linux

[Red Scare]

I just installed Fedora 7 Linux on my laptop, any tips or helpful information any linux users can give me? windows XP sucks and was screwing up my laptop, and I am thinking about switching my old iMac to debian also.

[spartan]

windows XP does not suck :angry:

[Le Libérer]

I have been using Ubunto with a gnome interface for 3 years now. The same OS installed with no system crashes at all. I installed it on an old machine that had win98.

The only issue I have had with it, is mozilla firefox crashes sometimes. SO I use Opera instead and its unbelievably fast. I love it. Cant convince me to go back to windows ever again.

[rocker935]

Originally posted by [email protected] 09, 2007 10:05 pm
windows XP does not suck :angry:
Yes and no, lol. If you have used Windows for a very long time then I could easily see it being hard to make the switch. WindowsXP is the best windows operating system to date. But it is in no way an actual well designed OS. it is awful compared to the other OS's out there. The WindowsNT structre is so weak compared to the Unix structure. An OS such as Linux fuckin DESTROYS XP. Now the only reason why I think there is a reason to keeping XP is to find exploits (if you are a hacker) and for the vast majority of programs and shit. But otherwise FREE OPEN-SOURCE is the way to go. I HIGHLY reccommend starting with Ubuntu and learning how to install Beryl to make it look g00d. If you don't know what Beryl is look it up on YoutTube.

[Le Libérer]

Originally posted by rocker935+September 12, 2007 05:39 pm--> (rocker935 @ September 12, 2007 05:39 pm)
[email protected] 09, 2007 10:05 pm
windows XP does not suck :angry:
Yes and no, lol. If you have used Windows for a very long time then I could easily see it being hard to make the switch. WindowsXP is the best windows operating system to date. But it is in no way an actual well designed OS. it is awful compared to the other OS's out there. The WindowsNT structre is so weak compared to the Unix structure. An OS such as Linux fuckin DESTROYS XP. Now the only reason why I think there is a reason to keeping XP is to find exploits (if you are a hacker) and for the vast majority of programs and shit. But otherwise FREE OPEN-SOURCE is the way to go. I HIGHLY reccommend starting with Ubuntu and learning how to install Beryl to make it look g00d. If you don't know what Beryl is look it up on YoutTube. [/b]
I agree. Or if you are uneasy starting with Ubuntu and dont want to reformat, download a version of Knoppix, burn it to a CD and boot from your CD-rom. Thats the easiest way to get a fell for Linux.

I dunno when I compare Windows to Linux, I would compare it to the Borg. Their entire way of life is about sharing architecture and commuinism, which is how we got Linux server farms/grid computers. Sure, the Borg have a strategy–"You will be assimilated!" When you think about it, all they really do is reverse someone else's information grid (their brain) and mesh it into a compatible grid. That's Linux all over. Besides, at their heart, the Borg are really just a bunch of antisocial geeky types obsessed with starships. I can see the simularities.

[Faux Real]

Is it only possible to install a downloaded image of a Linux distro CD by burning it and inserting it on a reboot?

I don&#39;t have any bloody CDs to burn. <_<

[Red Scare]

yeah, the only bad part about linux is it killed the old laptop&#39;s speakers and made some other hardware functions harder but besides that great OS, i am thinking about switching to unbuntu, or putting together an old mainframe and installing it on that

[ComradeRed]

Originally posted by [email protected] 09, 2007 02:05 pm
windows XP does not suck :angry:
Sorry, but it&#39;s design is crap...unlike the Unix philosophy.

Windoze was originally going to be a microkernel, then they switched it at the last moment. Now it&#39;s as bloated as a monolithic kernel, with the efficiency of Mach.

It&#39;s message passing scheme is laughably weak.

Compare this to Unix&#39;s "Everything is-a file" philosophy, which is beautiful especially with the Solaris/BSD paradigm of vnode virtual file systems which allows polymorphism via function pointers...thus you can represent a process as a file (which is what happens in Linux too; Linux has the strongest form of the /proc pseudo-file system...if you run linux open a terminal and type in "cd /proc" and then "ls": the directories in the /proc directory are directory representations of the processes running).

Consider the /dev pseudo-file system, which is equally as beautiful, or Linux&#39;s /sys pseudo-file system which represents the various kobjects. It&#39;s beautiful&#33;

Compare this to the crappy design of a microkernel gone horribly horribly awry: windoze.

Game over, mate.

[Le Libérer]

Absolutely brilliant ComradeRed.

In terms those who have only used Windows, The OS is tight and compact and runs faster and quicker than the newest versions of windows. You dont have to keep upgrading your machine to run it.

Playing the devils advocate, The fact that many of the people that use windows still have no idea how to unzip a file means that using Linux would be a huge clusterfuck. Free is great. The fact that there are no virii written for Linux, is/was motivation enough for me to get off my ass and challenge myself to learn to use Linux.

Linux is not so great if you want to game, too. Finding drivers is a ***** generally. Installing programs can be a *****, too. The best PVR system out there is MythTV. You also have to have an engineering degree and 20 years of Linux experience to install it. Usability is key, and thats why MS can charge out the ass for the bloated OS. Anybody can pick it up, install programs, surf the net, get regular updates, etc. etc., without having to work for it like you do in Linux.

For kiosks that are to be used in a public area, Linux is king. God knows I wouldn&#39;t have anything else. And it can be used with 8-10 year old hardware and fly.

Don&#39;t get me wrong, I&#39;m in love with the *nix systems. Mandriva is freakin great as is Fedora. But for the less technically inclined, until Linux can come up with a way to monetize on the OS and create something as easy to use as Windows, it will always fall behind in the eyes of lazy windows users. It IS a commitment. It has been for me. I almost cried when I updated Opera for the first time Oi Yeh.

[which doctor]

I&#39;ve been using Ubuntu for a while now. It works beautifully. Found all my hardware and everything. Only problem with it is that flash sometimes crashes firefox and I can&#39;t get any audio from flash.

I also put an Ubuntu live disk in my laptop and it found my wifi connection immediately.

[Pawn Power]

I have my computer set up to duel boot with windoze xp on one half and ubuntu on the other. Ubuntu is much faster but I am not that well versed with it yet. I still cannot get streaming videos to run and it doesn&#39;t like my wireless card&#33;?

I really like how it is set up and organized but I might take me some time, which I don&#39;t have at the moment, to get a hold of the more complicated applications.

[blackstone]

I love Linux, been using it for years, specifically Slackware. But like you said, things arent as simple as download and it works&#33; Sometimes you have to download, compile, if it fails, tweak, if it fails, find out why it fails, fix the problem, compile, it fails, find out whats the new problem, fix it, compile then run. If you lie tweaking and fiddling you like it, but it gets annoyin fast.

[Red October]

Im not a diehard windows user or anything, but I couldn&#39;t handle Linux. I&#39;m not very good with highly technical matters on computers, so windows works fine for me. I also like Macs too. As long as there is a simple interface and I don&#39;t have to go through a lot of complicated shit to do what I need to, it&#39;s fine with me.

[which doctor]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 13, 2007 01:13 pm
Im not a diehard windows user or anything, but I couldn&#39;t handle Linux. I&#39;m not very good with highly technical matters on computers, so windows works fine for me. I also like Macs too. As long as there is a simple interface and I don&#39;t have to go through a lot of complicated shit to do what I need to, it&#39;s fine with me.
Ubuntu requires practically zero technical know-how.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

I dual-boot Windows XP and Kubuntu (Ubuntu with a KDE desktop environment) on my family PC, though we rarely use XP anymore. My brother is a major computer geek and he also runs Gentoo on it. On my own laptop, not a very impressive machine to say the least, I run Xubuntu (Ubuntu with the Xfce desktop environment). Xfce is purpose-built for old computers and laptops, being a very lightweight DE which runs perfectly when any other OS would run slowly.

[ComradeRed]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13, 2007 03:42 pm
I dual-boot Windows XP and Kubuntu (Ubuntu with a KDE desktop environment) on my family PC, though we rarely use XP anymore. My brother is a major computer geek and he also runs Gentoo on it. On my own laptop, not a very impressive machine to say the least, I run Xubuntu (Ubuntu with the Xfce desktop environment). Xfce is purpose-built for old computers and laptops, being a very lightweight DE which runs perfectly when any other OS would run slowly.
Gentoo is a better distribution, as is Mage/blah linux...because they compile the source code which optimizes the program for your box.

Compare this to binary packages, which are programs compiled for the worst processor (e.g. i386 instead of 686).

The thing is binary packages are faster to install, whereas compiled packages are better performance-wise.

P.S. Fluxbuntu is best of the *buntu family, failing Ubuntu Lite. Of course, Gentoo is king. And it goes without saying Solaris is far far far better with regards to stability. It has the ZFS file system after all&#33;

[Red Scare]

yeah i am thinking about switching to ubuntu, since it seems to be the best one...

[Red Scare]

http://firstfriday.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/400px-linux-tux-cccp.jpg :D

[Red Scare]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b8/Red_Flag_Linux_logo.png :D

[Red Scare]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 14, 2007 06:52 pm
http://firstfriday.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/400px-linux-tux-cccp.jpg :D
i set this as my desktop background :)

[Red Scare]

found linux called red flag linux it is sponsored by the chinese government and i wonder if it is good or not, anybody know?

[Le Libérer]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 14, 2007 07:58 pm
found linux called red flag linux it is sponsored by the chinese government and i wonder if it is good or not, anybody know?
Wow, never heard of it, sounds great tho. My only concern is it wouldnt be available in English.

[Red Scare]

Originally posted by Debora Aro+September 14, 2007 09:13 pm--> (Debora Aro @ September 14, 2007 09:13 pm)
Red [email protected] 14, 2007 07:58 pm
found linux called red flag linux it is sponsored by the chinese government and i wonder if it is good or not, anybody know?
Wow, never heard of it, sounds great tho. My only concern is it wouldnt be available in English. [/b]
i think u can get an english version, either that or when u install u can click the english option, but i am not sure

[Red Scare]

Originally posted by Red [email protected] 14, 2007 06:53 pm
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b8/Red_Flag_Linux_logo.png :D
this is the red flag linux logo

[Comrade Rage]

I&#39;m still learning about Linux and whether I&#39;ll switch or not. Windows is evil, I just use it out of convenience. Anyone reccommend a good way to learn about Linux.

[which doctor]

The best way to learn about Linux is to experience it first hand using a Linux Live CD. The OS runs right from the CD and it allows you to experience the different distros.

[Comrade Rage]

How do I get one?

[which doctor]

You can start here (http://www.livecdlist.com/) and choose a distro, then download the iso of it, burn that onto a disk, insert it into your computer, restart, and if all is well it should boot right up.

[blackstone]

http://www.distrowatch.com/

Ths website has a list of linux distros. Including a list of the most popular.

[blackstone]

Originally posted by ComradeRed+September 14, 2007 02:28 am--> (ComradeRed @ September 14, 2007 02:28 am)
[email protected] 13, 2007 03:42 pm
I dual-boot Windows XP and Kubuntu (Ubuntu with a KDE desktop environment) on my family PC, though we rarely use XP anymore. My brother is a major computer geek and he also runs Gentoo on it. On my own laptop, not a very impressive machine to say the least, I run Xubuntu (Ubuntu with the Xfce desktop environment). Xfce is purpose-built for old computers and laptops, being a very lightweight DE which runs perfectly when any other OS would run slowly.
Gentoo is a better distribution, as is Mage/blah linux...because they compile the source code which optimizes the program for your box.

Compare this to binary packages, which are programs compiled for the worst processor (e.g. i386 instead of 686).

The thing is binary packages are faster to install, whereas compiled packages are better performance-wise.

P.S. Fluxbuntu is best of the *buntu family, failing Ubuntu Lite. Of course, Gentoo is king. And it goes without saying Solaris is far far far better with regards to stability. It has the ZFS file system after all&#33; [/b]
That doesn&#39;t make it any better. Archlinux is optimized for i686 and has packages for the i686. So you don&#39;t have to waste a week to get a system up that can easily break a week later.

[MarxSchmarx]

. Finding drivers is a ***** generally.

Amen. This is especially true when trying to find your wireless connection, a BIG issue for laptop users. If you run into difficulties (depending on your laptop make) be sure to check out:

http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.ph...ghlight=bcm43xx (http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=156282&highlight=bcm43xx)

although it&#39;s far from perfect, as I can attest. Wireless issues are the #1 reason why I keep my dual boot w/ xp.

As far as advice goes, if you haven&#39;t done so already be sure to sign up at fedoraforum.org. I don&#39;t know how much experience you have with Fedora, but it can be quite idiosyncratic and counter-intuitive at times.

[My Heart is a Molotov]

I burnt a live cd for ubuntu and whenever i shut down my computer and turn it back or restart it, it doesn&#39;t seem to do what it&#39;s meant to do.

[Coprolal1an]

Actually, burning/booting froma cd is no longer required. There are a couple options you can use, and it will allow you to bypass setting up the bios to boot from cd/burning the cd in the first place:

http://wubi-installer.org/
http://goodbye-microsoft.com/

Both are executable fiels (exe/msi) and let you install a fully functioning linux distro (wubi = ubuntu, the latter is debian) without worring about partitioning for dual booting, setting up grub, etc. They do it all for you, and in fact they also set up the dual-boot between windows and linux (goodbye-microsoft one is faster btw).

I myself haven&#39;t touched windows for a couple years, I found the best way to lern, was to stop putting it off because "It&#39;s too hard". The best way is just to bight the bullet, and full-on install linux (though since the time when I did it--ubuntu 5.04--it is very much easier, and requires very little knowlege--expecially with the helpfull forum). Once you get a functioning linux install (which if you&#39;re never touched it before, could take anywhere from 1 hour to 2 days depending of how exotic your hardware is) you&#39;ve already overcome the greatest hurdle. From there you can begin to learn the workings of the graphical enviroment (bundled tools/WM) and eventually the behind-the-scenes workings.

Like I said, I started off on ubuntu 5.04, and I took it VERY casually, once it was installed I just used it without much reguard to the hidden workings. Since then, I&#39;ve tried Gentoo and freeBSD (currently on FreeBSD). Also, for those of you who have used it for a while, I highly recommend freeBSD--it is by far the best operating system I&#39;ve used--the speed is about as good (maybe a little bit slowler based on time command experience) as gentoo, and you don&#39;t have to compile. Ports is also a great package management system.

[Anti-Zionist]

I once tried Linux and found that it suckd. iMac OS X Leopard is the damn best OS there is.

[Red Scare]

Originally posted by Anti&#045;[email protected] 06, 2007 08:51 am
I once tried Linux and found that it suckd. iMac OS X Leopard is the damn best OS there is.
I run OSX, it gets the job done, but it just seems to be missing something, that is why I got fedora :).

[Anti-Zionist]

Originally posted by Red Scare+October 06, 2007 02:07 pm--> (Red Scare @ October 06, 2007 02:07 pm)
Anti&#045;[email protected] 06, 2007 08:51 am
I once tried Linux and found that it suckd. iMac OS X Leopard is the damn best OS there is.
I run OSX, it gets the job done, but it just seems to be missing something, that is why I got fedora :). [/b]
Problem with Linux is that it&#39;s hard to find technical help with it for networking and that i haven&#39;t come across any printers that there are no installation CD&#39;s created for Linux.

[rocker935]

Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2007 05:15 am
Actually, burning/booting froma cd is no longer required. There are a couple options you can use, and it will allow you to bypass setting up the bios to boot from cd/burning the cd in the first place:

http://wubi-installer.org/
http://goodbye-microsoft.com/

Both are executable fiels (exe/msi) and let you install a fully functioning linux distro (wubi = ubuntu, the latter is debian) without worring about partitioning for dual booting, setting up grub, etc. They do it all for you, and in fact they also set up the dual-boot between windows and linux (goodbye-microsoft one is faster btw).

I myself haven&#39;t touched windows for a couple years, I found the best way to lern, was to stop putting it off because "It&#39;s too hard". The best way is just to bight the bullet, and full-on install linux (though since the time when I did it--ubuntu 5.04--it is very much easier, and requires very little knowlege--expecially with the helpfull forum). Once you get a functioning linux install (which if you&#39;re never touched it before, could take anywhere from 1 hour to 2 days depending of how exotic your hardware is) you&#39;ve already overcome the greatest hurdle. From there you can begin to learn the workings of the graphical enviroment (bundled tools/WM) and eventually the behind-the-scenes workings.

Like I said, I started off on ubuntu 5.04, and I took it VERY casually, once it was installed I just used it without much reguard to the hidden workings. Since then, I&#39;ve tried Gentoo and freeBSD (currently on FreeBSD). Also, for those of you who have used it for a while, I highly recommend freeBSD--it is by far the best operating system I&#39;ve used--the speed is about as good (maybe a little bit slowler based on time command experience) as gentoo, and you don&#39;t have to compile. Ports is also a great package management system.
Great post, totally forgot about wubi. I highley reccommend Wubi to the beginners. Doesn&#39;t mess with your computer. it installs easily just like any other program.

[Coprolal1an]

Originally posted by Anti&#045;Zionist+October 06, 2007 02:11 pm--> (Anti-Zionist @ October 06, 2007 02:11 pm)
Originally posted by Red [email protected] 06, 2007 02:07 pm

Anti&#045;[email protected] 06, 2007 08:51 am
I once tried Linux and found that it suckd. iMac OS X Leopard is the damn best OS there is.
I run OSX, it gets the job done, but it just seems to be missing something, that is why I got fedora :).
Problem with Linux is that it&#39;s hard to find technical help with it for networking and that i haven&#39;t come across any printers that there are no installation CD&#39;s created for Linux. [/b]
It&#39;s actually very easy to get technical support for linux, I&#39;m not sure what you&#39;re talking about--beside the very active support forums (e.g. ubuntu forums), many linux-oriented companies sell professional tech support.



I once tried Linux and found that it suckd. iMac OS X Leopard is the damn best OS there is.


Um.... what? You obviousely don&#39;t know what you&#39;re talking about. First off, Mac (not iMac, that&#39;s a model of computer) OS X is based off of Darwin, which is based off of Mach/freeBSD kernel--Mac OS X can be thought of as aqua (A GUI alternative to X.org) on top of darwin, in a nutshell. Mac OS X, as apple said, uses Unix technology, which Linux is very much based off (not directly, but in terms of everything is a file, etc). How about this, restart your computer, and hold Apple+S, getting you into single user mode, a (sh?) prompt--look anything like what you meant when you said linux &#39;suckd&#39;?

Also, I&#39;m guessing you didn&#39;t bother to check FAQ&#39;s on linux, nor did you bother reading up on what you were doing, and downloaded some random boot disk from somewhere (Gentoo boot disk?), put it in, and were like WUT?? You *really* need to figure out what you&#39;re going to want in a linux distro, which since you are refering to &#39;linux&#39; in such a way, I&#39;m guessing you assumed all distros were the same or something...

I wouldn&#39;t buy some beaten up car, ahve it crash, and then say &#39;I once tried cars and found that it suckd&#39;

[Cult of Reason]

I use Debian with Xfce. APT is brilliant.

The only problems I currently have are: wireless card not working (I use ethernet, though, despite this being a laptop), partly because I haven&#39;t got around to learning how to properly unzip tar.gz files, but mostly because I am completely lost when it comes to wireless anyway, and I have recently broken swf-player. I don&#39;t know how thins happened, but I can no longer use YouTube or anything. :(

[Coprolal1an]

The only problems I currently have are: wireless card not working (I use ethernet, though, despite this being a laptop)
Do you know the model of the card?
http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&...=utf-8&oe=utf-8 (http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=setting+up+wireless+card+debian&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)


partly because I haven&#39;t got around to learning how to properly unzip tar.gz files
To get help on a command, do "ma command", as in
&#036; man tar
that will give you detailed instructions on use. Anyway, to untar files, use
&#036; tar -xzf file.tar.gz


I have recently broken swf-player. I don&#39;t know how thins happened, but I can no longer use YouTube or anything. :(
Try removing firefox:
&#036; sudo apt-get remove firefox
&#036; sudo apt-get install firefox
and see if that fixes it. Another method, change browsers--Opera is faster and comes with flash
&#036; sudo apt-get install opera

Also, generally speaking, if you post your problems on a linux message board, you will get a good answer.

[Pawn Power]

I use ubuntu. The problem with it is that windows really does not put an effort out to make things compatable, probably since they see ubuntu as compitition, so some thing become tricky like saving files and bringing them to another computer. Of course, the ubuntu is able to convert most things coming in from windows thouhg that is not the case the other way around.

[Intelligitimate]

It should be possible to get nearly any wireless card up and running with NDISwrapper.

http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/

[JRR883]

Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2007 06:50 pm

The only problems I currently have are: wireless card not working (I use ethernet, though, despite this being a laptop)
Do you know the model of the card?
http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&...=utf-8&oe=utf-8 (http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=setting+up+wireless+card+debian&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)


partly because I haven&#39;t got around to learning how to properly unzip tar.gz files
To get help on a command, do "ma command", as in
&#036; man tar
that will give you detailed instructions on use. Anyway, to untar files, use
&#036; tar -xzf file.tar.gz


I have recently broken swf-player. I don&#39;t know how thins happened, but I can no longer use YouTube or anything. :(
Try removing firefox:
&#036; sudo apt-get remove firefox
&#036; sudo apt-get install firefox
and see if that fixes it. Another method, change browsers--Opera is faster and comes with flash
&#036; sudo apt-get install opera

Also, generally speaking, if you post your problems on a linux message board, you will get a good answer.
Unlike in Windows, uninstalling and reinstalling a program doesn&#39;t usually fix a problem, especially if they&#39;re the same binary. As for the broken swf-player, try using Automatix (http://www.getautomatix.com) to install Flash. That is if you&#39;re using a Debian-based distro. If you&#39;re using an RPM based distro, I&#39;d say install the package Adobe provides for Mozilla browsers.

Also, in regards to wireless cards, if you have a choice, get the Intel Pro wireless card with your laptop. If you have a newer laptop with mini-PCI Express, just get the card (&#036;60 or so) and plug it in. I&#39;m using wireless on my Thinkpad right now. If you don&#39;t have the option to get it, run lspci and look for your wireless card, Google it, and find out if there are drivers out for it. If it&#39;s an Atheros chipset, the Madwifi kernel module should work for it.

Anyway, I&#39;ve used Linux for a few years now. First Slackware (big mistake), then Mandrake, then Fedora, now I&#39;m addicted to Ubuntu. Hell, I still used Linux when I was a major neo-liberal. Now that I&#39;m a revolutionary leftist, it just gives me more reason to use FOSS.

[Coprolal1an]

Originally posted by JRR883+October 07, 2007 01:12 pm--> (JRR883 @ October 07, 2007 01:12 pm)
[email protected] 06, 2007 06:50 pm

The only problems I currently have are: wireless card not working (I use ethernet, though, despite this being a laptop)
Do you know the model of the card?
http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&...=utf-8&oe=utf-8 (http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=setting+up+wireless+card+debian&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)


partly because I haven&#39;t got around to learning how to properly unzip tar.gz files
To get help on a command, do "ma command", as in
&#036; man tar
that will give you detailed instructions on use. Anyway, to untar files, use
&#036; tar -xzf file.tar.gz


I have recently broken swf-player. I don&#39;t know how thins happened, but I can no longer use YouTube or anything. :(
Try removing firefox:
&#036; sudo apt-get remove firefox
&#036; sudo apt-get install firefox
and see if that fixes it. Another method, change browsers--Opera is faster and comes with flash
&#036; sudo apt-get install opera

Also, generally speaking, if you post your problems on a linux message board, you will get a good answer.
Unlike in Windows, uninstalling and reinstalling a program doesn&#39;t usually fix a problem, especially if they&#39;re the same binary. As for the broken swf-player, try using Automatix (http://www.getautomatix.com) to install Flash. That is if you&#39;re using a Debian-based distro. If you&#39;re using an RPM based distro, I&#39;d say install the package Adobe provides for Mozilla browsers.

Also, in regards to wireless cards, if you have a choice, get the Intel Pro wireless card with your laptop. If you have a newer laptop with mini-PCI Express, just get the card (&#036;60 or so) and plug it in. I&#39;m using wireless on my Thinkpad right now. If you don&#39;t have the option to get it, run lspci and look for your wireless card, Google it, and find out if there are drivers out for it. If it&#39;s an Atheros chipset, the Madwifi kernel module should work for it.

Anyway, I&#39;ve used Linux for a few years now. First Slackware (big mistake), then Mandrake, then Fedora, now I&#39;m addicted to Ubuntu. Hell, I still used Linux when I was a major neo-liberal. Now that I&#39;m a revolutionary leftist, it just gives me more reason to use FOSS. [/b]
Re-installing apps has fixed them for me, but that&#39;s only when I fuck something up--resetting the configuraton can fix the app if thats the problem (He said he broke it, so I assume he did something to the configuration..). I haven&#39;t used the apt package management in a while, so I can&#39;t quite remember for shure if re-installing the app reinstalls the config, but it cant hurt.

[Cult of Reason]

The card is RaLink. I might have already got the software working, but it was not then immediately obvious how to get things working, and I really did not need it, so...

The main problem re: tar.gz is where exactly to extract things to.

Firefox (well... Iceweasel. This is Debian after all... ;) ) is not the problem. The problem is swf-player, or something interfering with it. Flash does not work, either, for Konqueror or Galeon.

[My Heart is a Molotov]

Thanks heaps for pointing me in the direction of wubi. I have ubuntu working on my other hard drive, except still unable to get the internet to work on it. My wireless adapter isn&#39;t working with it, and i found some sites with instructions on fixing the problem and tried them but still couldn&#39;t get it to work.

[Intelligitimate]

Type in the terminal sudo apt-get swf-player.

Or follow these instructions:

http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/st...sh/English.html (http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/static/Linux/ShockwaveFlash/English.html)

[blackstone]

Originally posted by [email protected] 07, 2007 08:46 pm
The card is RaLink. I might have already got the software working, but it was not then immediately obvious how to get things working, and I really did not need it, so...

The main problem re: tar.gz is where exactly to extract things to.

Firefox (well... Iceweasel. This is Debian after all... ;) ) is not the problem. The problem is swf-player, or something interfering with it. Flash does not work, either, for Konqueror or Galeon.
What do you mean where to extract things to?

Extract it in a folder where ever you downloaded the compressed file. Say you downloaded it in home, tar -zxvf whatever.tar.gz

then there should be a folder called, whatever, in your home folder. Now go into whatever, read the README and CONFIG files. Usually all you have to do is

./config
make
su to root

make install

but that&#39;s how i do it on slackware.

usually if i have a problem with linux, i google it, cuz 9 times outta 10, someone else has the same issue and has gotten it solved already.

For wireless, i use ndiswrapper.

[Revolucija]

I think that if you really want to learn Linux, you should try Linux from scratch or start making customized distribution ;)

Btw. anyone using Dell Wireless 1390 card with Linux/some unix?

[Wilfred]

Hopefully this piece will inspire the people here to run linux
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-free.html

[cenv]

Originally posted by [email protected] 18, 2007 01:17 pm
I think that if you really want to learn Linux, you should try Linux from scratch or start making customized distribution ;)

Btw. anyone using Dell Wireless 1390 card with Linux/some unix?
I used to use a Dell Wireless card with Linux, not sure if it was the same model. Have you tried NDISWrapper?

[Revolucija]

Well, it works okay, but I would like to use programs like Aircrack - it doesn;t work with aircrack, I tried a patch for my chipset but it failed again. So have you used applications like this?

[Anti-Zionist]

I&#39;m currently on a Mandriva Live CD.

[Anti-Zionist]

Originally posted by COMRADE [email protected] 15, 2007 03:40 pm
I&#39;m still learning about Linux and whether I&#39;ll switch or not. Windows is evil, I just use it out of convenience. Anyone reccommend a good way to learn about Linux.
Just try out Live CD&#39;s. Mandriva is amazing, even from Live CD it&#39;s faster than WIndows.

512 RAM on Windows is like 256 RAM on Linux, this is an example to show you how fast it is.

www.thelinuxshop.co.uk - you get free delivery and you can try out many distros. You can buy 6 live CD&#39;s for £15&#33; Then if you like a distro you can install it. One OS on windows costs £100 - £300, why have that when you can try linux free or have a Live/Install CD shipped to you in two days for three and only costing you £3.50 - £4?

I&#39;d recommend Mandriva strongley. It comes with:
Openofffice - word processor, spreadsheet and 4/5 other documents which are 10/10 and replicas to Microsoft office. Or you can choose KDE or GNOME.

Kopete messenger - you can connect to any Instant messenger

Konqueror - fast web browser which also can go through your documents

Firefox - fast web browser

GIMP image editor - Photoshop only has a few more features, other than that they are very similar

Then you have DVDD player and two Media players&#33; And the list goes on and on.

[Faux Real]

Oh my god.

Prelude: A few weeks/months ago I had downloaded the Debian installer, and hadn&#39;t received the prompt to finalize the installation on a reboot until last night.

I had a blue screen of death yesterday after getting some type of RAM error. On the reboot, I noticed the Debian option at the Recovery Options screen, and like an idiot I chose it. So it takes almost an hour to finish and I finally notice my HD was wiped out, and there was no dual boot option like I had originally envisaged.

To make things worse, the account I set up (not root) got screwed by me. I set something in my account settings to work in the wrong folder, causing me on my next restart to not be able to login with the only profile that had an active GNOME interface. Now everything I do has to come from the lame root console. -_- :(

Ah well, I probably deserved it for not getting off the PC early enough to sleep.

I&#39;m probably going to have to reformat my HD again and remove most partitions manually through DOS which I have no clue how to do yet.

Now to wait a month or two for my PCs manufacturer to send help.

All this after I had changed my mind about installing Linux, mostly due to my dependency on Windows-Only apps and my overall laziness.

[lvleph]

I have been working on getting Nux to work on my laptop for a couple years now. Recently, I have been trying Wubi, but I am having a lot of trouble with 7.10. However, it seems that someone has fixed a lot my issues with 7.04, so I think I may try that. I would prefer not to use the windows installer, but I need dual boot, and messing with GRUB is a pain IMO.

[Coprolal1an]

If people are too lazy to spend time learning about a community alternative to a crappy product by a near-monopolistic capitlist company,

how are they supposed to spawn a communist revolution?

[Faux Real]

Originally posted by [email protected] 20, 2007 08:22 pm
If people are too lazy to spend time learning about a community alternative to a crappy product by a near-monopolistic capitlist company,

how are they supposed to spawn a communist revolution?
Wouldn&#39;t Micro&#036;oft become a collective after a communist revolution anyway? :rolleyes:

Like my unwillingness/inability at the moment to learn unix code hinders the communist movement. <_<

I&#39;ve just bought a few games that are windows-only, though I know there are a few emulators that could probably run them. I&#39;d just rather turn on EZ-mode (aka windoze).

[Coprolal1an]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2007 04:30 am
I&#39;ve just bought a few games...windows-only...I&#39;d just rather turn on EZ-mode (aka windoze).
So then, you&#39;re not using something made by the community, because using &#036;100 software by microsoft is easier for running games that you bought?

lulz. There are plenty of community made, free games which are just as good as the ones you buy anyway.

[Faux Real]

Okay so I got rid of my old messed up account and created a new one using root (finally learned how). Looks like I&#39;ll give Debian a 2nd try.

I&#39;ll try using the windows apps with Wine/Cedega.

Also need to setup my damn soundcard, can&#39;t find out howto yet.

If I can run those games on here I&#39;ll likely stick with this.

There are plenty of community made, free games which are just as good as the ones you buy anyway.
When I buy it&#39;s only subscription/online based games--otherwise it&#39;s bittorrent for me. ;)

God I miss CS:S/BF2... for now.

[dirgenightingale]

I&#39;ll try using the windows apps with Wine/Cedega.
wine doesn&#39;t emulate everything (particularly games that need direct x).


Also need to setup my damn soundcard, can&#39;t find out howto yet.
what&#39;s your problem? maybe i can help. otherwise, try linuxquestions.org


If I can run those games on here I&#39;ll likely stick with this.
what games? if they use direct x, probably not. the linux community has yet to reverse program direct x, so wine doesn&#39;t run games that use it. the only recourse at the moment is to buy wine x, which has compatibility for direct x (they paid for it).


When I buy it&#39;s only subscription/online based games--otherwise it&#39;s bittorrent for me. ;)
me too.

personally, i dual boot slackware linux and windoze. then i can use linux for almost everything and still play games. also, i don&#39;t pay for windoze (don&#39;t ask me how), so i&#39;m not supporting that giant or paying money just to play games.

[lvleph]

I am currently running Ubuntu with QEMU emulation of Windows XP for those things I need windows for. Just got it all set up again.

[Robespierre2.0]

Hey guise, how do I install ubuntu on my mac laptop? (I&#39;m currently running OS X 10.4.10)
I downloaded the version of ubuntu for 64bit AMD and Intel computers (I&#39;m assuming that&#39;s what I have, because my computer has an intel processor)

Anyways, I&#39;ve got the disk image, and there&#39;s a &#39;start.exe&#39; in there, but I&#39;m using a mac, and therefore cannot use .exe files.
HALP&#33;&#33;

[BOZG]

I&#39;m not a mac user so I&#39;m not sure how good this is but try it anyway. http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-148617.html

[lvleph]

It is probably a live cd. Which means you reboot your computer and boot to the cd. Once you have booted to the cd you will be in ubuntu. It is not persistent, meaning you cannot save anything. Anyway, you should see a little drive looking thing on the desktop that says install. Click that.

Before you install, play around with ubuntu and see if it works. There may be some drivers that don&#39;t just work out of the box, and so you will need to figure out how to fix all that. It might be worth your time finding all that out before you go ahead and install.

[Coprolal1an]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28, 2007 02:08 am
I am currently running Ubuntu with QEMU emulation of Windows XP for those things I need windows for. Just got it all set up again.
It would be more efficient to use tinyxp ;)

TinyXP,for those who don&#39;tknow, is windows xp with lots of crap stripped down, so it runs on minimal hardware (still plays games though).

You can get it via bittorrent.

[Robespierre2.0]

Grrrrr.. I burnt it onto a CD and booted it up, but it says I need a 32-bit distribution (tried to run a 64-bit distribution on an intel core duo, lol whoops).
As far as I can tell, the Ubuntu site doesn&#39;t even mention bit distribution on the download page. Where the bloody hell do I find this 32-bit version?

[lvleph]

I switched to using vmware and using that to run my native xp. Qemu had too many problems.


Grrrrr.. I burnt it onto a CD and booted it up, but it says I need a 32-bit distribution (tried to run a 64-bit distribution on an intel core duo, lol whoops).
As far as I can tell, the Ubuntu site doesn&#39;t even mention bit distribution on the download page. Where the bloody hell do I find this 32-bit version?
It is the one that has 86 at the end. On this page just leave the selection the way it is and download. (http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download)

Or just click this link. (http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/7.10/ubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso)

How to (http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-148617.html)

[ComradeRed]

Originally posted by [email protected] 04, 2007 08:21 pm
It would be more efficient to use tinyxp ;)

TinyXP,for those who don&#39;tknow, is windows xp with lots of crap stripped down, so it runs on minimal hardware (still plays games though).

You can get it via bittorrent.
Bah XP, in all its forms, is crap.

It has an inferior file system, a sub-par virtual file system, it&#39;s system call framework is convoluted, and even TinyXP is far more bloated than Damn Small Linux.

Thanks but no thanks, I&#39;d take Linux over XP any day.

[lvleph]

Originally posted by ComradeRed+December 06, 2007 11:11 pm--> (ComradeRed @ December 06, 2007 11:11 pm)
[email protected] 04, 2007 08:21 pm
It would be more efficient to use tinyxp ;)

TinyXP,for those who don&#39;tknow, is windows xp with lots of crap stripped down, so it runs on minimal hardware (still plays games though).

You can get it via bittorrent.
Bah XP, in all its forms, is crap.

It has an inferior file system, a sub-par virtual file system, it&#39;s system call framework is convoluted, and even TinyXP is far more bloated than Damn Small Linux.

Thanks but no thanks, I&#39;d take Linux over XP any day. [/b]
I think you missed the point of his post. There are those that need windows for whatever reason. I need it for banking, and a couple other things. So I was using VMWare to run my native XP under Ubuntu. What he was suggesting was that I use tinyxp as an image and run it that way. It would be more efficient, because of its small size. As soon as I find it, I will try it out.

[lvleph]

Originally posted by Marxosaurus [email protected] 05, 2007 07:34 am
Grrrrr.. I burnt it onto a CD and booted it up, but it says I need a 32-bit distribution (tried to run a 64-bit distribution on an intel core duo, lol whoops).
As far as I can tell, the Ubuntu site doesn&#39;t even mention bit distribution on the download page. Where the bloody hell do I find this 32-bit version?
Did you get it working?

[Robespierre2.0]

Originally posted by [email protected] 07, 2007 04:24 pm

Did you get it working? [/quote]
I did&#33; Thank you, comrade&#33;

[BuyOurEverything]

I&#39;m trying to set up a double boot with Ubuntu and XP (currently running just XP) but I can&#39;t figure out how to set up another partition. I know Ubuntu is supposed to be able to do it but I can&#39;t figure out how and I don&#39;t really want to go fucking around with my hard drive because I don&#39;t have the XP disc if something goes wrong. Can anyone give me a straight simple answer on this? It would be greatly appreciated.

[ComradeRed]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11, 2007 12:07 pm
I&#39;m trying to set up a double boot with Ubuntu and XP (currently running just XP) but I can&#39;t figure out how to set up another partition. I know Ubuntu is supposed to be able to do it but I can&#39;t figure out how and I don&#39;t really want to go fucking around with my hard drive because I don&#39;t have the XP disc if something goes wrong. Can anyone give me a straight simple answer on this? It would be greatly appreciated.
When going through the installation process with Ubuntu what happens is it works as a live cd which means it loads the Linux environment from the CD.

From this loaded environment, you can install Ubuntu to your hard drive. When going through the process, there is a partition step. It allows you to decide how much space you&#39;d like to allow for the pre-existing partition.

If you&#39;re really paranoid, download TinyXP from some bittorrent site, and burn it to a CD. That way you have a back up ;)

[lvleph]

Yeah, I got TinyXP so I could virtualize, but now my original native install doesn&#39;t work. I think it may have had a virus. However, no I cannot get the virtualization to work either. I get the same error. I am doing a very odd thing, I am running an antivirus in linux, so I can see if there is one.

[ComradeRed]

Why not:

1) Post up the problem verbatim
2) (if all else fails) ask your local Linux Users Group?

[Wilfred]

Yeah, I got TinyXP so I could virtualize, but now my original native install doesn't work. I think it may have had a virus. However, no I cannot get the virtualization to work either. I get the same error. I am doing a very odd thing, I am running an antivirus in linux, so I can see if there is one.
This is odd, I have run linux for years and never had need of a virusscanner. I think you should post the errormessage on the board of your linuxdistribution.

[Pawn Power]

Can Linux finally unite Korea?

Along with political cooperation, Seoul's plan to help the North with IT could shatter the last Cold War boundary
---
Under the banner of "Hana Linux" - literally "One" Linux - the two countries have agreed to work on a groundbreaking IT development project that might shatter the final Cold War boundary.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jan/17/linux.korea

[MarxSchmarx]

http://www.revleft.com/vb/../images/icons/icon1.gif
I'm trying to set up a double boot with Ubuntu and XP (currently running just XP) but I can't figure out how to set up another partition. I know Ubuntu is supposed to be able to do it but I can't figure out how and I don't really want to go fucking around with my hard drive because I don't have the XP disc if something goes wrong. Can anyone give me a straight simple answer on this? It would be greatly appreciated.

The "straight, simple answer" is to get PartitionMagic's trial version or borrow it from a buddy:p. This program is pretty idiot-proof and works on NTFS and FAT.

There is also this free program called partition logic but I've never used it. If you try it out let me know how it works.

[apathy maybe]

For all those using some Debian based X/GNU/Linux based system (such as Ubuntu), and having trouble with DVDs or other media...

http://www.medibuntu.org/

Follow the instructions to add this repository, and then the instructions to find libdvdcss (or whatever it is called).

FUCK REGION CODING!

(Oh, and I've got Ubuntu 7.10)

[which doctor]

The "straight, simple answer" is to get PartitionMagic's trial version or borrow it from a buddy:p. This program is pretty idiot-proof and works on NTFS and FAT.

There is also this free program called partition logic but I've never used it. If you try it out let me know how it works.

Ubuntu has partition software I think called GParted or something like that. I've used it before and it's pretty easy.

[queerpaganarchist]

I've been using Ubuntu ever since Windows XP pissed me off one too many times... I absolutely love it and will not go back.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

I use Xandros. My EEE PC came with it. It works well.

[Aduro]

I run Ubuntu on one of my computers, but I don't go on as often as I should.
I think the whole open source movement is excellent :D

[Awful Reality]

I've toyed around with Ubuntu.

I like OS X best, sadly, because open source is way less capitalist.

[bezdomni]

I like OS X best, sadly, because open source is way less capitalist.

Sorry? How is OS X open-source? Can you find the source code for the OS X kernel?

As a person who switched from OS X (tiger) to GNU+Linux (ubuntu), I can tell you that there is a substantial difference between the openness of the two systems.

OS X is much better than windows, but that is because it's a unix-like OS (or, in the case of leopard, it is a UNIX OS).

If you are ideologically inclined towards FOSS, mac OS X is not where it's at. Try Ubuntu or one of the hundreds of other GNU+Linux distros.

[Qwerty Dvorak]

Sorry? How is OS X open-source? Can you find the source code for the OS X kernel?
I think he meant that the reason his preferring OS X is "sad" is because it is not open-source.

Question: I'm using Kubunbtu 7.10 and I just got an iPod, is there any way to get iTunes to work with WINE maybe, or is there a Linux-compatible equivalent to iTunes? I heard you can get an add-on to Amarok which allows you to put music on an iPod, is this true?

[professorchaos]

Woo! Ubuntu forever. The revolutionary OS. The great thing about Linux is that everything actually works like it's supposed to, more or less. And if it doesn't, someone usually fixes it.

[Coprolal1an]

I think that amaroK suports the ipod. I myself love amaroK. Try googling ipod on ubuntu--there are loads of community made guides, like this one > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=103071.

As far as OS X, believe it or not, is IS based on open source software. OS X is basically aqua on top of open darwin, which uses a kernel formed from mach and freebsd 4.

[ComradeRed]

As far as OS X, believe it or not, is IS based on open source software. OS X is basically aqua on top of open darwin, which uses a kernel formed from mach and freebsd 4. It's not entirely open source, a lot of the binary bits to the kernel that aren't optimize certain features.

And it's an amalgam of Mach 3 and FreeBSD 5.x as a modular kernel, not a microkernel contrary to popular belief...

[Awful Reality]

Sorry? How is OS X open-source? Can you find the source code for the OS X kernel?

As a person who switched from OS X (tiger) to GNU+Linux (ubuntu), I can tell you that there is a substantial difference between the openness of the two systems.

OS X is much better than windows, but that is because it's a unix-like OS (or, in the case of leopard, it is a UNIX OS).

If you are ideologically inclined towards FOSS, mac OS X is not where it's at. Try Ubuntu or one of the hundreds of other GNU+Linux distros.

Let me rephrase that: I like OS X Better, which I find sad, because I ideologically should like open source better. The sadly inflicts that it is not open source.

[Red Blue Pen]

Ubuntu was one of the many things that led me to become a Socialist.

[bezdomni]

Question: I'm using Kubunbtu 7.10 and I just got an iPod, is there any way to get iTunes to work with WINE maybe, or is there a Linux-compatible equivalent to iTunes? I heard you can get an add-on to Amarok which allows you to put music on an iPod, is this true?

First of all, there is no way that I know of to get iTunes to work through WINE. That said, there is also no reason that I can think of as to why you'd want to do that.

Amarok should work with your ipod out of the box. Go to settings->configure amarok->media devices and then see if it picks up your iPod (which obviously should be plugged in).

Amarok automatically opens when I plug in an iPod or media device.

Also, I recommend replacing the Apple Ipod firmware with Rockbox (FOSS firmware for various media devices).

go to www.rockbox.org and check it out

[Asoka89]

I really want to switch over my laptop (Dell Vostro running Vista) over to Linux but im worried about finding wireless drivers that would work any site with a Ubuntu driver database someone can point me to

[bezdomni]

I really want to switch over my laptop (Dell Vostro running Vista) over to Linux but im worried about finding wireless drivers that would work any site with a Ubuntu driver database someone can point me to

What kind of wireless card do you have? I'd say there's a 90% probability it'll work out of the box, and if not...it's a simple matter to configure it.

[welshboy]

Amarok 1.4 does not support the newer iPods but works fine with older models.
Amarok 2 which is due out some time this year, and looks really nice - I was faffing with it whilst I was testing out KDE 4, has support for iTunes so I would imagine it works with the newer iPods too.
iPods suck though, why not try and get a media player that plays all formats and doesn't tie you in to any proprietary nonsense? As soon as I can afford it I'm going to get myself an iriver (http://www.iriver.com/) which plays pretty much everything including ogg vorbis.

RE: Dell Vostro and Linux. From a quick google it appears that the drivers for the vostro wireless chipset aren't included in the Kernel and you have to have a copy of the proprietary drivers and ndiswrapper to get the wireless to work.
There are guides on how to do this here (http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=739286) and here (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_Vostro_1500).
Though as you didn't mention which sort of vostro you have the instructions maybe wrong.
A tip for finding tips on linux: When you google a problem always include the phrase 'howto' in the search and you should be able to find detailed instructions on pretty much anything. Apart from extracting data from a .mdb file to an open format :(

[BOZG]

How's everyone getting along with Hardy (if you've upgraded)?

Apart from some periodic conflict that Kopete seems to be having with Ubuntu for me, everything's working fantastically.

[welshboy]

Does Hardy come with KDE 4?
I use Mandriva 2008 myself, I'm going to wait for the next KDE release myself before upgrading. Not a fan of Ubuntu but the community support is quite frankly amazing.
Have you tried gaim for IM?

[bobroberts]

I really want to switch over my laptop (Dell Vostro running Vista) over to Linux but im worried about finding wireless drivers that would work any site with a Ubuntu driver database someone can point me to

I have a vostro and Ubuntu 8.04 can download and use the proprietary driver if the open source driver doesn't work.

[BOZG]

Does Hardy come with KDE 4?
I use Mandriva 2008 myself, I'm going to wait for the next KDE release myself before upgrading. Not a fan of Ubuntu but the community support is quite frankly amazing.
Have you tried gaim for IM?

The standard release of Kubuntu comes with KDE 3 but there's a KDE 4 remix available which I'm using on my secondary desktop.

The community support is probably even better than the OS itself.

I never really liked GAIM or Pidgin. I'd much rather stick with Kopete though it's currently looking like I'll need to go back to Pidgin for the time being.

[MarxSchmarx]

Anybody have a crack at fedora 9? I'm going to upgrade over the weekend and wanted to know if there is anything I should fear.

[bezdomni]

How's everyone getting along with Hardy (if you've upgraded)?

Apart from some periodic conflict that Kopete seems to be having with Ubuntu for me, everything's working fantastically.

It completely fucked all of my settings in /etc/xorg.conf and left me without a GUI for two days, and even then when I finally was able to boot into GNOME my graphics card wasn't working properly and it took another few days to actually get the goddamn drivers working properly.

Other than that, the only other problem has been that there doesn't seem to be a driver that works with my wireless card through hardy somehow. The method I used in gutsy doesn't work anymore....so I might actually switch back to gutsy for a while or switch to debian.

[Le Libérer]

Other than that, the only other problem has been that there doesn't seem to be a driver that works with my wireless card through hardy somehow. The method I used in gutsy doesn't work anymore....so I might actually switch back to gutsy for a while or switch to debian.
You didnt duel boot with windows?

I'm contemplating installing the latest ubuntu, but fear what will happened trying to duel boot with Vista. Does anyone here know the horrors that await me? Any one else had the fortitude to attempt this? Are you now convinced I'm out of my mind? Dont answer the last question.

My ex crashed his Vista when he tried to paritition it with Fedora, and ended up going with just Fedora. So I'm off to the message boards, it is RS2Ks machine I'm working on.

Debora,
Yup a girl who runs linux

[MarxSchmarx]

I'm contemplating installing the latest ubuntu, but fear what will happened trying to duel boot with Vista. Does anyone here know the horrors that await me? Any one else had the fortitude to attempt this? Are you now convinced I'm out of my mind? Dont answer the last question.

My ex crashed his Vista when he tried to paritition it with Fedora, and ended up going with just Fedora. So I'm off to the message boards, it is RS2Ks machine I'm working on.


Well, first make sure you have a recovery disk available and back up your data. I mean, nobody makes mistakes, ever. Your installed OS is XP, right? If you're starting with a linux machine I actually understand it is easier but I've only done XP-> dual boot with Linux rather than the otherway around.

Anywho, you need to partition your hard-drive first using a program like partition magic. There's an open source program that does this so if you go that way let me know how it went? I think it's called partition logic.

Once you have a partition, you can actually set your linux to install in that partition that doesn't contain xp or the backup.

Anyhow I did this for my job and I haven't had any problems. You shoudl most definitely read up on it first and there are a mountain of guides onlien about how to do it.

[ckaihatsu]

Just got Linux Mint 4.0 up and running -- am liking it >>> a lot <<<

Very good, all around...!

linuxmint.com


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[MarxSchmarx]

I'm contemplating installing the latest ubuntu, but fear what will happened trying to duel boot with Vista. Does anyone here know the horrors that await me? Any one else had the fortitude to attempt this? Are you now convinced I'm out of my mind? Dont answer the last question.

My ex crashed his Vista when he tried to paritition it with Fedora, and ended up going with just Fedora. So I'm off to the message boards, it is RS2Ks machine I'm working on.
So recently I found out about this program called WuBi

http://wubi-installer.org/

It ain't too shabby as far as dual boot stuff go, I recommend this is you don't want to screw around with the partitioning crap.

It completely fucked all of my settings in /etc/xorg.conf and left me without a GUI for two days, and even then when I finally was able to boot into GNOME my graphics card wasn't working properly and it took another few days to actually get the goddamn drivers working properly.


Yeah I did this too (though the outcome didn't suck as much) ...If I recall, the way to get around this was something like:
md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >| /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

;)

[ckaihatsu]

Mozilla Fixes Memory And CPU Problems In Firefox 3 Beta 1

Posted by Mitch Wagner, Nov 26, 2007 07:39 PM

Mozilla.org says it fixed a problem with Firefox 3 Beta 1 that caused it to spike CPU usage and eat hundreds of megabytes of RAM. The fix involved changing the configuration of a server that Firefox communicates with, so you don't have to download a new version to take advantage of it.

The bug affects Firefox installations with very outdated lists of bad sites for the phishing protection and malware protection features of the browser, according to a report on Mozillazine.. It also affects installations that have no list of bad sites at all. "Firefox is trying to bring down these rather large lists in one big chunk rather than slowly in small chunks. This causes Firefox to consume large amounts of CPU and memory and can slow the users machine to a crawl," according to the blog author, Asa Dotzler, community coordinator of Firefox marketing projects.

Dotzler said he thinks that was the cause of a problem I encountered running Firefox 3 Beta 1 on a five-year-old Compaq laptop, where Firefox 3 B1 ran so slowly as to be useless, even though Firefox 2 runs fine. I haven't tested it out on that machine to see if the problem is, indeed fixed. I've been using Firefox 3 B1 as my production browser since I installed it Wednesday, the day it became available, and I've found it to be very stable, even though others have reported problems.

http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/11/mozilla_fixes_m.html

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If you're going to install Blag 9000, skip it and make sure to upgrade to the patched Blag 9001 (It's at distrowatch.com)