A Too the book Society

[The-Spark]

Okay, So say we have a revolution, we instate a socialist society etc etc.

How can we make sure that it will work, and that theres no corruption, and that we can truly make direct democracy? We know it can work, yet how can we make it work, and not screw up, and acually install a democracy for the workers.

Also, how should a true socialist government work? How will the direct democracy work, who would be elected and to what position etc. I know the ultimate goal is to make no state, but how will we do it at first?

Please, fill my curious mind.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

Some of your questions are left for the workers and people to decide.

Direct democracy can't be compromised unless somone who was distributed a task did something against the people's wishes, in which case he would then lose his task in a typical "recall" fashion. The system will work because the community is behind it. How will a capitalist be able to convince the workers theirs is a better alternative when they're living better and in fact "wealthier" after the revolution?

Direct democracy can't work if we expect the federal government to be as active as it currently is. Of course most of the time the Congress only meets to vote on naming something or another, which can be done by worker councils and local communities.

To abolish the state we need to achieve a certain level of technological development where most labor is replaced by machines and where the local communities are fully self-relliant [that's not to say there can't be trade during socialism. There certainly needs to be if we want most local communities to survive].

[Coggeh]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2007 05:34 am
To abolish the state we need to achieve a certain level of technological development where most labor is replaced by machines and where the local communities are fully self-relliant [that's not to say there can't be trade during socialism. There certainly needs to be if we want most local communities to survive]. [/font]
Well we have to spread the revolution as quick as possible so we can trade with other socialist nations and advance easier towards communism .

Firstly, alot of members have mixed opinions on socialism itself . Alot don't call for the dictatorship of the proletariat etc and want to advance to communism as fast as possible (although admit this can't be done instantaneously) They stress the point that in socialism a bureaucracy will take the power and eventually lead back to capitalism e.g USSR.

But this is why we call for real workers democracy , elected candidates will be subject to instant recall if the people feel their abusing their power .Everything will be controlled democratically by workers themselves and so they will serve their class and advance socialism into a workers state .

Corruption won't seek in because the bourgeois won't be aloud to settle . Politicians always look out for their class , which is why our candidates in the cwi take only a average workers wage so they will actively represent the workers . So if the workers are running the place democratically they will only serve the people and not the bourgeois or themselves personally.

[The-Spark]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21, 2007 05:47 am


But this is why we call for real workers democracy , elected candidates will be subject to instant recall if the people feel their abusing their power .Everything will be controlled democratically by workers themselves and so they will serve their class and advance socialism into a workers state .


How will we go about installing the direct democracy and how do we make sure that rightist views dont come about with a new worker, and will it be a soviet democracy or how will this direct democracy work?

[Ashslye]

Right on Coggy. I have always said public officials should be paid minimum wage, or the average salary of a worker. Thanks much.

[The-Spark]

wow i feel stupid, i didnt even notice gene costa's reply. my bad gene! :P

[Janus]

Most of your questions have already been covered before:

socialist democracy (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=62195)
transitional socialism (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=65787)
socialist state (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=60508)
direct democracy (http://www.revleft.com/index.php?showtopic=64851&st=25)


How will we go about installing the direct democracy
It's foundations would have already been planted during the revolution through the worker's councils/groups which have been set up in order to defend and manage the interests of the proletariat.


and how do we make sure that rightist views dont come about with a new worker
I don't think we have to worry much about political conservatives following the revolution as the political direction of the future society would've been decided. However, there may still be some social conservative trends that need to be debated and confronted by progressive leftists everywhere.