New to all these Ism's - ....

[fascism101]

Okay, i know who Che is and stuff. But im not to big on all these ISMS. Mainly i know about Communism, Capitalism, Anarchism,Fascism.i dont want to sound stupid. Can someone explain some others ones to me. I would really appreciate it. Cause I've always been intrested. I've asked a lot of people at school and stuff, but they dont even know what I'm talking about. Some people at school don't even know what a dictator is.

(Edited by fascism101 at 3:03 am on May 31, 2003)

[Urban Rubble]

A dictator is a guy with a potato between his legs.

Just kidding. A dictator can be alot of things. Basically it is a person who stays in power without stepping down or having elections.

That's are really basic answer but that's mostly what it comes down to.

As for all the "isms" there are too many to list.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

welcome, comrade.
for political definitions, your best bet is http://www.marxists.org

[fascism101]

Thanks :)

[ComradeJunichi]

Just wondering, it says commie in the avatar but fascism in your ID. ?

[fascism101]

i know..lol. i just wanted a username that had something to do with like..political terms or w/e so i thought fascism. thats all.

[fascism101]

i like the che, with the american flag avatar better.

[Nobody]

Soee isms:
Trotskyism- people who agree with Leon Trotsky, all the west must fall to make communism work.
Leninism- people who agree with the idea of a revolutionary vanguard.
Stalinism- I don't know. Stalinist are crazy.
Pol Pot- not an ism, not communist but often assoicated with it. Return to a farming ideal, thats why he killed everyone who lived in cities.
I'll post more if I can remember them.

[FAB]

here is a willful explain

http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/wim/wyl

(Edited by Molotow at 4:16 am on June 1, 2003)

[synthesis]

Stalinism as an 'ideology' (as opposed to a pejorative) stands in contrast to Trotskyism in that Trotsky believed that for communism to succeed, world revolution must first occur, while Stalin believed that socialism should be first constructed in one country, i.e. Russia, which then spreads it globally. Stalin was the real "National Socialist."

That's the central difference between the two ideologies, if I'm not mistaken. Both are Leninist and therefore totalitarian in nature.

(Edited by DyerMaker at 6:46 am on June 1, 2003)

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Quote: from Molotow on 9:15 pm on May 31, 2003
here is a willful explain

http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/wim/wyl

(Edited by Molotow at 4:16 am on June 1, 2003)


Molotow, that site is horribly biased, it may be good for Maoists, but it does a poor job of explaining other Socialist ideologies. Did anyone read the 'Marxists' link on Molotow's site?

(Edited by Victorcommie at 11:45 am on June 1, 2003)

[Socialsmo o Muerte]

I cant believe someone recommended Marxist.org!!

Are you for real. Slightly biased source.

Dude, learn for yourself. Rather than getting other people's interpretations on things.

[Pete]

I agree with Socialsmo, except I suggest reading others interpretations, many of them, and then creating your own.

[sc4r]

Be very cautious indeed about getting deeply into 'isms'. there are far too many people who have a superficial understanding (almost dictionary level) of many 'ism's' and no real fundamental understanding of any of them.

I'd say that a fairly good understanding of Liberalism and its historical development is the prerequisite for understanding the economic side of most arguments while a good understanding of the various ways democracy has been implemented provides most of the rest.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Quote: from Socialsmo o Muerte on 12:47 pm on June 1, 2003
I cant believe someone recommended Marxist.org!!

Are you for real. Slightly biased source.

Dude, learn for yourself. Rather than getting other people's interpretations on things.


where do you suggest he go to learn the definitions of "...ism"s. Marxists.org acuurately defines political figures, political terms, political events, and etc., it may be a bit biased, but knowing others' interpretations of things is very important. It's not nearly as biased as that Maoist site someone offered.

[革命者]

Quote: from fascism101 on 3:56 am on May 31, 2003
Okay, i know who Che is and stuff. But im not to big on all these ISMS. Mainly i know about Communism, Capitalism, Anarchism,Fascism.i dont want to sound stupid. Can someone explain some others ones to me. I would really appreciate it. Cause I've always been intrested. I've asked a lot of people at school and stuff, but they dont even know what I'm talking about. Some people at school don't even know what a dictator is.

(Edited by fascism101 at 3:03 am on May 31, 2003)
hehe-- i got in here thinking it was a newbie called Fascism with a question like what are isms-- quite funny, really!!

[革命者]

Quote: from fascism101 on 3:56 am on May 31, 2003
Okay, i know who Che is and stuff. But im not to big on all these ISMS. Mainly i know about Communism, Capitalism, Anarchism,Fascism.i dont want to sound stupid. Can someone explain some others ones to me. I would really appreciate it. Cause I've always been intrested. I've asked a lot of people at school and stuff, but they dont even know what I'm talking about. Some people at school don't even know what a dictator is.

(Edited by fascism101 at 3:03 am on May 31, 2003)
hehe-- i got in here thinking it was a newbie called Fascism with a question like what are isms-- quite funny, really!!

[Socialsmo o Muerte]

Quote: from Victorcommie on 10:39 pm on June 1, 2003

where do you suggest he go to learn the definitions of "...ism"s. Marxists.org acuurately defines political figures, political terms, political events, and etc., it may be a bit biased, but knowing others' interpretations of things is very important. It's not nearly as biased as that Maoist site someone offered.


I suggest he learn from books. And from different perspective and not allow himself to be blinded by the glory of the Marxist view like some of you lot clearly have,

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Socialismo, reading a wide array of different people's perspectives on the subject, would have the same result as reading a wide array of books on the subject, after all, books are simply peoples' perspectives on things, are thay not? Marxists.org is a good place to find information, but one should not be limited to Marxists.org, obviously. It was simply a suggestion, like any other.

[apathy maybe]

Maybe each of us should post a definition of a few terms, then fascism101 can read them. This will not only save him but also others from having to find books and stuff. To that end maybe somebody should sticky this thread.
I'ld be just as interested in seeing what each person thinks of the various isms.

edit: here is the Wikipedia list http://wikipedia.com/wiki/Political_science

(Edited by apathy maybe at 5:17 pm on June 8, 2003)