redstar2000
2nd July 2003, 04:31
One of the members of Che-Lives has recently joined a "Marxist"-Leninist Party in the United Kingdom, called the "New Communist Party". He should have asked me, first.
It actually appears pretty typical of such formations, not especially "good" or "bad"...just incredibly wrong-headed. The quotes that follow are from their main resolution, The Thirteenth Congress of the New Communist Party of Britain
December 2000. Source: http://www.londoncommunists.org/6628/index.html
Socialism remains the system upheld and developed in Asia as well as in Cuba. People's China, Democratic Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cuba continue to advance along the revolutionary path charted by their communist parties which are applying the principles of Marxism-Leninism to the concrete conditions that exist in their countries.
The fact that China ranks economically 9th in the world and can feed, clothe and educate its people, who comprise 21 per cent of the world's population, with only seven per cent of the world's arable land is a tribute to socialist planning.
People’s China is making giant strides into the 21st century with rapid industrialisation and development.
It is recognised that any co-operation with capitalism may contain potential dangers. The growth of capitalist interests, both domestic and foreign, within China can have both positive and negative effects. The living standards of the Chinese people are rising, but there also exists a small minority of very rich. The Communist Party of China is actively organising itself by extending its membership amongst working people, and opposing all forms of corruption.
In fact, one of the "hot topics" in "Peoples" China is that of allowing capitalists (a "small minority" of the "very rich"...) to join the "Communist" Party.
In fact, the restoration of capitalism is far advanced in China and proceeding with quickening tempo...and this was widely known in 2000. There's really no excuse for this kind of nonsense--except a kind of unwillingness to learn from experience more characteristic of religion than of any variety of rational thought.
It should also be noted that the restoration of capitalism has well begun in Vietnam...they even have a (very primitive) stock market there (in what will sooner or later be called "Saigon" again).
Then, we move on to the "Labour" Party in the U.K.
Labour’s victory, based on the mass support of the working class, confirmed the correctness of the Party’s policy and call to vote Labour. It confirmed that the Party’s policies conformed and reflected the wish of the masses.
The Labour Party is not the enemy of the working class nor is it a barrier to communist advance.
We support those in the Labour Party fighting for left social-democratic policies.
And many sentences later, we read this...
All the main political parties in Britain seek to perpetuate capitalism.
So we "communists" went out and told the masses to vote for a capitalist party...and they did...and that confirmed "our correctness".
And this capitalist party "is not an enemy of the working class" even though it seeks to "perpetuate capitalism".
Would it be unkind of me to suggest that this is "dialectics gone mad"? Or is a simple explanation more suitable: these poor sods don't know what the hell they're saying.
Then there's this, on the subject of a new "communist international"...
Our view, based on our own experience and that of the world movement as a whole, is that a new international must be based on these principles:
* It must include and be supported by the ruling parties of China, Democratic Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cuba.
I'm rather glad to see this, actually. The "Communist" Party of China is no more going to support such an endeavor than they are going to name a college after Mao's widow. The last thing they want to see is a real global communist movement.
But if there ever was a "new international" of these parties, they should call it the Cretaceous International.
And now we turn to more familiar matters, the old Leninist formulas for "revolution"...
The communist party is the monolithic party of the proletariat and not a party of a bloc of elements of different classes. It is based on democratic centralism. Every member must observe unified discipline. The individual is subordinate to the organisation, the minority is subordinate to the majority, the lower level is subordinate to the higher level, and the entire Party is subordinate to the Central Committee. The highest leading body of the Party is the National Party Congress, and, when it is not in session, the Central Committee elected by it.
Only a revolutionary party can make a revolution. Without a revolutionary party there can be no revolutionary movement. Only a revolutionary party can lead the class to overthrow the bourgeoisie...Only mass revolutionary action by a militant working class led by a revolutionary communist party can bring about revolutionary change.
A revolutionary party can only be built through iron discipline, hardship and sacrifice.
What is certain is that communist parties are essential to the process of preparing the masses for fundamental social changes in all countries, ensuring advance to socialism with minimum conflict, anarchy and suffering.
Right up there with "And surely goodness and mercy will follow me all the days of my life and I will dwell in the House of the Lord forever."
My criticisms of all that obsolete crap have shown up in numerous posts and are on my website as well...so I need not repeat them here.
But it's always kind of a shame to see someone fall victim to the old scam once more; about on the same level as seeing someone you like join a church.
:cool:
(Edited by redstar2000 at 10:36 pm on July 1, 2003)
It actually appears pretty typical of such formations, not especially "good" or "bad"...just incredibly wrong-headed. The quotes that follow are from their main resolution, The Thirteenth Congress of the New Communist Party of Britain
December 2000. Source: http://www.londoncommunists.org/6628/index.html
Socialism remains the system upheld and developed in Asia as well as in Cuba. People's China, Democratic Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cuba continue to advance along the revolutionary path charted by their communist parties which are applying the principles of Marxism-Leninism to the concrete conditions that exist in their countries.
The fact that China ranks economically 9th in the world and can feed, clothe and educate its people, who comprise 21 per cent of the world's population, with only seven per cent of the world's arable land is a tribute to socialist planning.
People’s China is making giant strides into the 21st century with rapid industrialisation and development.
It is recognised that any co-operation with capitalism may contain potential dangers. The growth of capitalist interests, both domestic and foreign, within China can have both positive and negative effects. The living standards of the Chinese people are rising, but there also exists a small minority of very rich. The Communist Party of China is actively organising itself by extending its membership amongst working people, and opposing all forms of corruption.
In fact, one of the "hot topics" in "Peoples" China is that of allowing capitalists (a "small minority" of the "very rich"...) to join the "Communist" Party.
In fact, the restoration of capitalism is far advanced in China and proceeding with quickening tempo...and this was widely known in 2000. There's really no excuse for this kind of nonsense--except a kind of unwillingness to learn from experience more characteristic of religion than of any variety of rational thought.
It should also be noted that the restoration of capitalism has well begun in Vietnam...they even have a (very primitive) stock market there (in what will sooner or later be called "Saigon" again).
Then, we move on to the "Labour" Party in the U.K.
Labour’s victory, based on the mass support of the working class, confirmed the correctness of the Party’s policy and call to vote Labour. It confirmed that the Party’s policies conformed and reflected the wish of the masses.
The Labour Party is not the enemy of the working class nor is it a barrier to communist advance.
We support those in the Labour Party fighting for left social-democratic policies.
And many sentences later, we read this...
All the main political parties in Britain seek to perpetuate capitalism.
So we "communists" went out and told the masses to vote for a capitalist party...and they did...and that confirmed "our correctness".
And this capitalist party "is not an enemy of the working class" even though it seeks to "perpetuate capitalism".
Would it be unkind of me to suggest that this is "dialectics gone mad"? Or is a simple explanation more suitable: these poor sods don't know what the hell they're saying.
Then there's this, on the subject of a new "communist international"...
Our view, based on our own experience and that of the world movement as a whole, is that a new international must be based on these principles:
* It must include and be supported by the ruling parties of China, Democratic Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cuba.
I'm rather glad to see this, actually. The "Communist" Party of China is no more going to support such an endeavor than they are going to name a college after Mao's widow. The last thing they want to see is a real global communist movement.
But if there ever was a "new international" of these parties, they should call it the Cretaceous International.
And now we turn to more familiar matters, the old Leninist formulas for "revolution"...
The communist party is the monolithic party of the proletariat and not a party of a bloc of elements of different classes. It is based on democratic centralism. Every member must observe unified discipline. The individual is subordinate to the organisation, the minority is subordinate to the majority, the lower level is subordinate to the higher level, and the entire Party is subordinate to the Central Committee. The highest leading body of the Party is the National Party Congress, and, when it is not in session, the Central Committee elected by it.
Only a revolutionary party can make a revolution. Without a revolutionary party there can be no revolutionary movement. Only a revolutionary party can lead the class to overthrow the bourgeoisie...Only mass revolutionary action by a militant working class led by a revolutionary communist party can bring about revolutionary change.
A revolutionary party can only be built through iron discipline, hardship and sacrifice.
What is certain is that communist parties are essential to the process of preparing the masses for fundamental social changes in all countries, ensuring advance to socialism with minimum conflict, anarchy and suffering.
Right up there with "And surely goodness and mercy will follow me all the days of my life and I will dwell in the House of the Lord forever."
My criticisms of all that obsolete crap have shown up in numerous posts and are on my website as well...so I need not repeat them here.
But it's always kind of a shame to see someone fall victim to the old scam once more; about on the same level as seeing someone you like join a church.
:cool:
(Edited by redstar2000 at 10:36 pm on July 1, 2003)