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Acolyte Of Death
12th July 2003, 20:25
Now we all know that the Nazis were short for what in German meant National Socialist Worker's Party, but what is the ideology of National Socialism itself? What are its ideals, its social values, and organisational beliefs? I've not much knowledge of it, so would someone please enlighten me?

stonerboi
12th July 2003, 20:42
National Socialism (NS) is an attempt to popularise ultra-nationalism amongst the working classes by giving it a radical socialist hue without the internationalism that goes with it. Before the rise of the NSDAP in Germany, nationalism had only been popular with the uper middle classes and the military, who after WW1 wished for a return of the Hohenzollern monarchy to replace the German Republic. The NSDAP used the severe economic problems of the time to win over the w/c by propagating a set nationalist racial policies along with socialsit state planning in the economy. Unlike Soviet socialism or Marxism-Leninism, NS would tolerate private industry provided they meet specific government demands, such as the oil and steel industry being told by Hitler to gear their production toward building war materials.

National Socialism was very similar in its economic policies to that of Tito's 'Socialist' Yugoslavia, now known as Market Socialiam. This is a more centralised version of Kyenes economic model.

States since 1945 that have systems similar to National Socialism are Iraq (under the Baath Party), Syria, Yugoslavia before 2000, Algeria, Egypt, (under Nasser) and the USA under F. D. Roosevelt.

commie kg
13th July 2003, 21:07
Did Hitler take control of the industries in Nazi Gremany?
I didn't think he did, but I could be wrong.

I don't think Tito's Yugoslavia is a fair comparison to Nazi Germany. Maybe Yugoslavia wasn't "hardline" Socialist, but Tito was no Hitler. Industry was nationalized, the Yugoslav factions actually stayed together, etc.
Private businesses with 6 employees or less were allowed to operate, though.
But that hardly makes Yugoslavia "National Socialist".

Palmares
14th July 2003, 04:40
Your definition if 'national socialism' is inaccurate.

National Socialism is infact the politically correct term for 'Stalinism' (hence, 'Socialism in one').

A name does make it doctrine.

I believe you are actually trying to determine the definition of social nationalism (social ideology) and state capitalism (economic ideology). Thinking about it, the former seems more relevant to your question.

CubanFox
14th July 2003, 09:05
In theory:
http://www.marxists.org/glossary/people/s/pics/stalin.gif
In practice:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/enzio/kuvat/aatu.jpg