Iraqis support nationalised oil company...

[Cheung Mo]

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/...em/itemID/16779 (http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/16779)

If it were not for that pesky Mohammed, Iraq would be in a revolutionary situation right now....Fuck Islamism. Fuck capitalism.

[Tower of Bebel]

The arab world has always liked nationalisation of its resources. Saddam became popular because, although he was a dictator, he used some of the oil revenues to help his people (+ of course his so called anti-imperialist speeches and the lack of a political alternative).

[Labor Shall Rule]

You're right.

There is a revolutionary situation in Iraq, it is the task of the communists to build a revolutionary party in response to the threats posed by right-wing populists, religious zealots, and fascists, for each of these groups have fought, in its own way, for leadership and authority among the workers in the past years since the occupation and invasion.

There is strikes and walk-outs daily; there was actually a violent confrontation between postal workers and police, journalists are striking currently, and the oil workers' strike has delayed the privatization of the oil industry entirely. The class struggle is heightening, and the question now is, will we be able to organize and cooridinate this social upheavel in order to implement the act of overthrowing the social order altogether through concerted political action? It can only be done if there is an organization that can lead the working class through a struggle until they conquer power for themselves

[Spirit of Spartacus]

Originally posted by Cheung [email protected] 11, 2007 09:27 pm
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/...em/itemID/16779 (http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/16779)

If it were not for that pesky Mohammed, Iraq would be in a revolutionary situation right now....Fuck Islamism. Fuck capitalism.
Iraq is in a revolutionary situation, comrade.

But you know, something shameful is occuring in Iraq at the moment. The large and significant Iraqi Communist Party, which could have played a vital role in fighting the imperialist aggression, is now collaborating with the puppet government set up by the occupation, and has even accepted ministries under the puppet government.

There are some communists who have joined the larger anti-imperialist resistance. But the Iraqi Communist Party itself is an active agent of the imperialists.

If you were an Iraqi worker, would you support the Resistance which fights for your rights and liberation, or would you support the Communist Party, which has betrayed you and everything it stood for?

When we communists betray the masses, we have no right to whine about it, comrade.

It may sound clichéd, but I'll say it: The people aren't stupid. :P

[partizan604]

It may sound clichéd, but I'll say it: The people aren't stupid.

yes they are not. Iraqi people are scared, and they can't believe anyone, any power occupying Iraq right now. There are no leaders to follow, no ideas to obtain for people. I won't say: "Fuck Islamism" - i think islamistic movement can bring people together to fight with capitalists. i better say: "Fuck Capitalism"

[Karl Marx's Camel]

If it were not for that pesky Mohammed, Iraq would be in a revolutionary situation right now....

So here you say:

* Because of one man Iraq is not in a revolutionary situation. One man

* You also seem to imply that support of a particular nationalization equals a revolutionary people.

I'm not the one to adhere to dogma, but the first seem to be a very anti-materialist position and the last liberal welfare-ist at best .

[Labor Shall Rule]

You should say "Fuck Islamism" because it's victory would grind the working class organizations of Iraq into powder.

[Labor Shall Rule]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12, 2007 08:04 am
* You also seem to imply that support of a particular nationalization equals a revolutionary people.

I'm not the one to adhere to dogma, but the first seem to be a very anti-materialist position and the last liberal welfare-ist at best .
I think (he can correct me if I am wrong, and consider your post) that he equated the demand for the nationalization of oil supplies as a narrative of their wider demands to end what the General Federation of Iraqi Trade Unions calls "economic imperialism", as countered to privatization of that branch of industry, which would of decreased the wages of the workers there as a whole.

The fact that a majority of Iraqis feel that way shows their opposition to measures instituted by their very own imperialist puppet-state, which actually is not a "liberal welfare-ist" or "anti-materialist", considering that it is indeed revolutionary that there is a national sentiment against the actions taken against their so-called popular government. This anger against the privatization, shown by the militancy of the Basra Oil Workers Union, is indeed revolutionary.