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Marko
1st August 2007, 03:58
In their greed the capitalist governments in the West have made a mistake: They have abandoned their traditional xenophobia and welcomed millions of Third World immigrants.

Their obvious goals are to drive down wages and create an army of unemployed people to make working people live in a state of uncertainty as they can be easily replaced. Immigration has had negative short-term effects to workers in industrial countries and that is why some of them want restrictions. However, they are wrong.

Immigration has benefited the capitalists in the short term, true. It has allowed them to pay less to the workers and weaken trade unions in two ways:
1) Dirt-poor unemployed people are now available to replace striking workers and 2) Chauvinist/racist sentiments have begun to divide the working class and it is unable to cooperate.

In the long run however immigration will destroy the capitalist societies in the First World. Immigrants live in relative poverty and are subjected to discrimination. They are unhappy and tend to vote for leftist parties. The capitalists will not succeed in "integrating" them. The liberal capitalists have an incorrect, romanticised view of immigrants thinking that they will become bourgeois high-achievers. However, a Nigerian immigrant carpenter more likely to continue to be a carpenter in the West and than to found a revolutionary IT company. He is not going to start adoring capitalism.

The naturalized immigrants act as a powerful leftist voting block which has already much influence in some European countries. The immigrant population is increasing rapidly because of high immigration and liberal immigration policies. Thus, I predict that right-wing parties will be unable to win elections in Europe in the future.

The leftist parties start becoming more leftist and the amount of immigration will be increased further which creates a circle which will ultimately lead to a Communist Europe. Nationalization and welfare programs will progress and taxes will be raised to a level that capitalists find intolerable so we can expect Fascist coup attempts. They will be crushed by an united front of immigrant and native workers and as a result of that conflict socialist states will be established.

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Do you agree with my view of the future?

DeadDisco
3rd August 2007, 20:11
Well, some of the sentiment is correct, but I think that you are forgetting some major things. (However, I am looking at this from a rather *merican perspective, although I do live in California, where at least 50% of the population is projected to be Spanish-speaking within a few years.)

First, that many immigrants don't realize that capitalism is what screwed them over in the first place, and yet they move to "First world" countries to get rich in a capitalist economy. American dream, and etc.

Now, second, you are forgetting that immigrants are reviled by both the right-wing media and much of the non-immigrant population (curiously the ones who subscribe to the right-wing media, lol.) Somewhat ironically, much of the people doing the reviling are the working class, who are losing jobs and blaming it on the immigrants instead of the system that screwed them over.

However, you are correct that immigrants tend to be more left-ish, although many of them are not completely ready to abandon capitalism.

hajduk
4th August 2007, 16:23
On some point you have right Marko, but when capitalists feal that political atmosphere is not god for them, they just remove plants in a Third world.Busines must go one <_<