1984 - can it be true

[scott thesocialist]

so has anyone read 1984 don't you think that the never ending war is what theus are doing there is no war to fight against communism so now they say the war on terroism could last 50years or longer, war is needed to provide big companies(the ones that rule the world) with a way of making money and to control the puplic with propanganda about the threat here the threat there to create panic and false hatred of the 'enemy'

[Dirty Commie]

Remember:

War is Peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength

Yeah, never ending war is what the cappies are doing to make more money for the arms industry to make up for the fall of the Soviet Union.

[hazard]

it IS true

actually, orwell's comments were about the current state of society which still apply to today. every chanc the fascists get they attempt to introduce the "televiewer" technology. apparently, all dangerous, revolutionary individuals are bugged around the clock. it is only a matter of time before all people are similarly bugged.

anybody hear about the FBI tech that records all telephone calls that mention certain words, all instances of websites, chatrooms, and mesage boards that make use of their target words? I think its called "carnivore" or something like that. anyway, its supposed to route out terrorists when they mention stuff like BOMB. how difficult would it be to witch the keyword eacrh to "communist"? that is unless they havent already.

[Dirty Commie]

The carnivore program has list of like a thousand words including'Hillary Clinton' revolution, 'Jihad', 'Bomb' and others that nearly EVRYONE uses in each e-mail.

I went to the carnivore site and copied the words in an e-mail I sent to the white house.

I think I'm on a list now.

[hazard]

I work under the assumption that I AM already on such a list

I want the pigs to try and take me

TRY IT!

YOU GOT NOTHIN! NOTHING!

[scott thesocialist]

the secret is not to say or do anything that they can use against you in a court of law be careful what you say and who to, the walls have eyes and the computers can talk!

[Iepilei]

1984 is a childs look on the realisation of the authority of capitalism. it's overread and overused.

when it comes to describing the world we live in today, as far as class antagonisms go, I identify much more with the look taken in Brave New World, by Huxley. Through pleasure and enjoyment, the upper class has destroyed the ambeition of the lower classes.

[Conghaileach]

I haven't read it, but I've been told that Jack London's "The Iron Heel" (written in 1906) is the best book for the image of capitalism as is. Apparently the first 30 pages or so are pure socialist polemic.

[Pete]

I can't see how anyone can view 1984 as a picture of communism. The Party admits to be oppurtunist 'Why do we rule winston? [...] No, because we want power. Only power.' or something like that. The party makes no mistake distancing itself from communism. It is a guard against oppurtunists.

[Pete]

#Moderation Mode

1984 is a book...

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