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Iron
30th July 2007, 03:57
I know imperialism i when you forcefully take over a nation to gain natural resources and new markets.

But Colonialism is the same thing no? the only difference I can think of is the imperialism the gained landed is ruled by a central government. While in a colony the land is rule by a local government under the central one. other than this are their any other differences?

Janus
30th July 2007, 04:14
I know imperialism i when you forcefully take over a nation to gain natural resources and new markets.
Imperialism doesn't always require physical/military control of a region.


the only difference I can think of is the imperialism the gained landed is ruled by a central government. While in a colony the land is rule by a local government under the central one.
There really isn't much of a difference there since state structures are relatively similar. The territory is almost always governed by a representative(s) of the "mother country".


other than this are their any other differences?
The main differentiation is that imperialism is much broader than colonialism in that it's not limited to direct control over an area but also encompasses political/economic influence as well.

Marko
30th July 2007, 05:13
The Zulu Empire was imperialist. The European nations who colonized African nations were colonialist.

Iron
30th July 2007, 20:29
Originally posted by [email protected] 30, 2007 04:13 am
The Zulu Empire was imperialist. The European nations who colonized African nations were colonialist.
I don't see a differance.

Dimentio
30th July 2007, 21:20
Colonialism means, to my experience, to move a part of the imperial ethnos to the conquered territories to ease class tensions and increase the territory (USA, South Africa, Botswana, New Zealand, Australia). To be a colonialsing nation, it needs to be imperialist.

It could also be seen as economic colonialism, when the productive means of an imperial power is pressing away or attempting to press away the indigenous productive means (like when the Mongols expanded their empire to increase the pastures).

Imperialism does not always necessite colonialism, but colonialism almost always necessite imperialism (one of the few exceptions I know of are the Polynesian colonisation of the South Pacific in the 11th century).

Demogorgon
30th July 2007, 21:59
Colonialism is a type of imperialism, but it isn't the only type. For example the invasion of IRaq was imperialist but it probably wasn't colonial as they do not intend to keep Iraq administratively under the control of Britain or America forever, nor do they intend to call it their territory. They intend to make it a Satallite state, but not a colony.

On the other hand Israel's occupation of the West Bank is colonial as they do intend to keep it under their control and do claim it to be their territory.

Dimentio
30th July 2007, 22:06
I do not really see it as colonialism proper when the invader does'nt attempt to replace the local rulers with themselves directly, or, in the worst case, the entire people.

TC
30th July 2007, 22:35
In Marxian economic theory, Imperialism is a distinct type of advanced/late capitalism whereas Colonialism is a general tactic used by feudal, mechantalist, and early and late capitalist states.

Colonialism is seizing of territory for the extraction of raw resources, materials, opening up of markets for the export of goods, and so on. It is practiced in multiple economic forums including feudalism, early capitalism, imperialism and fascism.

Imperialism is capitalism in its post-competitive monopoly stage of finance capitalism where instead of exporting goods to overseas markets while importing raw materials, it actually exports capital itself investing in overseas infrastructure so as to make use of the native labour force.