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midnight marauder
11th August 2007, 05:37
I know, I know. I haven't bought an album in years. But seriously:
50 Cent is going to outsell rival Kanye West -- or quit trying. The beefy bullet target has proclaimed he will give up his career as a solo artist if West outsells him when the two both release new CDs on Sept. 11.
"Let's raise the stakes. If Kanye West sells more records than 50 Cent on Sept. 11, I'll no longer [perform] music. I'll write music and work with my other artists, but I won't put out any more solo albums," 50 tells the New York Daily News. "They would like to see Kanye West give me a problem because I've worked myself into a space where I've become the favourite. Everybody roots [for] the underdog when he goes against the favourite."
The "favourite" might be a bit of a strong word, though. 50 Cent's new album, Curtis, has been delayed several times from its original due date of June 26 because of last-minute additions to the album after the album's first two singles "Straight to the Bank" and "Amusement Park" failed to make as big an impact as expected. "Straight to the Bank" peaked at No. 30 on Billboard's Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs charts and has since falled off, while "Amusement Park" climbed to a meager No. 57. And Fiddy has already prepared a bit of out for himself, claiming West's record label is going to fix sales figures of his new album, Graduation.
"And I bet this: When Kanye West's sales come in, he's gonna have a 70 per cent decrease 'cause Def Jam is gonna buy records [the first week] to keep him closer to 50 Cent," the rapper declares. "So, watch the first week and then watch the second week. Watch his ass drop off the planet."
50 Cent's last album, The Massacre, sold 4.85 million copies in the U.S. compared to West's 2.8 million in sales for his last, Late Registration; however, West's disc was critically lauded and won the hip-hopper three Grammys. Not that 50 Cent cares about critical acclaim.
"I didn't get one trophy for The Massacre," 50 tells the New York Daily News. "I don't get trophies, I get cheques. He gets the trophies. And I'll be sitting here like, 'It's cool 'cause I get the cheque.'"
Well, at least this fine, upstanding artist has his priorities in the right place, and we're sure Curtis will be yet another ingenious, reflective look at societal norms that's sure to shift the cultural paradigm into a new era of clairvoyance. That or 50 Cent is going to make a wad more cash, bump up his clothing line sales and maybe release another totally awesome and wickedly violent video game! We sure know whose album we'll be supporting by buying their album on Sept. 11.
source: http://www.dose.ca/music/story.html?id=dd6...7a9fd6c&k=22385 (http://www.dose.ca/music/story.html?id=dd648454-805c-4165-be8e-698457a9fd6c&k=22385)
The fate of our culture rests on September 11. We cannot take risks. There will be some collateral damge, yes: Kanye West will get even more rich. But in the end, the human race will have come out triumphant. Fulfill your civic duty and buy this album.
anarchista feminista
11th August 2007, 07:47
He's kidding, right? :blink: That's just... weird and lame. I refuse to buy either cd.
More Fire for the People
11th August 2007, 15:59
50 Cent ain't shit except some poppy songs that sound half-way decent on the dance floor [ plus some loosening up ]. Kanye West is a much more talented, more conscious musician who can still get down like Ludacris & Lil Jon. 50 Cent is just the Britney of hip hop.
hajduk
11th August 2007, 16:05
50 cent with his atitude destroying what PUBLIC ENEMY doing for years and that is to stop predjuce about the afro-americans in US....50 cent presenting the black kriminals and with that he also making money so... <_<
Red October
12th August 2007, 03:28
Originally posted by
[email protected] 11, 2007 10:05 am
50 cent with his atitude destroying what PUBLIC ENEMY doing for years and that is to stop predjuce about the afro-americans in US....50 cent presenting the black kriminals and with that he also making money so... <_<
I agree. Public Enemy is both better creatively and in socially aware content. 50 Cent is just bringing down what PE and other rappers have tried to do for music and society.
Tekun
12th August 2007, 06:15
Both artists are wack
Kanye's stuff climbs the charts on another person's creativity, he steals other ppl's vocals-instrumentals-concepts and mixes them to make his own brand of hiphop...most of the time
And 50, well his entire act (music and image) are a joke
He's single handedly bringing down the level of hiphop in the mainstream
Forget these two clowns, stick to underground hiphop
Nothing Human Is Alien
12th August 2007, 08:14
Hiphopraganda!! http://www.sunriseabove.com
:)
Orkounter revolutionary
12th August 2007, 11:22
Don't buy either, by some Immortal Technique and Wu Tang clan
and shoot at 50 cent
hajduk
12th August 2007, 14:41
Originally posted by Orkounter
[email protected] 12, 2007 10:22 am
and shoot at 50 cent
with 10 bullets becouse if use 9 he will survive :D
Orkounter revolutionary
14th August 2007, 05:08
According to the dude from Korn he won't survive the tenth
Faux Real
14th August 2007, 05:50
Ehh, I hold a grudge against Kanye cuz of his ignorance to just state that "Bush doesn't care about black people" instead of making a much more accurate and correct statement on the economic system and working class as a whole.
I do find it funny that people still buy albums too. Anything on BET and MTV sucks.
midnight marauder
14th August 2007, 06:54
So George Bush cares about poor black folk? lol
He felt vary strongly about the subject. He made a comment off-script as best he could articulate at the time about the fact that the response would have been different if it was an affluent white community that got hit. It was rough, but it really was a class and race oriented speech. The media focused on the most polemic comment and forgot about the rest of his analysis (not unlike the whole Hugo Chavez ordeal at the UN where he called him a devil before going on to make a brilliant anti-imperialist speech which was similarly forgotten). And he backed that up in the countless interviews he was involved in after the fact.*
And not only that, but he was one of the only major media celebrities to do so in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, and exposed a lot of people to these ideas that wouldn't have otherwised made any connection at all between class and race to the issue.
Which isn't at all unlike Kanye West...he's been at the forefront of progressive issues before, like the incident when he went on MTV and lambasted the use of the words "gay" and "fag" among other instances of heterosexism in popular culture. Sadly, he's still in the minority of performers to do so in the hip hop community.
This thread was started as a joke but I really don't understand all the anti-Kanye criticism. I think he's a pretty terrific artist.
Oh and before I forget, 50 Cent wasn't really shot nine tims...According to the media outlets that reported on the shooting at the time as well as the police report on the crime, he was only shot three times. He was shot at nine times. His whole career is a lie! :lol:
*He's interviewed briefly in Spike Lee's When the Levees Broke: A Requiem in Four Parts, a documentary every American should watch.
Purple
15th August 2007, 06:28
I actually think Kanye West makes some quality hip-hop/rap music. Even though I dislike his portrayal of women, which is a common trait in that kind of music. I remember that he said that he attempted to do for hip hop music what Pink Floyd`s The Wall did for rock, and even though he probably missed that goal a tad I still consider him a serious artist that doesnt have to rely on the stereotypical alpha male image to sell music.
Freigemachten
15th August 2007, 08:24
I just wanna say that it's odd to see an article not written by an American about an American rapper.
Fiddy spells his favs with just an o, and his money comes on checks.
More Fire for the People
15th August 2007, 13:48
Originally posted by
[email protected] 11, 2007 11:15 pm
Kanye's stuff climbs the charts on another person's creativity, he steals other ppl's vocals-instrumentals-concepts and mixes them to make his own brand of hiphop...most of the time
This is a bad thing?
Pirate Utopian
15th August 2007, 14:08
I liked Kanye's first album, the shit he makes now sucks.
Bilan
15th August 2007, 14:11
Originally posted by
[email protected] 14, 2007 02:50 pm
Ehh, I hold a grudge against Kanye cuz of his ignorance to just state that "Bush doesn't care about black people" instead of making a much more accurate and correct statement on the economic system and working class as a whole.
I do find it funny that people still buy albums too. Anything on BET and MTV sucks.
In the context of when it was said, it was appropriate.
Sugar Hill Kevis
15th August 2007, 14:34
Originally posted by Compań
[email protected] 12, 2007 08:14 am
Hiphopraganda!! http://www.sunriseabove.com
:)
shameless plug :P
But yeah, I reccomend http://www.sunriseabove.com
If Sun outsells 50 cent do you recon he'll still give up music? ;)
Faux Real
15th August 2007, 16:31
Originally posted by Tierra y Libertad+August 15, 2007 06:11 am--> (Tierra y Libertad @ August 15, 2007 06:11 am)
[email protected] 14, 2007 02:50 pm
Ehh, I hold a grudge against Kanye cuz of his ignorance to just state that "Bush doesn't care about black people" instead of making a much more accurate and correct statement on the economic system and working class as a whole.
I do find it funny that people still buy albums too. Anything on BET and MTV sucks.
In the context of when it was said, it was appropriate. [/b]
Instead of the short-sightedness by playing the race card he could have pointed out that this is nothing new and inherent in our economic system, and fueled more than just the African-American communities up. I'm sure it hasn't been only black people who have and continue to suffer in the aftermath of Katrina and other policies ignored by the government. It would have been a better and more accurate statement.
I do, however, acknowledge the large demography of African Americans in the region and understand why he said what he did.
I don't think he's a bad guy, but he's had the opportunity more than once to speak out on issues and hasn't used his platform as a conscious device as often as he could.
I did enjoy the song he produced with Dilated Peoples, This Way. Other than that I don't recall much good songs, though I don't think of him as a bad artist. Again, he hasn't used his platform to his full potential. That's all.
bolshevik butcher
15th August 2007, 17:00
What's being missed is that Kanye West is not some sort of class conscious socialist. I don't like 50 cent at all and to be honest think that Kanye West is pretty bland and middle of the road, come on he did the concert for princess Diana. However I think that saying that was great, if only for the hysterical reaction of everyonelse on tv at the time. It was far braver and close to the truth than anyonelse in the public light was prepaired to be about catrina at the time.
hajduk
15th August 2007, 18:33
1) KANYE WEST IS NOT LIKE PINK FLOYD
2) IT IS NOT BAD TO MAKE MUSIC,IT IS BAD TO SEND BAD MESSAGE WITH A MUSIC
3) PUBLIC ENEMY DO THE SAME THING IN HIP HOP LIKE PINK FLOYD DO IN ROCK
4) CHOOSING THE 9/11 FOR PUBLICATE ALBUM IS BAD THING,THAT IS MEMORIAL DAY FOR AMERICANS WHO LOST SOMEONE IN WTC AND IT IS NOT APROPRIATE TO DO WHAT FUCKING FIFTY AND WEST DO
5) BOTH OF THEM WORK FOR CAPITALISTS
Pirate Utopian
15th August 2007, 18:46
About 4... life goes on mate, are people supposed to do nothing on september 11 because of what happend 6 years ago?
hajduk
15th August 2007, 19:01
Originally posted by Big
[email protected] 15, 2007 05:46 pm
About 4... life goes on mate, are people supposed to do nothing on september 11 because of what happend 6 years ago?
ask this question those who lost someone on 9/11 <_<
Political_Chucky
15th August 2007, 19:11
Kaynes production values are great. Just because he samples doesn't mean shit. You can look at a whole list of old school songs that do the same shit by ripping a beat and just spitting words right over it. I don't know how anyone can argue that he doesn't make great music. But as a rapper, he stinks.
And to what 50 cent said...I would rather have a artist who has some skill(Kanye), compared to 50 cent who glorifies "street life" and puts up this entire show just to sell some records.
hajduk
15th August 2007, 19:16
Originally posted by
[email protected] 15, 2007 06:11 pm
Kaynes production values are great. Just because he samples doesn't mean shit. You can look at a whole list of old school songs that do the same shit by ripping a beat and just spitting words right over it. I don't know how anyone can argue that he doesn't make great music. But as a rapper, he stinks.
And to what 50 cent said...I would rather have a artist who has some skill(Kanye), compared to 50 cent who glorifies "street life" and puts up this entire show just to sell some records.
yeah Chucky you say old school that is okay but what West do now is bad sorry....also i think the same for fucking fifty
marcocosm
15th August 2007, 19:28
Originally posted by Big
[email protected] 15, 2007 01:08 pm
I liked Kanye's first album, the shit he makes now sucks.
yeah...kanye needs to have another car accident to get inspiration...rap sux now days...its tha same lame shit...clubs, parties, rims, and *****es
Rollo
15th August 2007, 19:31
I was going to make fun of the vote or die thing, then I realised it was P.Diddy and was going to just not post here at all, but here's my question. What the hell is the difference between Puff daddy and kanye west?
Political_Chucky
15th August 2007, 19:51
Originally posted by
[email protected] 15, 2007 10:31 am
I was going to make fun of the vote or die thing, then I realised it was P.Diddy and was going to just not post here at all, but here's my question. What the hell is the difference between Puff daddy and kanye west?
Pretty much nothing besides the point that "Puff daddy" or whatever the fuck his name, would not be here if it wasn't for B.I.G.
yeah Chucky you say old school that is okay but what West do now is bad sorry....also i think the same for fucking fifty
And whats the difference? I don't really like everything he puts out, but at least its better then that southern crap with a two tone beat and the same line over and over.
Saint Street Revolution
17th August 2007, 15:33
Kanye West...I like his music. He's a damn bit nicer than 50 Cent.
I won't be buying any albums, though. Ever since I got Limewire like 2 years ago I haven't bought a CD that costs more than 9 bucks.
Kanye's a bit of a pretty boy, a diva. But he's a pretty good musician, regardless.
The last album I bought was a demo for $2 by this local band The Rilladiks.
RevSouth
17th August 2007, 18:19
Originally posted by midnight
[email protected] 14, 2007 12:54 am
Oh and before I forget, 50 Cent wasn't really shot nine tims...According to the media outlets that reported on the shooting at the time as well as the police report on the crime, he was only shot three times. He was shot at nine times. His whole career is a lie! :lol:
I am going to hold a clinic soon, teaching rappers how to shoot accurately, so that when they want to kill each other they actually can.
hajduk
18th August 2007, 14:04
Originally posted by Political_Chucky+August 15, 2007 06:51 pm--> (Political_Chucky @ August 15, 2007 06:51 pm)
[email protected] 15, 2007 10:31 am
I was going to make fun of the vote or die thing, then I realised it was P.Diddy and was going to just not post here at all, but here's my question. What the hell is the difference between Puff daddy and kanye west?
Pretty much nothing besides the point that "Puff daddy" or whatever the fuck his name, would not be here if it wasn't for B.I.G.
yeah Chucky you say old school that is okay but what West do now is bad sorry....also i think the same for fucking fifty
And whats the difference? I don't really like everything he puts out, but at least its better then that southern crap with a two tone beat and the same line over and over. [/b]
yeah Chycky but we speak on this topic about 9/11 and the fact that those suckers will published own albums on that day maaaaaaaaaaan :blink: why PUBLIC ENEMY isnt pronounce new album HARDER THAN YOU THINK on 9/11?
Intifada
7th September 2007, 20:01
Originally posted by
[email protected] 15, 2007 06:28 pm
rap sux now days...its tha same lame shit...clubs, parties, rims, and *****es
You just need to look in the right places.
Blu & Exile's "Below The Heavens", Pharoahe Monch's "Desire", Common's "Finding Forever" and Black Milk's "Popular Demand" are some Hip Hop albums I can think of off the top of my head that were realised this year. All are dope.
Comrade J
12th September 2007, 20:55
Some good news... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6990599.stm) Kanye is currently outselling 50 Cent. We may just get rid of the **** yet! :D
blackstone
12th September 2007, 21:33
That article didnt' give any numbers at all.
Comrade J
12th September 2007, 21:42
Originally posted by
[email protected] 12, 2007 08:33 pm
That article didnt' give any numbers at all.
Unless you count '700,000' - which is considered by many to be a number.
blackstone
12th September 2007, 22:33
Thats a number, i'm looking for numbers, with an s. How much is 50 projected to sell by end of the week?
700,000 isn't even what he has sold so far, it's what is expected by end of the week.
midnight marauder
12th September 2007, 22:48
I couldn't give a fuck less about this, but for those who might, 50 backed out FYI
manic expression
13th September 2007, 00:39
Kanye West refuses to make original music. He samples EVERY ONE OF HIS SONGS from superior artists. Sorry, but sampling Curtis Mayfield and capitalizing on the fact that ignorant suburbian teenagers don't know who Curtis Mayfield is doesn't count as good music.
Not that 50 Cent isn't worse....
Chicom
13th September 2007, 01:38
Hip hop = corporations
Faux Real
13th September 2007, 01:44
Originally posted by
[email protected] 12, 2007 05:38 pm
Hip hop = corporations
Faulty equation... care to elaborate?
All music = corporations?
I guess dancing styles = corporations as well by that logic. :lol:
Vanguard1917
13th September 2007, 06:41
Kanye West really irritates me. I hope 50 Cent outsells him.
G-g-g-geee YOOONIT
midnight marauder
13th September 2007, 06:44
in other news, Ye's new album is as boring as his personality~
disappointing! :angry: :angry:
but what was I expecting? another college dropout?
i guess that makes it my fault.
blackstone
13th September 2007, 13:40
Originally posted by manic
[email protected] 12, 2007 11:39 pm
Kanye West refuses to make original music. He samples EVERY ONE OF HIS SONGS from superior artists. Sorry, but sampling Curtis Mayfield and capitalizing on the fact that ignorant suburbian teenagers don't know who Curtis Mayfield is doesn't count as good music.
Not that 50 Cent isn't worse....
Thank You. Kanye samples already great music! If kanye had an album full of wack beats, noone would care about dude!
More Fire for the People
14th September 2007, 02:52
Originally posted by midnight
[email protected] 12, 2007 11:44 pm
in other news, Ye's new album is as boring as his personality~
disappointing! :angry: :angry:
but what was I expecting? another college dropout?
i guess that makes it my fault.
I like what've heard so far but I've never heard the album end-to-end. I wouldn't call it boring, I think he's actually starting to branch out. Before he was limiting his samples to older music but his new album comes out with Daft Punk, John Mayer, and all kinds of modern artists and it has blaring drums.
RedAnarchist
19th September 2007, 23:50
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6999493.stm
Organic Revolution
19th September 2007, 23:53
No. Kanye West's new album may be good for the moment but wont stand the test of time for hip-hop, like some of the greats, like Chicago's Vakill and other prolific artists.
Pawn Power
20th September 2007, 06:11
his voice is kinda pestiferous.
midnight marauder
20th September 2007, 06:44
I like what've heard so far but I've never heard the album end-to-end. I wouldn't call it boring, I think he's actually starting to branch out. Before he was limiting his samples to older music but his new album comes out with Daft Punk, John Mayer, and all kinds of modern artists and it has blaring drums.
I dunno. I see where you're coming from, but I thought the beats were, while good, a bit monotonous....nothing really stood out to me.
His lyrics have fell off like a motherfucker too. I consider the college dropout to be one of the few really great popular hip hop albums of the new millennium, and late registration had it's moments, but this one I just could not feel.
On the real...."like a fresh malcolm x/by any jeans necessary//" or however that line went had me shoveling my head into my palms. WTF! I could have done without the constant shopping references.
atlanticche
25th September 2007, 23:21
yeah ive seen this before, and am confused, cause a week after this gettin into the news they were good friends and recording together, and since then yet again 50 cent has been dissing him i mean what the hell,
and now that kanye is doin much better in the charts 50 cent is goin on tour
and i dont think buying kanye's album just to get rid of 50 is a good reason, i like both of em, and if i had money i would buy both but at the moment ive just got a copy of kanye's from a mate
Comrade_Scott
27th September 2007, 00:38
:wub: mmm rims lol yea rap sucks and i aint buying any of their cd's "they got money" but not mine haha fuck off both of them kanye's first cd was the best sucks now and same for 50. rap needs a new life man it needs to be revived cause it is shit now
IronLion
27th September 2007, 06:04
Both artists are signed to the same corporate label, Universal. A Kanye purchase or a 50 purchase makes no difference to the fat cats at the tables, except for the fact that their pockets get fatter. In order to change the industry, we must boycott it. I haven't purchased a CD in months.
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