View Full Version : FIFA turns head away from racism...
R_P_A_S
23rd August 2007, 22:30
from AngryAsianMan.com
http://www.angryasianman.com/images/angry/carlosbazalar.jpg
What the hell is happening in this photo? That's Peru's Carlos Bazalar celebrating his game-winning goal over South Korea at the FIFA U-17 World Cup game this past Saturday.
Check out the video VIDEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du1nrqUA7eQ)
Yes, the chinky eyes. That's maturity and good sportsmanship. He just mocked Asians worldwide on international television with a simple, tired gesture. Unfortunately, almost any Asian kid in schoolyards across the United States is familiar with this racist taunt. How many kids around the world saw this and instantly learned the international gesture for "chink," thanks to this jerk? You'd think he would've gotten in some kind of trouble for this... but nope. Nothing. That's racist!
Rawthentic
23rd August 2007, 23:37
I can't believe this shit, ban that motherfucker for life for doing that.
FIFA has supposedly been on the forefront of fighting racism on and off the pitch, I hope they come down hard.
Terminator X
24th August 2007, 00:53
I started a thread in the Chit-Chat forum about this topic...and I'm with you, this shit is out of control. UEFA doesn't do shit to teams in Europe who have fans that are known racists/fascists (namely Lazio, Real Madrid, basically every club in Serbia). It's usually a fine of 50,000 euros or less (which, when Madrid spends 50 million euros on players like pocket change, is a joke). We need matches played behind closed doors or start throwing clubs out of the Champions League. It's a farce.
R_P_A_S
24th August 2007, 02:20
I wrote both the FIFA and the Peruvian Football Federation a letter concerning this issue. I expect them to take action. this is bullshit. Specially if FIFA pumps it's "Say no to racism" so much. ACT ON IT!
Cheung Mo
26th August 2007, 01:34
Sorta reminds me of this guy...I thought Chavez had Robertson's buddies kicked out of Latin America for threatening to assassinate him. lol
http://www.angryasianman.com/images/angry/patrobertson.jpg
LSD
26th August 2007, 01:57
I'll freely confess that I know absolutely nothing about the game of football havinh only watched one world cup match in my life, but what does being a racist fuck have to do with playing the game again?
I don't know when all this "athletic code of conduct" crap started, but I think it's really starting to get out of hand.
If someone breaks a law, they should be judicially punnished for it. I hardly see what their league or team has to do with it. And if they don't break a law, if they just make an ass... well frankly who gives a fuck?
I mean it's not like anyone is going to look at this fellow and decide to start hating asians. All he's accomplished is to make himself look a little foolish.
Besides, this is the least harmful kind of racism since it doesn't actually reinforce any negative stereotypes, but rather plays off of existant physical differences. It's still inherently racist and moronic, to be sure, but I hardly think that anyone's been injured.
And I think we all need to tone down the moral crusader routine when it comes to "role models". It still escapes me why people expect sports figures to be especially good at anything other than sports.
R_P_A_S
26th August 2007, 02:19
hey FIFA is the one pumping his "say no to racism" campaign yet they allow this sort of celebration?
I think it's wrong. he should have more respect.
bloody_capitalist_sham
26th August 2007, 02:23
FIFA said they deal with racism because the young fans can be very influenced by footballers.
rouchambeau
26th August 2007, 03:02
If someone breaks a law, they should be judicially punnished for it. I hardly see what their league or team has to do with it. And if they don't break a law, if they just make an ass... well frankly who gives a fuck?
YEAH IF RACISM ISNT ILEGAL WHO CAREZ AMIRITE?
LSD
26th August 2007, 03:06
YEAH IF RACISM ISNT ILEGAL WHO CAREZ AMIRITE?
Care all you want, I just don't see what it has to do with FIFA.
LuĂs Henrique
26th August 2007, 03:13
Erm, I fear people are projecting a North-American issue into Peruvian affairs. I am not all that learned about the situation of Asian immigrants in Peru, but I don't think it is anyway comparable to what it is in the US. After all, one of them has been elected and reelected President there.
Oh, and Asians do have eyes with characteristic features. I can't see how this is a stereotype, much less a demeaning one.
Luís Henrique
R_P_A_S
26th August 2007, 19:47
ok so is perfectly fine according to most of you? this sort of attitude is acceptable? ridiculing others, mocking them?
ok.
or are we just a bunch of over sensitive hags?
Terminator X
26th August 2007, 21:29
Originally posted by
[email protected] 26, 2007 06:47 pm
ok so is perfectly fine according to most of you? this sort of attitude is acceptable? ridiculing others, mocking them?
ok.
or are we just a bunch of over sensitive hags?
Funny, because over in the Chit-Chat forum, my protests were met with the same response...."Eh, it's just a couple of racist fans, doesn't have much to do with the football being played".
Um, I thought this group refused to stand for racism or fascism in any form, whether it be douchebag fans at football matches or douchebag players in said football matches. When ONE group of people is being mocked for their race, I stand up and protest, whether it be in Korea, Peru, Serbia, or Spain, on the football pitch or otherwise. I wear the black/white "stamp out racism in football" wristbands every day. I have stood with the Brigate Autonome Livornesi as they went toe-to-toe vs. the fascist Irriducibili of Lazio. I have written to UEFA to protest the ridiculously low fines that big clubs receive when their fans are found guilty of racist taunting.
Or is it more "revolutionary" to sit on my ass and watch the world go by saying "what difference does one racist make"?
rouchambeau
26th August 2007, 22:12
Um, I thought this group refused to stand for racism or fascism in any form,
I guess we were both wrong.
LuĂs Henrique
27th August 2007, 00:50
Originally posted by
[email protected] 26, 2007 06:47 pm
ok so is perfectly fine according to most of you? this sort of attitude is acceptable? ridiculing others, mocking them?
Nobody said it was perfectly fine. It just was blown totally out or proportion by some people. Imagine, banning a 17 year old football player from sport for life, for poking fun at a defeated team. Good grief, taking a person's profession for that!
or are we just a bunch of over sensitive hags?
I suppose so.
Football is a competitive game. Poking fun at the defeated - ridiculing them, mocking them, as you put - is traditionally part of it. Should we ban the game altogether? Should we perhaps ban all competitive sport?
Another thing is, racism against Asian immigrants is a different issue in South America than in the US. The xenophobic reactions against them that were unhappily so common in the US were not as widespread South of the Rio Grande.
And frankly - this guy was not calling for violence against Koreans. Nor he was implying, in any way, that Koreans are somehow inferior. Nor he was denying Koreans any right that they should have.
So, yes, I think this is oversensitivity. There is no real problem with that - at least no real problem that cannot be solved with just calling this boy aside and telling him that it was not nice and he shouldn't do it again.
Luís Henrique
R_P_A_S
27th August 2007, 02:16
Originally posted by Luís Henrique+August 26, 2007 11:50 pm--> (Luís Henrique @ August 26, 2007 11:50 pm)
[email protected] 26, 2007 06:47 pm
ok so is perfectly fine according to most of you? this sort of attitude is acceptable? ridiculing others, mocking them?
Nobody said it was perfectly fine. It just was blown totally out or proportion by some people. Imagine, banning a 17 year old football player from sport for life, for poking fun at a defeated team. Good grief, taking a person's profession for that!
or are we just a bunch of over sensitive hags?
I suppose so.
Football is a competitive game. Poking fun at the defeated - ridiculing them, mocking them, as you put - is traditionally part of it. Should we ban the game altogether? Should we perhaps ban all competitive sport?
Another thing is, racism against Asian immigrants is a different issue in South America than in the US. The xenophobic reactions against them that were unhappily so common in the US were not as widespread South of the Rio Grande.
And frankly - this guy was not calling for violence against Koreans. Nor he was implying, in any way, that Koreans are somehow inferior. Nor he was denying Koreans any right that they should have.
So, yes, I think this is oversensitivity. There is no real problem with that - at least no real problem that cannot be solved with just calling this boy aside and telling him that it was not nice and he shouldn't do it again.
Luís Henrique [/b]
yeah banning him for life was something completely ridiculous. thats crazy.
but I been around football all my life and I understand how some of these celebrations can get really out of hand mostly in the leagues but at the international level? under a "FIFA YOUTH WORLD CUP" that has a "Say no to racism campaign"?
I believe its only fair to bring up the issue to Mr. Balazar and ask him why he feels that's acceptable and if the Peruvian Football Federation and FIFA find this acceptable? and if so, why and if they don't how come he wasn't warned?
is this too much to ask?
Janus
27th August 2007, 02:34
Oh, and Asians do have eyes with characteristic features. I can't see how this is a stereotype, much less a demeaning one.
Not all East and Southeast Asians have an epicanthal fold nor is it only found in those of Asian descent yet it is a part of the Oriental stereotype. Insults and trash talk is very common in sports but when such mocking becomes racist in nature then that is certainly something that should be criticized particularly when the offender is considered to be a representative of his own nation. No one expects sports players to be anything more than what their job description entails but such cultural disrespect certainly doesn't help international and game relationships/dynamics.
Tekun
6th September 2007, 10:26
Ridiculous shit, but what has FIFA ever done to successfully combat racism besides issuing empty promises and pre-written declarations read by football teams b4 the start of a match?
This sorta of shit has been going on for too long, it happens in Europe, in Asia, in the America's...therez racism all over the place and there has always been racism
FIFA's "punishments" and "threats" have fallen on deaf ears and as a result we continue to see this bullshit
FIFA leadership is a joke, the only way things are gonna be changed is if the entire organization is scrapped and rebuilt
R_P_A_S
10th September 2007, 08:34
i can't believe this shit slipped through the cracks.
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