmares
17th July 2003, 04:32
Sartre praised purges? Are you sure? I have always read that he hated Stalin, his existentialism proves this. He thought revolution was the best means to bring individual freedom, both of which Marxism and existentialism uphold.

I guess I'll probably try to read the book to answer this then...

FabFabian
12th August 2003, 02:53
Hey, de Beauvoir and Satre were more than good friends, they were lovers for most of their lives.

elijahcraig
12th August 2003, 02:55
Jean-Paul Sartre was a Communist. A Stalinist, he got angry with Camus for attacking Stalinism in The Stranger.

Palmares
12th August 2003, 03:10
Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2003, 12:55 PM
Jean-Paul Sartre was a Communist. A Stalinist, he got angry with Camus for attacking Stalinism in The Stranger.
A 'Stalinist'? Didn't Sartre get a little angry when the USSR invaded several countries?

Jean-Paul Sartre was an independent communist, independent of any state conventions.

Vinny Rafarino
12th August 2003, 03:52
Jean paul was also involved in the underground armed struggle in Gemany. More specifically the RAF.

elijahcraig
12th August 2003, 03:54
A 'Stalinist'? Didn't Sartre get a little angry when the USSR invaded several countries?

Jean-Paul Sartre was an independent communist, independent of any state conventions.

He thought Trotskyism was idealism...Stalinism materialism.

Palmares
12th August 2003, 05:38
Hence?