Communism, Socialsim, Etc - ..............just see if i unde

[Veni Vidi Vici]

Tell me if thats what all these words mean. I'm trying to get some info/study on them by myself. So lets see..here.

Communism: Control under a dictator, who controls the economy and the means of distribution and production.

Socialism: Kinda..like..between capitalism and communism...Just a government controling the means of the economy..(I'm not good on socialism) it just looks like communism...whats the diff. Is it right, you have to abolish capitalism---socialism---communism.

Capitalism: When a big business is just mainly wealthy and gets money and can control. and stuff like that

Fascism: Mainly, Like the nazis, a opressive dictator who controls everything, and uses powerful force, and is racist and stuff like that. Kinda like communism alittle bit...not sure. and something about socioeconomic like controling the social stuff and economy.

is that what all those words mean.....comments...anything i need to change or brush up on.

[Pete]

Well. Let me get you first before someone takes out their hydrolic jack.

Communism: A classless society (note not government) where everyone is equal and free.

Socialism: The stage between Capitalism and Communism where the means of production are in the hands of the state/workers. This is the tranisition to the classless society and is what most people call "Communism" today. Also see the Dictatorship of the Proletariat

Capitalism: an economic system where the wealth is in the hands of the few and they often hold great political power/influence over the state. Everything centres first around profit and public image. The Plutocracy rules and often tries to give the illusion of a "democracy."

Fascism: also called Corporatism. Hitler's system was really...wierd. But fascism is defined by extreme nationalism/patriotism/racism in one country and the government runs like a business usually (Italy). Another thing is that private ownership is essential (capitalism).

[Veni Vidi Vici]

thanks for brushing up on them for me...:). I knew that communism was classless, and what not. I just typed really fast and put these words in more of a..kinda lower form. but thanks for giving me a better explanation of this stuff that i can understand..:)

l8er.

[Nick Yves]

Communism does not need a dictator. It is a classless society of course, and a planned economy. There is no upper class exploitation, and everyone gets equal wealth. Every member of society is valued, no one profits off of anyone.

[FatFreeMilk]

Is everyone really free in a communist society?There's like so much stuff you wouldn't be able to do.

[James]

"There's like so much stuff you wouldn't be able to do."

Like...

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Quote: from FatFreeMilk on 12:32 am on June 6, 2003
Is everyone really free in a communist society?There's like so much stuff you wouldn't be able to do.


Is everyone really free in a capitalist society? There's like so much stuff that you wouldn't be able to do. Like live free of the exploitation by the elitist, aristocratic bourgeoisie.


(Edited by Victorcommie at 2:37 pm on June 6, 2003)

[Dirty Commie]

The one thing you can't do is exploit others...What a tragic freedom to give up.(sarcastic)

[Blibblob]

"The one thing you can't do is exploit others...What a tragic freedom to give up.(sarcastic)"

And removing that freedom removes more.

Such as owning whatever the hell you want(no more, should I get Pepsi or Coke.... hmm, they taste the same), no starting your own company, and no being mean(:)).

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Quote: from Blibblob on 12:26 pm on June 6, 2003
"The one thing you can't do is exploit others...What a tragic freedom to give up.(sarcastic)"

And removing that freedom removes more.

Such as owning whatever the hell you want(no more, should I get Pepsi or Coke.... hmm, they taste the same), no starting your own company, and no being mean(:)).


I would like to reply with a quote from the Communist Manifesto:
Communism deprives no man of the power to appropriate the products of society; all that it does is to deprive him of the power to subjugate the labor of others by means of such appropriation.

[zorkon]

Te communist manifesto is not in my mind the ultimate answer to a very important question. The truth of the matter is that in either system you give up freedoms and recieve in exchange the fruits of government. The only system with total freedom is anarchy, a fool's religion.

So, one gives up the right to property. The gaurentees that follow are rights to life and liberty baised on the certainty of food, shelter, and a slice of the pie so to speak.

THe only alternitave, capitalism, gaurentees property. But, property is theft and carries with it the certainity of greed, ambition, domination by corporartions, explotation of the labor, and a stagnat society.

In other words, America.

[SarahDoubleyou]

My friend once said "America smells like cheese". I'm sorry, I just thought that was funny.