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R_P_A_S
31st July 2007, 18:59
Cuba farms hint at future reform
By Michael Voss
BBC News, Havana


It was 31 July last year that a sick Fidel Castro issued a proclamation naming his younger brother Raul as acting head of state.
It proved to be a calm, smooth transition, with the Communist Party remaining firmly in control. But so far, stability has not led to any improvement to people's daily lives.

Only now, one year on, are there signs that caretaker President Raul Castro may be preparing the country for a dose of Chinese-style economic reforms.

So far, one of the very few legal forms of private enterprise allowed on this Caribbean island is the farmers' market.

One of the best and busiest is the 19th Street market in the Vedado district of the capital, Havana.


State quota

Like food markets the world over, it vibrates to the sound of stall-holders shouting out their sales pitches, enticing customers to buy their fruit and vegetables.


The produce comes from nearby co-operative farms and smallholdings. Once they have met their state quota they are free to sell everything else they grow in the market.

It is only in the past 15 years that such capitalist-style activities have been allowed here - a limited concession forced by the collapse of the country's former benefactor, the Soviet Union.

While the state shops are half empty, there is no shortage of food in the farmers' market. But it is expensive.


The average wage in Cuba is around 100 pesos a week. I bought two mangos, four green peppers and a pound of cucumbers and it cost me 60 pesos - roughly three days wages. Although, with access to hard currency it is less than $3.

'Making sacrifices'

I asked some of the customers in the market how they could afford to shop there.



Will Fidel Castro allow the country to move away from his cherished ideal of egalitarianism, where every man must be equal even if all are poor?

"My husband makes handicrafts which he sells to tourists so I can afford to shop here," one woman told me.

But others are less fortunate. "It's about making sacrifices", another woman said.

Low wages, food shortages and poor public transport are the complaints that dominate conversations here much more than questions of political freedom.

In a televised speech last week, before a crowd of one 100,000 people, Raul Castro acknowledged that all was not well.

"To have more, we have to begin producing more... To reach these goals, the needed structural and conceptual changes will have to be introduced," he told the crowd.

Winds of change

He also said that the country may have to turn once again to foreign investment.


Many Cubans and Western observers believe this to be a signal that Chinese-style reforms are finally on the way - an opening up of the economy while maintaining political control.


His hand may not be on the tiller, but his presence remains immense
And it is agriculture which could be the first to feel the winds of change.

Some farmers already own their land.

Men like Xavier Perez, who employs four people on his two-hectare smallholding just east of the capital.

He grows bananas, mangos and guavas and once he has met his state quota, the rest goes to the market in Havana.

About 60% of farms are still run by the state. But according to government statistics published online, it is the co-operative and small private farms which provide almost 90% of all the food grown here.

Xavier Perez explained: "The private producer works harder and looks after his crops. If you are employed by the state it's just a job, nobody cares."


Revolutionary dedication

But will Fidel Castro allow the country to move away from his cherished ideal of egalitarianism, where every man must be equal even if all are poor?

The 80-year-old "commander-in-chief", as Fidel is still referred to here, continues to recuperate following a series of stomach operations.

Recent pictures show that he has put on weight and appears to be getting stronger.

In recent months Fidel Castro has increasingly made his presence felt through regular newspaper editorials, called Reflections by the Commander in Chief. Each are read out in full on the nightly news.

Last month he suggested that all that was really needed was more revolutionary dedication.

"The standard of living can be improved by raising knowledge, self-esteem and dignity of the people. It will be enough to reduce waste and the economy will grow."

For the moment Fidel Castro's role appears to be that of an elder statesman.

His hand may not be on the tiller, but his presence remains immense. Many believe that there can be no major changes in Cuba without his approval. Much less against his wishes.

R_P_A_S
31st July 2007, 19:08
a few things. after reading this report one has to wonder who the fuck is behind them. you know? who is this journalist. something about his style is a lil' bias. at least to me.


Many Cubans and Western observers believe this to be a signal that Chinese-style reforms are finally on the way - an opening up of the economy while maintaining political control.

are you kidding me? "many cubans" which cubans and how come he didn't interview any? Chinese reforms? oh great. YOU WISH!


Will Fidel Castro allow the country to move away from his cherished ideal of egalitarianism, where every man must be equal even if all are poor?

"My husband makes handicrafts which he sells to tourists so I can afford to shop here," one woman told me.

But others are less fortunate. "It's about making sacrifices", another woman said.


HA-HA-HA! yes im sure Castro wants everyone to be poor, but happy!.. and lets privatize more things in Cuba. so that people with more money can buy food and other goods and those who are poorer can starve. yes! thats the answer! :rolleyes:


Men like Xavier Perez, who employs four people on his two-hectare smallholding just east of the capital.

He grows bananas, mangos and guavas and once he has met his state quota, the rest goes to the market in Havana.

About 60% of farms are still run by the state. But according to government statistics published online, it is the co-operative and small private farms which provide almost 90% of all the food grown here.

Xavier Perez explained: "The private producer works harder and looks after his crops. If you are employed by the state it's just a job, nobody cares."

Yes people! a Petty-Bourgoisie in Cuba are possible! and LOOK! LOOK! he cares about his job. because unlike the other cuban farms run by the state, forced to meet a quota. HE OWNS HIS FARM! and even empoyees people! wow! He cares! I guess this goes to show that everyone should strive to be a boss, because you will care about your job more and be proud of your product! as oppossed just being "a job" and "not care" :rolleyes:


oh fuck off! who is this asshole?

R_P_A_S
1st August 2007, 05:09
an other article about Cuba by the same BBC journalist.. Michael Voss
I don't like his style i think its very biased. also notice some of the words he chooses to use. hmm..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6925085.stm
Raul Castro (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6925085.stm)

bootleg42
1st August 2007, 06:32
Yeah, most western articles I've read state how they believe Cuba will turn to "open reforms" but they said the same shit when the Soviet Union fell and well, Cuba continued.

Although food shortages are a ligit complaint heard around Cuba alot, I doubt it turns the entire island to chinese like reforms. Lets hope this is fixed quickly before some people start falling for the "Freedom" crap the west spits out of it's mouth.

Nothing Human Is Alien
1st August 2007, 06:37
They've been saying the same things about Cuba for decades.

Faux Real
1st August 2007, 06:52
If there really were food shortages, wouldn't there be mass deaths by cause of starvation? Or maybe the author expects every country to consume 25% of the worlds food production? :rolleyes:

I doubt Chinese reforms are on the way.

ComradeR
1st August 2007, 07:13
Originally posted by Compañ[email protected] 01, 2007 05:37 am
They've been saying the same things about Cuba for decades.
Yeah we've been hearing about the impending "economic reforms" and "democratic revolution" in Cuba since 91. I wouldn't buy too much into this it's just more rhetoric and wishful thinking of the fucking imperialist pigs.

bootleg42
1st August 2007, 07:26
Originally posted by [email protected] 01, 2007 05:52 am
If there really were food shortages, wouldn't there be mass deaths by cause of starvation? Or maybe the author expects every country to consume 25% of the worlds food production? :rolleyes:

I doubt Chinese reforms are on the way.

Well not to give the author any credit, when I was in Bolivia last winter (summer there) I went to see some of those posts of Cuban doctors giving free treatment to the poor. I spoke with those doctors and almost all of them loved the food avalability in Bolivia and they all told me "we don't have this much food in Cuba".

Now don't start thinking that capitalism in Bolivia created excellent food avaliability. It's just an offspring of old inca culture which stated that everyone has to eat. The people in Bolivia (indigenous, mestizo (me), african descenants, and whites) have taken to that part of the culture. The food avaliability there is not a result of any capitalism, I just wanted to make that point.

Now to those Cuban doctors, a handful of them did try to go to the Bolivian government and ask for assylum, but that was only a few of them. All the doctors I spoke too (and there were quite a few) told me they love cuban socialism, and that Cuba is no where near what other media outlets have made it seem BUT they did say the only problem is that at times, there can be food shortages.

My point is that the Cuban government must do something about that. It's is not BAD but it is an issue and it must be fixed. I only hope it is not fixed with a free market. This is why it's an important issue.

I also doubt chinesse like reforms are on the way.

And rev0lt, I love the 25% food consumtion referance, made me laugh. You have no idea what these United Statians eat.

Raúl Duke
1st August 2007, 13:20
Actually, while the journalist could be biased, I heard worst and more critical articles about Cuba from the Miami herald. This guy's artice seems to cut some slack to Cuba.

But the existence of petit-bourgoeise land owners and merchants? WTF
Cuba should do more to protects its egalitarianism and should move its economy to a more socialist stance (as possible/sustainable) yet while also improving living standards as much as possible (so that they can all be equal yet not so poor)

bloody_capitalist_sham
1st August 2007, 13:35
About 60% of farms are still run by the state. But according to government statistics published online, it is the co-operative and small private farms which provide almost 90% of all the food grown here.


This comment is probably a little deceptive. Maybe the state farms produce sugar cane for export and the co-op's focus much more on food production and not on sugar cane for export?

Comrade Castro
1st August 2007, 14:09
Raul will not bring "reforms", he was the one converted Fidel from national-liberationist to communist. After the whole "I am not a communist" phase. Raul has always just as communist, or maybe a bit more, than Fidel. He'd be the last person to bring in capitalism.