What to do with the public airwaves?

[Schrödinger's Cat]

What is to be done about television without any corporations running the [no pun intended] show? I see so many possibilities, but I'd like some other ideas before chiming in. :D

[RedCommieBear]

As far as distribution, I'd think a system of IPTV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPTV) in addition to current cable/satellite options would be pretty cool.. That way, you could pretty much have an unlimited amount of channels, with every average Joe able to contribute.

As far as content; well, there wouldn't be any commericials. Past those 2 things, I'm not sure much will change. People will still want to watch sports, still like comedies, etc.

[cenv]

Obviously TV will not just go away. The TV industry will be rebuilt in a more democratic and collective form. However, I think it's reasonable to expect a decline in the popularity of TV along with a general decrease in consumption following the revolution. Part of the reason TV is so popular IMO is that by the time people get home, they're so tired from work and so sick of their shitty lives under capitalism that they just sit down in front of the TV.

[Janus]

Essentially the same thing would happen with media as all other industries that have fallen under the workers' control. I don't know if ratings would go down as a result of the changed programming or overall changed attitudes towards televised media though I would think that more people would attempt to get involved in television broadcasting rather than remain idle viewers.

[OcelotAdaska]

But, how long could we expect before TV is back on?
I mean, im guesing an year, Or two before 'Normal' Programing is back?
Also, what will happen to TV-Shows? Will they be the same thing, Example, The simpsons? Just changed around so they dont hide any Capitalist propoganda?

Also, what would happen in the way of DVD'S/Videos?
Obviously alot of stuff would have to be recalled, but who would do it?
I mean, im not too keen on walking into some randoms house, and expecting them to nicely hand over everything that i tell them too?
But thing im most worried about is radio..
Rebles will probubly set up .. Well, Propoganda broadcasting stations..
It would take a few years to get to them..

Still, i suppose its not worth worrying about.. Someone will do something about it No doubt ;S

[RedCommieBear]

Also, what will happen to TV-Shows? Will they be the same thing, Example, The simpsons? Just changed around so they dont hide any Capitalist propoganda?

Also, what would happen in the way of DVD'S/Videos?
Obviously alot of stuff would have to be recalled, but who would do it?
I mean, im not too keen on walking into some randoms house, and expecting them to nicely hand over everything that i tell them too?

I don't think there'd be any reason to do any of that. I mean, no informed citizen would come to support capitalism because Homer was a funny capitalist in You Only Move Twice. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Only_Move_Twice)

Sometimes art, literature, and movies are just that.

[Tatarin]

But, how long could we expect before TV is back on?

That depends on how much damage there would be to the TV network, during the revolution. As far as I know, the Cuban Revolution ended without any serious damages on any media network.


Also, what will happen to TV-Shows?

Why would people stop watching TV series after the revolution?


Also, what would happen in the way of DVD'S/Videos?
Obviously alot of stuff would have to be recalled, but who would do it?

This seems all too authoritarian to me. Why recall anything? And to what end if people can still download it? Burning movies to DVDs are pretty easy, and if you don't know how, surely one of your neighbours know. Or, you could download it and watch it on your computer.

It's been almost 8 years (at least) since wide spread internet "piracy" started - imagine the technological growth in broadband and computers the next 10, 20 years. Soon, people will probably be able to download the whole Simpsons series within an hour.

The point is that it would be unnecessary and a big waste of time to chase every person who downloads anything not "according to authority x". What kind of programs are capitalistic? Who would decide that? Who would enforce it?

The only way to do that is to get rid of the internet itself, if anything.


Rebles will probubly set up .. Well, Propoganda broadcasting stations..
It would take a few years to get to them..

Sure, let them. To silence them would not give us a good face. Defeat them by discussion, by proof that the new society has left their reactionary old system of greed and moved forwards.

[Kropotkin Has a Posse]

Sure, let them. To silence them would not give us a good face. Defeat them by discussion, by proof that the new society has left their reactionary old system of greed and moved forwards.
Yes- Fox News and its jingoist tripe do more harm for conservatism than good, for example. This wouldn't be any different, especially since capitalists only know how to present television that is trying to sell you something.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

"The people are free, I'm not rich, you're better off financially and socially, communities around the world are working towards abolishing the state and money... Oh the humanity."

:D

[RevMARKSman]

Also, what will happen to TV-Shows? Will they be the same thing, Example, The simpsons? Just changed around so they dont hide any Capitalist propoganda?

A) The Simpsons doesn't "hide" capitalist propaganda. If it's there, it's there. I don't watch it, I wouldn't know.
B) There'd still be TV series(es?) Except not so many would be tripe, and Joss Whedon would write more of them. :ph34r:

DVDs/Movies/Blu-Ray - new ones would not have copy protection, no more need for it. Plus, they wouldn't cost anything, but you already knew that. No recalls, or I'll be getting a machine gun. No one touch the Firefly...!

Radio stations - completely public, first come first serve. Hopefully there will be no more Christian stations. If people are trying to broadcast on the same frequency in the same area, both are going to be notified somehow and they'll have to talk it out.


Part of the reason TV is so popular IMO is that by the time people get home, they're so tired from work and so sick of their shitty lives under capitalism that they just sit down in front of the TV.

Therefore, if TV writers/producers want people to view their art, they'll write better shows, and there will be less crap, like I said above.

[Saint Street Revolution]

Originally posted by RevMARKSMan+--> (RevMARKSMan)Hopefully there will be no more Christian stations[/b]

But there most likely well. As you say, radio will be completely free, first come, first serve. Nothing will stop them. Also, if I might ask, why do you hope so? Maybe I'm missing something, but don't blame me for I do not listen to Christian stations.


Originally posted by [email protected]
The Simpsons doesn't "hide" capitalist propaganda. If it's there, it's there. I don't watch it, I wouldn't know.

It's there, just hidden :P I don't watch the Simpsons either or really any TV shows that much, for that matter. Commercials and stuff like that can be called "capitalist propoganda" anyway. Subliminal Messaging is a different story... :ph34r:


RevMARKSman
Therefore, if TV writers/producers want people to view their art, they'll write better shows, and there will be less crap, like I said above.

Hm, I didn't think of that...yet another reason for revolution. Oh so many reasons :wacko: