Young Jeezy

[Rage]

Is the best fucking rapper evar.

Yes or no?


proof:

Enemy of the State, They Call Me Will Smith
Gotta Thing On My Side you Can Call Dat Jada
The Boys Talking Down Yea We Call Em Hatas
I'm Balling Right Now So We'll Get Back To Dat Later


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzUCff6WAho

/,,/
Rock on!

[Saint Street Revolution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2007 04:09 pm
Is the best fucking rapper evar.

Yes or no?

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Rock on!
No.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z44/Jpsalinas16/Immortal_Technique_solo.jpg

He's the best rapper ever.

[Rage]

PPOR.

/,,/
Rock on!

[Saint Street Revolution]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2007 04:17 pm
PPOR.

/,,/
Rock on!
PPOR?

[Rage]

post proof or retract.

/,,/
Rock on!

[Saint Street Revolution]

Um...listen to him.

[Pirate Utopian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2007 05:09 pm
Is the best fucking rapper evar.

Yes or no?


proof:

Enemy of the State, They Call Me Will Smith
Gotta Thing On My Side you Can Call Dat Jada
The Boys Talking Down Yea We Call Em Hatas
I'm Balling Right Now So We'll Get Back To Dat Later


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzUCff6WAho

/,,/
Rock on!
:huh: ..... NO!

[OneBrickOneVoice]

No I agree with Granma Sweater

Technique will force you into strategical retreat
Because I dominate guerrilla warfare in the streets
There ain't no way to picture me without a victory speech
When I reach higher positions
Without the recognition of pissed on competition
Cause I conquered there ambitions
In a systematic form like a religionist tradition
My mission is to take you, lyrically break you
Lyrically assassinate you
Lyrically incinerate your body and recreate you
To destroy the power that mentally incarcerates you
Cause even though I rip it better I could not forsake you
Your my people with the same oppressors so how could I hate you
The revolution of the mind that bring lee generates you
But when you come original people impersonate you, start to hate you
Cause the conflict is building within the ultimate sin
Is to be ashamed of your skin
My rhymes are like Jamaican over proof I make the room spin
Intoxicated flow I bleed vodka and brandy
Don't make me choke you down like Jon-Benet Ramsey
Something demands of me to rip this fucking shit uncannily
God commanded me to be a technological disease
And psychologically do battle with the best emcee's
*Inaudible* these in technique
Cause I'm the capital of revolutionary nation that's infallible
Aztec like the Hannibal
Rip your heart out of your chest and feed it to the cannibal's
Your just a fucking animal but I'm the Neo Sapien
Cause my original civilization was based upon creation
You know theirs no escaping even though your heart is racing
I'll put your best disciple on academic probation
Fuck the litigation, fuck the best rapper nominations
And fuck the president I voted for assassinations
I'm saying fuck the federal bullshit investigations
Fuck the cover up of ghetto radiation extermination
Using my people for experimentation
And if doesn't play hip hop then fuck your radio station
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/immortaltec...olutionary.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/immortaltechnique/revolutionary.html)

but Koba is even better than IT

[which doctor]

Young Jeezy is dumb

[Dublin Red]

He is good but Tupac has to be the best ever.

[The-Spark]

Originally posted by GrandMonster [email protected] 22, 2007 10:21 pm
No I agree with Granma Sweater

Technique will force you into strategical retreat
Because I dominate guerrilla warfare in the streets
There ain't no way to picture me without a victory speech
When I reach higher positions
Without the recognition of pissed on competition
Cause I conquered there ambitions
In a systematic form like a religionist tradition
My mission is to take you, lyrically break you
Lyrically assassinate you
Lyrically incinerate your body and recreate you
To destroy the power that mentally incarcerates you
Cause even though I rip it better I could not forsake you
Your my people with the same oppressors so how could I hate you
The revolution of the mind that bring lee generates you
But when you come original people impersonate you, start to hate you
Cause the conflict is building within the ultimate sin
Is to be ashamed of your skin
My rhymes are like Jamaican over proof I make the room spin
Intoxicated flow I bleed vodka and brandy
Don't make me choke you down like Jon-Benet Ramsey
Something demands of me to rip this fucking shit uncannily
God commanded me to be a technological disease
And psychologically do battle with the best emcee's
*Inaudible* these in technique
Cause I'm the capital of revolutionary nation that's infallible
Aztec like the Hannibal
Rip your heart out of your chest and feed it to the cannibal's
Your just a fucking animal but I'm the Neo Sapien
Cause my original civilization was based upon creation
You know theirs no escaping even though your heart is racing
I'll put your best disciple on academic probation
Fuck the litigation, fuck the best rapper nominations
And fuck the president I voted for assassinations
I'm saying fuck the federal bullshit investigations
Fuck the cover up of ghetto radiation extermination
Using my people for experimentation
And if doesn't play hip hop then fuck your radio station
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/immortaltec...olutionary.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/immortaltechnique/revolutionary.html)

but Koba is even better than IT
Whos that by? And I like some of Dead Prez's songs. and that MC from Rage Against The Machine is sik

[OneBrickOneVoice]

Originally posted by The-Spark+August 23, 2007 03:43 am--> (The-Spark @ August 23, 2007 03:43 am)
GrandMonster [email protected] 22, 2007 10:21 pm
No I agree with Granma Sweater

Technique will force you into strategical retreat
Because I dominate guerrilla warfare in the streets
There ain't no way to picture me without a victory speech
When I reach higher positions
Without the recognition of pissed on competition
Cause I conquered there ambitions
In a systematic form like a religionist tradition
My mission is to take you, lyrically break you
Lyrically assassinate you
Lyrically incinerate your body and recreate you
To destroy the power that mentally incarcerates you
Cause even though I rip it better I could not forsake you
Your my people with the same oppressors so how could I hate you
The revolution of the mind that bring lee generates you
But when you come original people impersonate you, start to hate you
Cause the conflict is building within the ultimate sin
Is to be ashamed of your skin
My rhymes are like Jamaican over proof I make the room spin
Intoxicated flow I bleed vodka and brandy
Don't make me choke you down like Jon-Benet Ramsey
Something demands of me to rip this fucking shit uncannily
God commanded me to be a technological disease
And psychologically do battle with the best emcee's
*Inaudible* these in technique
Cause I'm the capital of revolutionary nation that's infallible
Aztec like the Hannibal
Rip your heart out of your chest and feed it to the cannibal's
Your just a fucking animal but I'm the Neo Sapien
Cause my original civilization was based upon creation
You know theirs no escaping even though your heart is racing
I'll put your best disciple on academic probation
Fuck the litigation, fuck the best rapper nominations
And fuck the president I voted for assassinations
I'm saying fuck the federal bullshit investigations
Fuck the cover up of ghetto radiation extermination
Using my people for experimentation
And if doesn't play hip hop then fuck your radio station
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/immortaltec...olutionary.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/immortaltechnique/revolutionary.html)

but Koba is even better than IT
Whos that by? And I like some of Dead Prez's songs. and that MC from Rage Against The Machine is sik [/b]
Immortal Technique. And the MC from Rage Against the Machine is Tom Morello

[Labor Shall Rule]

I second Grandma's Sweater and Grandmonster Mao.

[Rage]

Originally posted by GrandMonster Mao+August 23, 2007 04:57 am--> (GrandMonster Mao @ August 23, 2007 04:57 am)
Originally posted by The-[email protected] 23, 2007 03:43 am

GrandMonster [email protected] 22, 2007 10:21 pm
No I agree with Granma Sweater

Technique will force you into strategical retreat
Because I dominate guerrilla warfare in the streets
There ain't no way to picture me without a victory speech
When I reach higher positions
Without the recognition of pissed on competition
Cause I conquered there ambitions
In a systematic form like a religionist tradition
My mission is to take you, lyrically break you
Lyrically assassinate you
Lyrically incinerate your body and recreate you
To destroy the power that mentally incarcerates you
Cause even though I rip it better I could not forsake you
Your my people with the same oppressors so how could I hate you
The revolution of the mind that bring lee generates you
But when you come original people impersonate you, start to hate you
Cause the conflict is building within the ultimate sin
Is to be ashamed of your skin
My rhymes are like Jamaican over proof I make the room spin
Intoxicated flow I bleed vodka and brandy
Don't make me choke you down like Jon-Benet Ramsey
Something demands of me to rip this fucking shit uncannily
God commanded me to be a technological disease
And psychologically do battle with the best emcee's
*Inaudible* these in technique
Cause I'm the capital of revolutionary nation that's infallible
Aztec like the Hannibal
Rip your heart out of your chest and feed it to the cannibal's
Your just a fucking animal but I'm the Neo Sapien
Cause my original civilization was based upon creation
You know theirs no escaping even though your heart is racing
I'll put your best disciple on academic probation
Fuck the litigation, fuck the best rapper nominations
And fuck the president I voted for assassinations
I'm saying fuck the federal bullshit investigations
Fuck the cover up of ghetto radiation extermination
Using my people for experimentation
And if doesn't play hip hop then fuck your radio station
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/immortaltec...olutionary.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/immortaltechnique/revolutionary.html)

but Koba is even better than IT
Whos that by? And I like some of Dead Prez's songs. and that MC from Rage Against The Machine is sik
Immortal Technique. And the MC from Rage Against the Machine is Tom Morello [/b]
uhhh... what?!? Tom Morello is the guitarist. Zack De La Rocha sings. They have played with Chuck D, KRS-One, and some of Cypress Hill before though.


The difference between Young Jeezy and IT is that young jeezy is REAL!



:huh: ..... NO!

maybe I should clarify. He annunciates the last words in each line very differently from the rest, thus making it x2 moar better.


/,,/
Rock on!

[Saint Street Revolution]

The difference between Young Jeezy and IT is that young jeezy is REAL!

Do you have evidence that Immortal Technique is fake, by any chance? I would think the mainstream, Rightist rapper would be a bit more remastered then IT.

[Rage]

Well, I do like immortal technique, but it is obviously fakeing quite a bit.



and murder counter revolutionaries personally
break a thermometer and force feed his kids mercury

oh yeah, like he did that. :rolleyes:

While Young Jeezy sings about real stuff he actually has done such as selling crack and getting ladies and having a successful career in rap music.

and no where does Jeezy say he is a rightist. He has even said in a song or two that he does not appreciate the current government.

/,,/
Rock on!

[blackstone]

Originally posted by GrandMonster [email protected] 22, 2007 10:21 pm
No I agree with Granma Sweater

Technique will force you into strategical retreat
Because I dominate guerrilla warfare in the streets
There ain't no way to picture me without a victory speech
When I reach higher positions
Without the recognition of pissed on competition
Cause I conquered there ambitions
In a systematic form like a religionist tradition
My mission is to take you, lyrically break you
Lyrically assassinate you
Lyrically incinerate your body and recreate you
To destroy the power that mentally incarcerates you
Cause even though I rip it better I could not forsake you
Your my people with the same oppressors so how could I hate you
The revolution of the mind that bring lee generates you
But when you come original people impersonate you, start to hate you
Cause the conflict is building within the ultimate sin
Is to be ashamed of your skin
My rhymes are like Jamaican over proof I make the room spin
Intoxicated flow I bleed vodka and brandy
Don't make me choke you down like Jon-Benet Ramsey
Something demands of me to rip this fucking shit uncannily
God commanded me to be a technological disease
And psychologically do battle with the best emcee's
*Inaudible* these in technique
Cause I'm the capital of revolutionary nation that's infallible
Aztec like the Hannibal
Rip your heart out of your chest and feed it to the cannibal's
Your just a fucking animal but I'm the Neo Sapien
Cause my original civilization was based upon creation
You know theirs no escaping even though your heart is racing
I'll put your best disciple on academic probation
Fuck the litigation, fuck the best rapper nominations
And fuck the president I voted for assassinations
I'm saying fuck the federal bullshit investigations
Fuck the cover up of ghetto radiation extermination
Using my people for experimentation
And if doesn't play hip hop then fuck your radio station
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/immortaltec...olutionary.html (http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/immortaltechnique/revolutionary.html)

but Koba is even better than IT
I'm a writer and rapper, and that is the worst lyrics i ever heard. I've heard IT and i think his flow is god awful. He is def not the best rapper or anywhere near the top. He's not top content wise, delivery wise or anything wise. Not even the best political or conscious emcee.


My mission is to take you, lyrically break you
Lyrically assassinate you
Lyrically incinerate your body and recreate you

lmao

then im going to lyrically reshape you
wanna come hard?ill lyrically masterbate you
call me ricky bobby, immortal tecnique will lyrically shake and bake you

lmao this guy has 3rd grade raps.

[Robespierre2.0]

young jeezy is forever, in my mind, associated with knuckle-dragging college fraternity douchebags.

[Rage]

Originally posted by Marxosaurus [email protected] 23, 2007 09:21 pm
young jeezy is forever, in my mind, associated with knuckle-dragging college fraternity douchebags.
You don't like him then, do you?

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Rock on!

[The-Spark]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23, 2007 04:43 pm
Well, I do like immortal technique, but it is obviously fakeing quite a bit.



and murder counter revolutionaries personally
break a thermometer and force feed his kids mercury

oh yeah, like he did that. :rolleyes:

While Young Jeezy sings about real stuff he actually has done such as selling crack and getting ladies and having a successful career in rap music.

and no where does Jeezy say he is a rightist. He has even said in a song or two that he does not appreciate the current government.

/,,/
Rock on!
Man, the fact that all his songs revolve around him stackin money, and counting his fuckin diamonds makes him seem capitalist to me. That, and he isnt even from Atlanta, hes from some fucking hick town. You give me evidence that Young Jeezy has done shit, and not evidence as in lyrics but actual evidence, i might believe you. But the thing about these gangster rappers, is that they dont have evidence, they just have lyrics.

O and dont get me started on 50 cent, he just didnt know how to fucking duck.

But hey, the media tells you to buy abunch of shit that young jeezy is wearing, and hey to even go and sell coke, so why dont you go and see how smart you are selling coke, cuz all the gangster movies is fake, the only people you could call gangster, is the mafia. And Don Gambino is long gone.

[midnight marauder]

But hey, the media tells you to buy abunch of shit that young jeezy is wearing, and hey to even go and sell coke, so why dont you go and see how smart you are selling coke, cuz all the gangster movies is fake, the only people you could call gangster, is the mafia. And Don Gambino is long gone.

What do you know about gangs?

[Faux Real]

Eh, anyone collaborating with R. Kelly or T.I. are simply capitalists.

Immortal Techniques lyrics are okay, but I'm at odds with his homophobia.

Azeem and his dj Zeph are the best duo I've ever heard.

Proof:

their myspace (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=129774589)

[Rage]

Originally posted by The-Spark+August 24, 2007 06:34 am--> (The-Spark @ August 24, 2007 06:34 am)
[email protected] 23, 2007 04:43 pm
Well, I do like immortal technique, but it is obviously fakeing quite a bit.



and murder counter revolutionaries personally
break a thermometer and force feed his kids mercury

oh yeah, like he did that. :rolleyes:

While Young Jeezy sings about real stuff he actually has done such as selling crack and getting ladies and having a successful career in rap music.

and no where does Jeezy say he is a rightist. He has even said in a song or two that he does not appreciate the current government.

/,,/
Rock on!
Man, the fact that all his songs revolve around him stackin money, and counting his fuckin diamonds makes him seem capitalist to me. That, and he isnt even from Atlanta, hes from some fucking hick town. You give me evidence that Young Jeezy has done shit, and not evidence as in lyrics but actual evidence, i might believe you. But the thing about these gangster rappers, is that they dont have evidence, they just have lyrics.

O and dont get me started on 50 cent, he just didnt know how to fucking duck.

But hey, the media tells you to buy abunch of shit that young jeezy is wearing, and hey to even go and sell coke, so why dont you go and see how smart you are selling coke, cuz all the gangster movies is fake, the only people you could call gangster, is the mafia. And Don Gambino is long gone. [/b]
Just because Jeezy is a capitalist does not mean he is a rightist (I said he was a rightist, not a capitalist). Maybe he is a democrat, who knows? His raps are pretty A-political.

And what does not being born in Atlanta have anything to do with it? He was born in Columbia, South Carolina. The "hick" town you speak of is the 6th largest populated city in all of Georgia (9th highest population in USA). He moved to Atlanta almost 10 years ago and all his successful rap has come after the move to Atlanta.

I am not glorifying coke trade, just making a point: "However, there is no doubt that Young Jeezy was involved at least to some degree in the illegal cocaine trade, and he is affiliated somehow with the slightly defunct Black Mafia Family." ---Wikipedia.

It seems you view gangsta rap as anyone who says they have been in a gang or sold drugs or anything associated with that. Ice T (amazing rapper, slightly political, how can you not like him?) is known as one of the starters of gangsta rap and is nothing like young jeezy lyrically or stylistically at all. What do you think about dead prez? They are often classified into the category of gangsta rap.

The media does not have much to say about young jeezy. Sure he is in the main stream, but he does not get that many plays.

Taken from young jeezys Last. Fm's weekly chart:
2nd top track: Go Getta (feat. R Kelly), 300 plays
20th top track: Bottom of the map, 89 plays

and then you look at RHCP (http://www.last.fm/music/Red+Hot+Chili+Peppers?q=rhcp):
2nd top track: Dani California, 8,632 plays
20th top track: Suck my kiss, 3,450

the 20th track by RHCP blows young jeezys top track out of the water in number of plays.

Whos stuff do you think the media would rather try and sell you, Young Jeezy, a couple of hundred plays per week or RHCP with more 10 thousand plays per week?

Honestly, I have never seen any gangster movies other than "road to perdition" with tom hanks, but I can assure you that more than the mafia is just pushing coke.
Where have you been man?

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Rock on!

[Comrade Rage]

Public Enemy is the best rap group ever.

Fight the power!!!!

[UndergroundConnexion]

hahah i like young jeezy aswell, altohugh i know the content is pure bullshit.

[Mike Rotchtickles]

fuck, technique is a rapper that on a much higher level of consciousness than young jeezy. im not saying jeezy is wack, but technique is too deep to be even compared to jeezy.
And 2pac. fuck 2pac, i never really liked his shit. so he wrote a number of deep tracks that were marketed and made popular by his beef with biggie and than his death. immortal makes him look like a girl scout.
after technique the best rapper is chief kamachie from army of the pharoes.

[Saint Street Revolution]

Originally posted by Rage+--> (Rage)Jeezy is a capitalist does not mean he is a rightist (I said he was a rightist, not a capitalist). Maybe he is a democrat, who knows? His raps are pretty A-political. [/b]

Democrats are Capitalists. Capitalism is an economic structure, not a political party. He is definitely "Capitalist" in terms of lyrics, which is indicated by this statement:


Originally posted by The-[email protected]
the fact that all his songs revolve around him stackin money, and counting his fuckin diamonds makes him seem capitalist to me.

I agree with this statement, as it is true. Most mainstream rap relates to this, rather than the likes of Public Enemy, Immortal Technique, etc. who are not nearly as mainstream anyway.


Rage
It seems you view gangsta rap as anyone who says they have been in a gang or sold drugs or anything associated with that. Ice T (amazing rapper, slightly political, how can you not like him?) is known as one of the starters of gangsta rap and is nothing like young jeezy lyrically or stylistically at all. What do you think about dead prez? They are often classified into the category of gangsta rap.

These are prominent elements of Gangsta Rap, and are usually viewed by those elements and those elements only (especially by Leftists and people who simply do not listen to Rap).

On the other hand, Ice T is, in my book, the originator of Gangsta Rap and featured acceptal lyrical content as far as drugs, gangs, etc.

On my imaginary third hand, Gangsta Rap has since then evolved. As a matter of fact, I call the first Gangsta Rappers "Old School Rappers" because of what the genre looks like today, not back then. It used to be good, now it really is all about money and diamonds and cars and all other bullshit Capitalist luxuries.

I view today's Gangsta Rap as Capitalist, "Old School Rap" as not directly, or lyrically Capitalist.

[Hampton]

Old school rap was just as about money and gold as today's music is. Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick, DMC all rapped about money and getting money, they were just 10x more better than today's rappers.

[Dominicana_1965]

Young Jeezy is seriously trash.

[OneBrickOneVoice]

uhhh... what?!? Tom Morello is the guitarist. Zack De La Rocha sings..

whoops thats what i meant i don't know why i wrote that. I realized that i wrote that after i posted it but was too lazy to go back and edit it.

[Faux Real]

I'd like to take back my previous statement and would like to say Mike Shinoda is my favorite rapper/lyricist, though not as overt about politics as some other mainstream artists but his voice and how he delivers rhymes is unequaled.

[marcocosm]

immortal technique is da shit

[Tekun]

There is no best rapper, its all a matter of preference
But if we're talking about lyrics and emceeing skills, therez a plethora of emcees that make could embarass this wack ass "rapper"

Like Hampton said, Ra - Kane - G Rap - KRS - Slick Rick are far more talented than most "rappers" today


And as far as IT, his delivery is trash and his lyrics sound forced
That and his homophobia are major flaws of this "revolutionary emcee"

[blackstone]

Originally posted by [email protected] 06, 2007 08:57 am
There is no best rapper, its all a matter of preference
But if we're talking about lyrics and emceeing skills, therez a plethora of emcees that make could embarass this wack ass "rapper"

Like Hampton said, Ra - Kane - G Rap - KRS - Slick Rick are far more talented than most "rappers" today


And as far as IT, his delivery is trash and his lyrics sound forced
That and his homophobia are major flaws of this "revolutionary emcee"
Thank you

Finally, someone who appreciates the art of emceeing and knows that just because a emcee has some political content that leans towards the left doesn't make him a ill emcee. Doesn't even make him an ill lyricist!

But let's not turn every hiphop thread into a IT tribute, this is about Young Jeezy!


I was young and dumb with a pocket full of cash
Posted on the block with a pocket full of grass
Full speed, still running from my past
But it's starting to catch up, yeah it's gaining on my ass
It's two types of niggaz, preditor and prey
I'm a preditor, I pray three times a day
...Once said, one day you'll have kids
And how you going to explain all the shit you did
I'm a soul survivor, far from a crook
She always said I was a lot smarter than I look
So I, took my dreams and made it some thousands
Then I, took my life and I made it a album
I must be dreamin'...

[Intifada]

Just read this (http://www.hiphopdx.com/blogs/AHLOT/2007/09/07/sorry-jay-z-i-can-t-support-this-.html) and saw the video.

Young Jeezy sucks man.

[Tekun]

^Yeah, guns and ice are real indicators of talent....fuckin clown :lol:
I'll take Common over this clown any day

[synthesis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 08, 2007 02:32 pm
Just read this (http://www.hiphopdx.com/blogs/AHLOT/2007/09/07/sorry-jay-z-i-can-t-support-this-.html) and saw the video.

Young Jeezy sucks man.
"Coppin more choppas
Cause n***** talk too much, like soap operas"

C'mon, he's got some good lines. Anyways, he's said it himself, he's not a rapper. His album is called "Thug Motivation," his goal is to provide inspiration.

The point of an artist like Young Jeezy is this: other 'hood folks doing the same shit, seeing their friends dying and rotting in jail, can see Young Jeezy being real on an album and doing it big in real life while making a lot of money off white kids who wanna be down with the "realness". It gives a feeling of hope for a legitimate release for their talents that also provides a sense of dignity and self-worth. Jeezy - as an artist, not in his art - is providing an alternative to the beaten path to those who need it.

It's like 50 Cent - emulate his music and you're an idiot, ready to die over some stupid shit. Study his life and proceedings and you'll find a generally respectable businessman, who's more concerned with getting people drinking Vitamin Water than Hennessey or Courvoisier. Jeezy's the same way.

[blackstone]

Guess who's bizzack (Back)
Still smell the blow in my clothes
Like Krispy Kreme, I was cookin them O's (Cookin them O's)
Like Horse shoes, I was tossin them O's
Time to re-up gotta recycle the flow (Cycle the flow)
I'm emotional (I hug the block)
Aye, I'm so emotional (I love my glock)
Cash rules everything around me, so what's realer?
Bout the skrilla, call me a ghostface killa (Yep)
It's kinda hard to be drug-free
When Georgia Power won't give a nigga lights free
Switch hustle, been killin 'em ever since (Since)
It pays to tell the truth dawg, it only makes sense

[blackstone]

I'm talking bout summertime cookouts and wintertime flights
It ain't nothing we hearing shots all night
Ford Taurus pulls up everybody run
White boys jump out running wit they guns (5-0, 5-0)
Ford Taurus leave everybody came back
Hope dem boyz didn't find my sack

[Intifada]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10, 2007 06:28 pm
The point of an artist like Young Jeezy is this: other 'hood folks doing the same shit, seeing their friends dying and rotting in jail, can see Young Jeezy being real on an album and doing it big in real life while making a lot of money off white kids who wanna be down with the "realness". It gives a feeling of hope for a legitimate release for their talents that also provides a sense of dignity and self-worth. Jeezy - as an artist, not in his art - is providing an alternative to the beaten path to those who need it.
I understand where you are coming from, but in the long run this is not going to liberate those young African Americans who live in the ghetto.

I prefer the Dead Prez message.

[blackstone]

From Dead Prez song Hell Yeah

My homie got a 25 automatic added to the camper
Nigga get the phone book look up in the yellow page
Lemme tell you how we fend to get paid
We gonna order pizza and when we see the driver
We gonna stick the 25 up in his face
Lets ride, stepping outside like warriors
Head to the notorious Southside
One weapon to the four of us
Hiding in the corridor until we see the dominos car headlights
White boy in the wrong place at the right time
Soon as the car door open up he mine
We roll up quick and put the pistol to his nose
By the look on his face he probably shitted in his clothes
You know what this is
It's a stick up
Gimme the do' from your pickups
You ran into the wrong niggaz
We running down the block hot with these pizza boxes
So we split up and met back at the apartment

Because this is def going to liberate us young African Americans in the hood. :D

[Intifada]

Yeah well they kind of moved away from the more revolutionary ideals they expressed in "Let's Get Free".

Like I said, I have nothing wrong with what Young Jeezy is saying, I just think he sucks, and therefore choose not to listen to his music.

50 Cent is the same.

"The Power Of The Dollar" is a good album, it's the stuff he has released since that just doesn't appeal to me.

[synthesis]

Originally posted by Intifada+September 11, 2007 04:43 am--> (Intifada @ September 11, 2007 04:43 am)
[email protected] 10, 2007 06:28 pm
The point of an artist like Young Jeezy is this: other 'hood folks doing the same shit, seeing their friends dying and rotting in jail, can see Young Jeezy being real on an album and doing it big in real life while making a lot of money off white kids who wanna be down with the "realness". It gives a feeling of hope for a legitimate release for their talents that also provides a sense of dignity and self-worth. Jeezy - as an artist, not in his art - is providing an alternative to the beaten path to those who need it.
I understand where you are coming from, but in the long run this is not going to liberate those young African Americans who live in the ghetto.

I prefer the Dead Prez message. [/b]
Yeah, sorry but Dead Prez aren't really doing much right now. And by right now I mean never. Their subject matter is revolutionary but very rarely do their songs actually promote revolutionary activity beyond stealing from the cash register and giving shitty advice for DMV scams. Oh, and "slap a white boy."

The fact is that the example of a Young Jeezy is at least providing hope for the type of folks whose primary concern is selling that next gram so they can pay rent.

Hey, now that we've done it, we can just talk about it on a record, tell a story, and make millions! We don't even have to be that good! Sounds fine to me, it's been the model of rap music for a while now.

P.S. dead prez have the same attitude towards homosexuals that Immortal Technique and most rappers are constantly getting shit on here for, they just don't express them very often so they can retain that crucial white college audience that pays their bills and attends their shows.

[Faux Real]

There is a misconception about Dead Prez, the video pretty much explains the content in their song "Hell Yeah". They show(I'd call it satire) how a sizable majority in urban ghettos can try/have tried to get by, out of desperation, and end up locked in prison for merely trying to survive in a world so against them.

Watch for yourself. (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DlVD EDvob2U4&ei=wXzoRqz7MJ2ugwPrmsSyBg&usg=AFQjCNG2pfdOEEOxI-E_ognn0Spxxm3K8w&sig2=sszWiKKQVbge21cxTpjJnw)

They even get arrested at the end.

[blackstone]

Yeah, i've seen the video before, i think it's a great video.

But the song was produced first and the video way later. The song and video is about "banging on the system". The video portrays the threat of being locked up for cheating a system that cheats millions of disenfranchised black men, but not the song.

Alot of music videos are deeper than the actual songs they correspond too..

[ack]

This thread is TL;DR.

But I just have one thing to say.

Busdriver is clearly the best rapper of all time.

[Rage]

I agree with the above post.

I heard that Jeezy is releasing a "Thug Motivation 102" which would be great.


jeezy=sounds like jesus. If jesus had a nick name it would be jeezy. Coincidence, I think not.

/,,/
Rock on!

[synthesis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 03:58 pm
I agree with the above post.

I heard that Jeezy is releasing a "Thug Motivation 102" which would be great.


jeezy=sounds like jesus. If jesus had a nick name it would be jeezy. Coincidence, I think not.

/,,/
Rock on!
Dude, it already came out, almost a year ago.
http://music.msn.com/album/?album=49773257



Busdriver is clearly the best rapper of all time.

You gotta be fucking joking.

[Rage]

You are ridiculous. Young jeezy>busdriver, but only by a little.

/,,/
Rock on!

[blackstone]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 10:58 pm


jeezy=sounds like jesus. If jesus had a nick name it would be jeezy. Coincidence, I think not.

/,,/
Rock on!
LMAO, i agree. And the bible would def be renamed to Spiritual Motivation 101

[Comrade_Scott]

hes good, not the best however, that is a toss up between NWA and 2pac ahh who am i kinnding Tupac first and then NWA then everybody else

[IronLion]

Tupac Shakur, Public Enemy, KRS-One, Eric B. & Rakim, Paris, Immortal Technique, dead prez, GangStarr, Wu-Tang Clan, Brand Nubian, De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, N.W.A., Lupe Fiasco, Ras Kass, Common, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, The Roots, Nas, Lauryn Hill, Pharoahe Monch and so on.

Thread closed. :lol:

[The Grey Blur]

+ Binary Star and Jedi Mind Tricks.