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Acolyte Of Death
17th June 2003, 02:23
We've seen the arguments between the multi-party system and the one-party system. Some of us support a democratic, multiparty government, others support an efficient single party government. Yet time and time again, as these two parties have clashed, we've not seen a person suggest a zero-party system. Now when you hear this do not think that I am suggesting an anarchy, nor am I suggesting totalitarianism.

I am suggesting that a government can exist without the need for large coalitions of people voting one way or another, and instead, with individuals voting the way they believe is best. A government need not exist with political blocs, it can do very well without them. This is not to say that nobody will have a hand in the government, merely that individuals will have to vote for individual members of the government (should there be a representative government) based upon those persons' ideas and promises. Or it could be so done that a system of mandatory public service be emplaced in order to give every citizen an equal chance of serving in the government.

Either way, to me, a zero-party system would be far more preferable to any party system. Comments?

Pete
17th June 2003, 02:31
^_^ Welcome to the Polity of Greece.

This is in essence how I would intrepret an ideal one party system. Where everyone is united, but they hold their own opinions, since they are all relatively the same, but they stand where they want on the inside. I do not think that right wingers should be allowed complete freedoms in a new society, but to have it partyless there would also need to have limits to this to gaurantee that a counter-revolution cannot occur.

I like your idea, and I will combine it to mine. One party, many ideas.

Lardlad95
17th June 2003, 02:40
Quote: from Acolyte Of Death on 2:23 am on June 17, 2003
We've seen the arguments between the multi-party system and the one-party system. Some of us support a democratic, multiparty government, others support an efficient single party government. Yet time and time again, as these two parties have clashed, we've not seen a person suggest a zero-party system. Now when you hear this do not think that I am suggesting an anarchy, nor am I suggesting totalitarianism.

I am suggesting that a government can exist without the need for large coalitions of people voting one way or another, and instead, with individuals voting the way they believe is best. A government need not exist with political blocs, it can do very well without them. This is not to say that nobody will have a hand in the government, merely that individuals will have to vote for individual members of the government (should there be a representative government) based upon those persons' ideas and promises. Or it could be so done that a system of mandatory public service be emplaced in order to give every citizen an equal chance of serving in the government.

Either way, to me, a zero-party system would be far more preferable to any party system. Comments?



....A noble idea but totally unfeesible

anti machine
17th June 2003, 05:43
Trotskyesque, to an extent. God is the state-the state is god. The state is just as unquestionable as nature itself.

Perhaps a "zero-party" will exist when utopian anarchy enters the final stage.

onepunchmachinegun
18th June 2003, 13:42
It isn't a bad idea, but I think that you can't keep people from uniting and making alliances with other people if there is a goverment. You've made a good point, but I still believe in anarchism...

Dick Wolf
22nd June 2003, 07:02
a zero party system would be in essence, an ideal single party system where there is a united voice but dissent is allowed. people will form cadres anyway but small cadres would be better than huge parties. this leaves a good portion of power to the individual.

Iron Star
22nd June 2003, 08:05
however you have to consider the chance of corruption among party members.

Dick Wolf
22nd June 2003, 08:58
corruption is a problem faced through all forms of government. what makes this different? the problem with the ussr was that they established a one-party system where there were strict guidlines there wasn't room for dissent. after lenin died, stalin did nothing to promote democracy in the party. if one strayed away from the party they were persecuted for being traitors.

Hegemonicretribution
23rd June 2003, 20:58
Quote: from CrazyPete on 2:31 am on June 17, 2003
^_^ Welcome to the Polity of Greece.

This is in essence how I would intrepret an ideal one party system. Where everyone is united, but they hold their own opinions, since they are all relatively the same, but they stand where they want on the inside. I do not think that right wingers should be allowed complete freedoms in a new society, but to have it partyless there would also need to have limits to this to gaurantee that a counter-revolution cannot occur.

I like your idea, and I will combine it to mine. One party, many ideas.


I think there needs to be room for counter-revolution, if that truelly is the best option, and all has fallen through.

Also right-wingers are people that will always exist, and at heart, wheneveryone is benifiting from the new system, they will be a minority. Don't make them martyrs, give them the same rights and let the majority ignore them.

革命者
23rd June 2003, 22:24
the highest death tolls are caused by counter-revolutionaries-- the military or the police(or the ppl) killing "terrorists".

apathy maybe
24th June 2003, 01:51
A zero party system is effectivly a multi-party system with a lot of parties. They will form alliances and vote en mass for legislation. You can not regulate against parties either as any two or three people with the same view will talk together and vote together and will be all but in name a party apart from the rest of the group.

Charlie Goth
30th June 2003, 14:45
Quote: from apathy maybe on 1:51 am on June 24, 2003
A zero party system is effectivly a multi-party system with a lot of parties. They will form alliances and vote en mass for legislation. You can not regulate against parties either as any two or three people with the same view will talk together and vote together and will be all but in name a party apart from the rest of the group.

Charlie Goth
30th June 2003, 14:47
oops, I put the wrong password and lost my post when I clicked 'back', I'll post again when I can be bothered.

Red Comrade
30th June 2003, 15:25
To original poster: Well, your theory is what I wish to put to work in a one-party centralized system.