Pictures : Protests against SPP summit

[NaxalbariZindabad]

Comrade RNK wrote a report here :

revleft.com/?showtopic=70047 (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=70047)

Here's now about 100 pictures :

s147.photobucket.com/albums/r316/amadika007/Sommet%20Montebello%2007 (http://s147.photobucket.com/albums/r316/amadika007/Sommet%20Montebello%2007)

[Saint Street Revolution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2007 04:21 pm
Comrade RNK wrote a report here :

revleft.com/?showtopic=70047 (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=70047)

Here's now about 100 pictures :

s147.photobucket.com/albums/r316/amadika007/Sommet%20Montebello%2007 (http://s147.photobucket.com/albums/r316/amadika007/Sommet%20Montebello%2007)
The pictures are rad. :D

I wish I could have been there.

[RNK]

Here's a couple of nice YouTube vids already put up:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oDjAyGFH75I
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eRcDzhek4hw
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ILTtIGVRS9k
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NF7r_qNOCiI

[OneBrickOneVoice]

whoa that looks kickass. where'd you get those mlm flags btw

[NaxalbariZindabad]

These flags are homemade.

(btw, if you wannna make nice flags and banners, try printing your model on transparencies, then using an overhead projector to display the model on the flag/banner)

[An archist]

Maoist punks?
http://s147.photobucket.com/albums/r316/am...nt=HPIM8703.jpg (http://s147.photobucket.com/albums/r316/amadika007/Sommet%20Montebello%2007/?action=view¤t=HPIM8703.jpg)

EDIT: what's the SPP summit about then?

[An archist]

Another comment: the worst place and time to start a riot is where there are elderly, children, protesters who don't want to use violence and loads of cops.
There's a reason why cops use agents provocateurs at such large protests, it's because they are prepared for it and it gives them the perfect excuse to arrest people. Also, a large block of protesters against a large block of cops is a bad tactic, the cops are stronger, better armoured, better organised and better equipped then you.
Though I may not agree with burning people's cars, the tactics the youths in the french banlieus use are far more effective, small groups of people who know each other go around, attacking targets and retreating before too many cops arrive.
Sometimes they set a car on fire or call the cops to ambush them when there's not a lot of them. Thet's far more effective.

EDIT: unless anyone knows the three guys arrested, I'd say they are cops. 1: Most anarchists aren't that big 2: they didn't stick together with the rest of the protesters 3: when the union guy called them cops, they pushed forward to get themselves arrested.

[NaxalbariZindabad]

Maoist punks?

Why not? :)


the worst place and time to start a riot is where there are elderly, children, protesters who don't want to use violence and loads of cops.

I agree. That's why there are green and red zones in a lot of demonstrations (including this one). A green zone is where the elderly, children and hippies go. The red zone is for those wanting to fight. All activists respect this simple rule and nobody ever goes in the green zone to start a riot. What you see in this video are fuckin cops (read this (http://ottawa.indymedia.org/en/2007/08/5383.shtml) for evidence) trying to make trouble in the green zone.


Also, a large block of protesters against a large block of cops is a bad tactic

That's not true. As it was seen many times, it is very feasible for a large group of protesters to win confrontations with the cops.

[An archist]

Originally posted by NaxalbariZindabad+--> (NaxalbariZindabad)Why not? :)[/b]
hehe, true


NaxalbariZindabad
That's not true. As it was seen many times, it is very feasible for a large group of protesters to win confrontations with the cops.
But not when the protesters are in a large blok, that way, the cops can seal off the entire group and use watercanons and/or teargas, when the proesters are divided into several smaller groups, using hit and run tactics, they're a lot harder to control.

[RNK]

That may be true, but it also depends on the geographical situation. At Montebello there were really only two directions; back and forth. The police did not appear to be there in enough numbers to cut the demonstrators off; at best they mustered a large contingent infront of the chateau, and small numbers of police lining the northern border of the main highway. The green zone for example was along a road leading north (one of only three roads into/out of Montebello) and there were only about 15-20 cops there, compared to the 100+ always manning the main line.

Anyway, in more open urban environments, several groups of small protest "cadres" could be more effective, but a mass group can be just as equally, if not more effective, particularly when the police are protecting a small target (in this case the front entrance of the chateau). It simply depends on organization and determination, which this demonstration lacked.

[An archist]

http://www.suretequebec.gouv.qc.ca/accueil...0070823_02.html (http://www.suretequebec.gouv.qc.ca/accueil/communiques/2007/20070823_02.html)

They had to admit the three people were cops.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2007 10:21 am
Here's now about 100 pictures :

s147.photobucket.com/albums/r316/amadika007/Sommet%20Montebello%2007 (http://s147.photobucket.com/albums/r316/amadika007/Sommet%20Montebello%2007)
Man punks are stupid.

[Fawkes]

1: Most anarchists aren't that big
:huh:

[An archist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24, 2007 07:49 pm

1: Most anarchists aren't that big
:huh:
:P Have you ever seen three anarchists that broad together?

[Fawkes]

Originally posted by An archist+August 24, 2007 03:12 pm--> (An archist @ August 24, 2007 03:12 pm)
[email protected] 24, 2007 07:49 pm

1: Most anarchists aren't that big
:huh:
:P Have you ever seen three anarchists that broad together? [/b]
I guess you're right, which leads me to another point: anarchists need to stop with the veganism shit and gain some muscle.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by Fawkes+August 24, 2007 02:49 pm--> (Fawkes @ August 24, 2007 02:49 pm)
Originally posted by An [email protected] 24, 2007 03:12 pm

[email protected] 24, 2007 07:49 pm

1: Most anarchists aren't that big
:huh:
:P Have you ever seen three anarchists that broad together?
I guess you're right, which leads me to another point: anarchists need to stop with the veganism shit and gain some muscle. [/b]
Veganism has nothing to do with it.

Vegan:
http://www.vegetarianteen.com/images/robertcheeke.jpg

[RNK]

He still looks like a gust of wind would send him flying.

[workingcommunist]

Great pictures! Keep it up! :ph34r:

[An archist]

Originally posted by Fawkes+August 24, 2007 08:49 pm--> (Fawkes @ August 24, 2007 08:49 pm)
Originally posted by An [email protected] 24, 2007 03:12 pm

[email protected] 24, 2007 07:49 pm

1: Most anarchists aren't that big
:huh:
:P Have you ever seen three anarchists that broad together?
I guess you're right, which leads me to another point: anarchists need to stop with the veganism shit and gain some muscle. [/b]
Hey, I'm vegetarian and I'm gaining muscle, I know a vegetarian I would call fat.
Plus it's healthier.

[RNK]

Just found this very, very interesting blogpost (http://sketchythoughts.blogspot.com/2007/09/classes-cops-and-liberal-spin-thinking.html) concerning the controversy over the "agent provocateurs" (undercover police) spotted at the anti-SPP protest in Montebello, and how the State is actually benefiting from the exposure of these three cops-dressed-like-anarchists thanks to their social-democrat patsies.

Probably the most interesting turn of events in the whole process is the actions of Dave Coles, the union leader who received national attention by "outing" these undercover cops (it seems he actually didn't, he just joined in and got the media attention). He's quoted as saying (in the Montreal Gazette):


Originally posted by Dave Coles
Anyone approaching someone while masked and armed with a weapon is just wrong. Anyone who supports direct action and wears a mask is just dumb. They should go back to the way Gandhi did it.

It would seem that the social-democrats have once again made their partnership with the bourgeois state, and opposition to those the state exploits, quite clear. They have jumped on the bandwagon of undercover cops and spinned it against those who actually do have a chance of challenging their beloved state system.

Most of us on this site are "radical" left and couldn't give half a damn about Dave Coles and whatever nonsense he has to say. But the fact that the bourgeois media is essentially using his idiocy to turn criticism over the SPP protest into a positive benefit should concern us all.