Iranian lesbian threatened with deportation

[Neutrino]

ROME: Italian politicians said Rome could grant asylum to an Iranian lesbian who faces deportation from Britain and a possible death sentence back home. Meanwhile, gay rights proponents and left-wing politicians rallied for her cause in a protest Monday outside the British embassy here.

Pegah Emambakhsh, 40, who fled to Britain from Iran in 2005 after her partner was arrested and tortured, is due to be expelled this week after her bid for residency was rejected, according to a British advocacy group.

Supporters in Britain are lobbying immigration authorities to show leniency. And activists in San Francisco have met with British representatives to press Emambakhsh's claim for asylum.

"If returned to Iran, she faces certain imprisonment, likely severe lashings and possibly even stoning to death. Her crime in Iran is her sexual orientation," said Peter Tatchell, of London-based gay rights charity OutRage.

The main Italian gay rights group, Arcigay, led about 100 people in a protest Monday evening outside the British embassy. Some left-wing politicians from parties in Premier Romano Prodi's center-left coalition joined the demonstration.

Arcigay has called on Prodi's government to offer Emambakhsh asylum.

"This life needs to be saved," Aurelio Mancuso, an Arcigay leader, yelled through a megaphone.

Government officials, including Justice Minister Clemente Mastella, have told reporters that Italy is ready to welcome the woman.

Italy, like other EU countries, does not have the death penalty, and began a push at the United Nations earlier this year for a worldwide moratorium on capital punishment.

Homosexuality is considered a crime in Iran and can carry the death penalty. In 2005, the Islamic regime hanged two teenagers on charges of involvement in homosexual acts.

Britain's Home Office declined to comment on Emambakhsh's case, saying it cannot discuss individual asylum cases.

Richard Caborn, a former British sports minister and a lawmaker for the northern English city of Sheffield, where Emambakhsh has lived since 2005, said he had won a temporary delay of her deportation and was planning to press British Home Secretary Jacqui Smith over the case.

"Maybe they wanted proof, but I don't know what proof I could have offered," Italian daily La Repubblica quoted Emambakhsh as saying in an interview published on Sunday. "I'd rather die than go back to Iran, where something more terrible and painful than death awaits me."

Emambakhsh was arrested in Sheffield last week and sent to an immigration detention center in London before her planned deportation.

EU Justice Commissioner Franco Frattini told the Italian news agency ANSA on Monday that Britain should look at the case "in depth."

He acknowledged Emambakhsh's case was difficult to prove but added that "even if there is a doubt, a reasonable suspicion, protection must prevail and the repatriation to Iran must be suspended."

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Associated Press writer David Stringer contributed to this story from London.


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http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/08/27/...ian-Lesbian.php (http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/08/27/europe/EU-GEN-Italy-Britain-Iranian-Lesbian.php)

[Tower of Bebel]

Again, the so called socialists are in power and they do not even think of letting her stay in Brittain. This is disgusting.

[Vinny Rafarino]

As long as they yell "down with American Imperialism" it's all good around these parts.

I wonder if we can find any lesbians here that have supported these crack-pot fundamentalist regimes...I bet we can.

[The Feral Underclass]

I live in Sheffield, incidentally.

[Devrim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27, 2007 07:52 pm
Again, the so called socialists are in power and they do not even think of letting her stay in Brittain. This is disgusting.
Does anybody except Trotskyists still think that the Labour Party is in any way socialist?

Devrim

[Led Zeppelin]

Devrim don't be stupid, Trotskyists (real Trotskyists anyway) do not believe Labour is in any way socialist.

[Red Scare]

I didn't know the Iranian government was barbaric enough to stone homosexuals, this is absolutely disgusting, I cannot believe the British government does not feel any compassion for her, but then again labour officials are just puppets of the conservatives :(

[Devrim]

Originally posted by Led [email protected] 27, 2007 08:54 pm
Devrim don't be stupid, Trotskyists (real Trotskyists anyway) do not believe Labour is in any way socialist.
What are they then, completely capitalist? Is that why most Trotskyists still call for workers to vote for them?
Devrim

[Vinny Rafarino]

Where area all of the "defenders of the faith"?

Don't you want to explain why you support governments and movements that not only condone this sort of crap but go a step further and make it the law?!

I think all were gonna get from these supporters of reactionary thought are the lovely sound of crickets.

The Red Ghost....rev0lt.....Revolution Until Victory....RNK....Come out, come out wherever you are.... :lol:

[Philosophical Materialist]

Originally posted by devrimankara+August 27, 2007 09:25 pm--> (devrimankara @ August 27, 2007 09:25 pm)
Led [email protected] 27, 2007 08:54 pm
Devrim don't be stupid, Trotskyists (real Trotskyists anyway) do not believe Labour is in any way socialist.
What are they then, completely capitalist? Is that why most Trotskyists still call for workers to vote for them?
Devrim [/b]
Labour's dominant Parliamentary faction is neo-liberal. The Labour Party does have a sizable social democratic faction but it has been increasingly marginalised since Tony Blair came to head the Party. The Labour Party has since World War Two been the capitalist party of the working class to work for working class gains through constitutional reformism. In the last fifteen years the Party has attempted to also attract the vote of the liberal wing of the bourgeoisie which has now come to dominate the Party.

Some on the left still call for socialists to work within the trade unions and the Labour Party in order to bring it back to a platform that resembles socialism (such as the 'Labour Representation Committee').

With the Labour Party now accepting market-liberal capitalism the British working class has been put in a position to either accept whatever trinkets it can get from the decreasing socialist consciousness of a Labour government, or risk a much more reactionary Tory government.

[spartan]

vinny,s right there are idiots here who would still support iran despite shit like this because of their anti us stance even though compared to the us they are much more repressive against distinct groups. these stupid kids will never learn :angry:

[Faux Real]

Originally posted by Vinny [email protected] 27, 2007 02:26 pm
Where area all of the "defenders of the faith"?

Don't you want to explain why you support governments and movements that not only condone this sort of crap but go a step further and make it the law?!

I think all were gonna get from these supporters of reactionary thought are the lovely sound of crickets.

The Red Ghost....rev0lt.....Revolution Until Victory....RNK....Come out, come out wherever you are.... :lol:
Ahem. :P

As we well know, at least I do, the government of Iran is not an ally of the working class. They used and abused revolutionary leftists who overthrew the Shah alongside with Khomeini and the Islamists. They in no way can be classified progressive; the theocratic state is purely reactionary.

That's why they resort to public stoning/confrontation with the US/crackdown on dissidents. The show with the US in the international scene is used to get the people to rally around their government which otherwise would not be so popular and would face backlash from the people.

They in no way represent the actual religion and have endured criticism from Muslim scholars and the common practitioner. Their blend of Islamism simply isn't correct, per se.

I, for one, hope the Labour party doesn't do such an inhumane thing as to deport Pegah back to Iran to face the torture and abuse(possible death) as experienced by her partner. Troubling to think that her fate lies within the xenophobic neo-liberals...

That's my response, thank you Vinny. (Just got home, thus the lateness)

[Vinny Rafarino]

As we well know, at least I do, the government of Iran is not an ally of the working class.

Just like the other 51 Islamic states and organizations like Hezbollah, Hamas and the rest of those anti-leftist movements.

It's just not chic among the left to like Iran.

Just wait a week or so, their turn may be just around the corner! :lol:


That's why they resort to public stoning/confrontation with the US/crackdown on dissidents. The show with the US in the international scene is used to get the people to rally around their government which otherwise would not be so popular and would face backlash from the people.

Wrong.

They use public stoning because that's what Allah says you do to dissidents it's called Islamic Law.

And it's crap!


Their blend of Islamism simply isn't correct, per se.


Don't let them know you feel that way. They may just stone you to death at your next pep-rally for reactionary thinking.

[Faux Real]

Originally posted by Vinny [email protected] 27, 2007 03:45 pm
Just like the other 51 Islamic states and organizations like Hezbollah, Hamas and the rest of those anti-leftist movements.
Have you actually read or viewed sources other than the usual FOX News? Look at each organization separately and examine them. Look at their policy and what their goal for the people they claim to support are. Examine each one critically is what I'm getting at here. I don't claim to support every single movement that uses Islam as it's guise.

They use public stoning because that's what Allah says you do to dissidents it's called Islamic Law.
Please find a passage that states this within the whole context and I'll correct you, if reading the pretext doesn't already.

Don't let them know you feel that way. They may just stone you to death at your next pep-rally for reactionary thinking.
I'll bring you along with me, then. ;)

Lets please not turn this into another thread by spartan. Thanks.

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by devrimankara+August 27, 2007 09:25 pm--> (devrimankara @ August 27, 2007 09:25 pm)
Led [email protected] 27, 2007 08:54 pm
Devrim don't be stupid, Trotskyists (real Trotskyists anyway) do not believe Labour is in any way socialist.
What are they then, completely capitalist? Is that why most Trotskyists still call for workers to vote for them?
Devrim [/b]
Most Trotskyists don't call for that. I'm not sure where you get your information from; but it's not from reality.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Have you actually read or viewed sources other than the usual FOX News? Look at each organization separately and examine them. Look at their policy and what their goal for the people they claim to support are. Examine each one critically is what I'm getting at here. I don't claim to support every single movement that uses Islam as it's guise.

Does Fox News film the aftermath of a Suicide Bomber blowing kids up better than another news agency?

In case your confused, I don't support any religion.

Islam is just top of my list because they blow up kids, stone people to death and force people to live in conditions akin to the fucking middle ages.

When are you gonna learn?


Please find a passage that states this within the whole context and I'll correct you, if reading the pretext doesn't already.

Dude, are you for real? :lol:


I'll bring you along with me, then

No thanks son, I like my head where it's at.

[Faux Real]

Originally posted by Vinny [email protected] 27, 2007 04:02 pm
Does Fox News film the aftermath of a Suicide Bomber blowing kids up better than another news agency?
No but it certainly formulates and fits with your opinions and assumptions.

In case your confused, I don't support any religion.
Never said you did. Already could have told you were an anti-theist. :)

Islam is just top of my list because they blow up kids, stone people to death and force people to live in conditions akin to the fucking middle ages.
To quote yourself: When are you gonna learn?
Like people of other religions or people in the third world and the first world working class have it any better.

You really should read more on the perspectives from actual suicide bombers themselves to get a grasp on what they do it for and the root causes of their decision, not that I support what they do.

No thanks son, I like my head where it's at.
Under a ticking bomb!? Sure. :rolleyes: :lol:

Also, thanks for not backing up your absurd claim of: They use public stoning because that's what Allah says you do to dissidents it's called Islamic Law.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Originally posted by rev0lt+--> (rev0lt)Also, thanks for not backing up your absurd claim of: They use public stoning because that's what Allah says you do to dissidents it's called Islamic Law. [/b]

Ahem.


Koran
27:54 And Lot! when he said unto his folk: Will ye commit abomination knowingly ?

27:55 Must ye needs lust after men instead of women ? Nay, but ye are folk who act senselessly.

It is described as an abomination in the Koran. Religions aren't known for their lenient treatment of "abomination", including Islam. No surprise then that hardline Islamic regimes punish homosexuality with execution.

[spartan]

and yet you pro islamists would happily support one of these horrific homophobic racist and sexist regimes just because they are against america even when you know full well that in the us racism is practically illegal, women have much more opportunities and homosexuals are free to practise without harrassment! yes the us has its fair share of bigots but the government dosent persecute these people like islamist scum.

[Lord Testicles]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27, 2007 10:13 pm
I didn't know the Iranian government was barbaric enough to stone homosexuals
Were have you been living?


Since the 1979 Iranian revolution, the legal code has been based on a conservative interpretation of Islamic Shari'a law. All sexual relations that occur outside of a traditional, heterosexual marriage (i.e. sodomy or adultery) are illegal and no legal distinction is made between consensual or non-consensual sexual activity. Homosexual relations that occur between consenting adults in private are a crime and carry a maximum punishment of death. Teenage boys as young as fifteen are eligible for the death penalty (see Mahmoud Asgari and Ayaz Marhoni). Approved by the Islamic Republic Parliament on 30/7/1991 and finally ratified by the High Expediency Council on 28/11/1991, articles 108 through 140 distinctly talk about homosexuality and its punishments in detail.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_i...an#Legal_status (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Iran#Legal_status)

[Devrim]

Originally posted by Led Zeppelin+August 27, 2007 10:55 pm--> (Led Zeppelin @ August 27, 2007 10:55 pm)
Originally posted by [email protected] 27, 2007 09:25 pm

Led [email protected] 27, 2007 08:54 pm
Devrim don't be stupid, Trotskyists (real Trotskyists anyway) do not believe Labour is in any way socialist.
What are they then, completely capitalist? Is that why most Trotskyists still call for workers to vote for them?
Devrim
Most Trotskyists don't call for that. I'm not sure where you get your information from; but it's not from reality. [/b]
I started a new thread as it was off topic:
http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic...view=getnewpost (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=70296&view=getnewpost)
Devrim

[black magick hustla]

...and where are those crackpot "anti-imperialists" rallying behind those poor and oppressed political islamists? :lol:

[Vargha Poralli]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28, 2007 08:27 pm
...and where are those crackpot "anti-imperialists" rallying behind those poor and oppressed political islamists? :lol:
Yes, carpet bombing Iranian cities would certainly get rid of Islamists ? Yeah certainly in Iraq those things have been stopped by the American puppet government and its supporters why not try that experiment with Iran ? ;)

American weapons have deadly accuracy they would ONLY kill Iranian ruling class not the people - which includes workers and peasants. :cool:

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by revolt
No but it certainly formulates and fits with your opinions and assumptions.

Does my well established hatred of Christianity and Judaism fit as well?

You cats are too much! :lol:


Like people of other religions or people in the third world and the first world working class have it any better.

If you want to talk about them and here me bash their religions then start a thread on it.


Also, thanks for not backing up your absurd claim of: They use public stoning because that's what Allah says you do to dissidents it's called Islamic Law.

Since you refused to beam back down to earth I'll help you out a bit..

Article on Islamic law from a Muslim (http://www.jannah.org/morearticles/4.html)

When you get past Pluto, make sure to tun left otherwise you'll miss the parade.



You really should read more on the perspectives from actual suicide bombers themselves to get a grasp on what they do it for and the root causes of their decision, not that I support what they do

Tell that to these people:



Apr 6, 1994 - Eight people were killed in a car-bomb attack on a bus in the center of Afula. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 13, 1994 - Five people were killed in a suicide bombing attack on a bus in the central bus station of Hadera. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Oct 19, 1994 - In a suicide bombing attack on the No. 5 bus on Dizengoff Street in Tel-Aviv, 21 Israelis and one Dutch national were killed.

Nov 11, 1994 - Three soldiers were killed at the Netzarim junction in the Gaza Strip when a Palestinian riding a bicycle detonated explosives strapped to his body. Islamic Jihad said it carried out the attack to avenge the car bomb killing of Islamic Jihad leader Hani Abed on Nov 2.

Jan 22, 1995 - Two consecutive bombs exploded at the Beit Lid junction near Netanya, killing 20 soldiers and one civilian. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Apr 9, 1995 - Seven Israelis and one American were killed when a bus was hit by an explosives-laden van near Kfar Darom in the Gaza Strip. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.

Jul 24, 1995 - Six civilians were killed in a suicide bomb attack on a bus in Ramat Gan.

Aug 21, 1995 - Three Israelis and one American were killed in a suicide bombing of a Jerusalem bus.

Feb 25, 1996 - In a suicide bombing of bus No. 18 near the Central Bus Station in Jerusalem, 26 were killed (17 civilians and 9 soldiers). Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Feb 25, 1996 - One Israeli was killed in an explosion set off by a suicide bomber at a hitchhiking post oustide Ashkelon. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.

Mar 3, 1996 - In a suicide bombing of bus No. 18 on Jaffa Road in Jerusalem, 19 were killed (16 civilians and 3 soldiers).

Mar 4, 1996 - Outside Dizengoff Center in Tel-Aviv, a suicide bomber detonated a 20-kilogram nail bomb, killing 13 (12 civilians and one soldier).

Mar 21, 1997 - Three people were killed when a suicide bomber detonated a bomb on the terrace of a Tel Aviv cafe. 48 people were wounded.

Jul 30, 1997 - 16 people were killed and 178 wounded in two consecutive suicide bombings in the Mahane Yehuda market in Jerusalem.

Sep 4, 1997 - Five people were killed and 181 wounded in three suicide bombings on the Ben-Yehuda pedestrian mall in Jerusalem.

That list was way to long to leave in ...here's (http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-%20Obstacle%20to%20Peace/Palestinian%20terror%20since%202000/Suicide%20and%20Other%20Bombing%20Attacks%20in%20I srael%20Since) the link.

[Led Zeppelin]

Quick, someone post the people the Israeli military killed to equalize it. :rolleyes:

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by Led [email protected] 28, 2007 10:08 am
Quick, someone post the people the Israeli military killed to equalize it. :rolleyes:
Please do!

I will be the very first in line to condemn their actions.

[black magick hustla]

Originally posted by g.ram+August 28, 2007 03:35 pm--> (g.ram @ August 28, 2007 03:35 pm)
[email protected] 28, 2007 08:27 pm
...and where are those crackpot "anti-imperialists" rallying behind those poor and oppressed political islamists? :lol:
Yes, carpet bombing Iranian cities would certainly get rid of Islamists ? Yeah certainly in Iraq those things have been stopped by the American puppet government and its supporters why not try that experiment with Iran ? ;)

American weapons have deadly accuracy they would ONLY kill Iranian ruling class not the people - which includes workers and peasants. :cool: [/b]
Don't be silly.

Are you saying that we have to either choose between reactionary mullahs or american imperialists? Now what, we can only choose between Republicans or Democrats? :lol:

[spartan]

yeah exactly why should there even have to be a choice. the only side i am siding with is the proletariat.

[Cheung Mo]

Before we tackle these objections and any such other objections against Islam, we must be very careful of our methodology. Islam is the religion of Allah3 and it needs no human defenses or justifications.

I broke into hysterical laughter when I read that.

I prefer Marx's proverb: "Criticise everything always."

Marx blackmails his followers into thinking; theocrats blackmail their followers into being mindless drones.

[RNK]

...and where are those crackpot "anti-imperialists" rallying behind those poor and oppressed political islamists?

It's been only 5 years and it seems you've already forgotten about Afghanistan and Iraq. Unless you're saying you support those invasions...

Imperialism is the last entity we need "carrying out" the worker's objectives.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by RNK
Imperialism is the last entity we need "carrying out" the worker's objectives.

But fundamentalist, political islamic, terroristic religious Imperialism (happy now! :lol: ) is okay?