Question

[Boor]

What do you call beliveing muslim communist?
Can there be one?

[redstar2000]

No, Boor, there is no such thing as a communist (Marxist, atheist) who also "submits to Allah" (muslim).

Why anyone would even want to try to be such a thing utterly escapes me; rather like transplanting wings onto a lobster.

:cool:

[YKTMX]

I wouldn't know what you would call such a person. But to suggest that you can't believe in and understand Marxism but still have faith is nonsense.

[Umoja]

Marxism has "religion", it's called Atheism. What you might call a Muslim Socialist, would be the word Qadafi uses, but it escapes me.

[Blibblob]

What is wrong with a beleif structure? A basic one you keep to yourself is fine, but a religion is different. An organized relgion removes freedoms. Muslims are no more radical than Christians or Jews, or even Budhists. It is the organized relgion that changes them. Your post shows a lack of understanding of that culture, that you would question the possibility. There are christian communists, jews tend to be very attracted to it, taoists helped create the principle. Most tend to be atheist or agnostic for some reason, I myself am a nihilist. Without faith, you are an empty shell. People here have faith that communism is possible. Oh, and Atheism can hardly be called a religion, why would you want it to be anyways? Only benefit is that the "church" of it wouldn't have to pay taxes.

[ComradeJunichi]

If you had any understanding of Marxism then you'd understand that religion does not go along with the basic components of Marxism.

I'm not saying you can't be a Muslim Communist, but you can't be a Muslim Marxist.

[Invader Zim]

That is if you assume tghat he wants to be a marxist, as far as i see it if you can be a christian socialist why cant you be a muslim socialist.

Your opinion of how Marxism or socialism should work is not difinatve or even relavant to another persons idiologys, unless you are the reincarnation of Marx you cannot tell any one that they are wrong.

[peaccenicked]

It is possible to want to share the world with everyone else and still believe in god. However, the majority of believers have traditionaly been conservative of the established order. If a christian or a muslim wants to vote socialist. I would welcome the vote.
The more fudamentalist religious types tend to be vehemently anti socialist.

[Pete]

I agree with Peacce.

Religion is a social structure, a rement of feudalism. It has no place in the post-modern world that communism would represent. By believing in something superior to the individual you thereby create the need to have someone control you. It is the selffulling prophecy. If you see yourself as one to submit you will always submit.

[GCusack]

Marx himself was a lutherin! He had converted to the teaching of Martin Luthur from Judaism. On the whole tho, jews and muslims tend to lean more to the cappatalist side.

[ComradeJunichi]

Quote: from AK47 on 2:44 pm on May 16, 2003
That is if you assume tghat he wants to be a marxist, as far as i see it if you can be a christian socialist why cant you be a muslim socialist.

Your opinion of how Marxism or socialism should work is not difinatve or even relavant to another persons idiologys, unless you are the reincarnation of Marx you cannot tell any one that they are wrong.


Who are you referring to?

Components of Marxism do not go hand in hand with dogma, or theology. For example, Dialectical Materialism does not go hand in hand with God.