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rebel_lord
19th July 2007, 18:20
http://www.correntewire.com/us_ambassador_...ll_be_postponed (http://www.correntewire.com/us_ambassador_concern_that_united_states_2008_elec tions_will_be_postponed) <---there won&#39;t be elections in 2008

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Rosa Lichtenstein
19th July 2007, 19:46
I don not think this is either likely, or believable.

The quote at this link does not even suggest it either&#33;

rebel_lord
19th July 2007, 19:50
Originally posted by Rosa [email protected] 19, 2007 06:46 pm
I don not think this is either likely, or believable.

The quote at this link does not even suggest it either&#33;


Hello my friend: here is the exact URL


http://www.correntewire.com/us_ambassador_...ll_be_postponed (http://www.correntewire.com/us_ambassador_concern_that_united_states_2008_elec tions_will_be_postponed)

Hey by the way i liked your page about why dialectic-materialism is wrong, and why we cannot be sectarists. Yeah there are a lot of corrupted, egocentric sectarian leftists out there who destroy the good reputation of what socialism should be

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rebel_lord
19th July 2007, 19:52
Originally posted by Rosa [email protected] 19, 2007 06:46 pm
I don not think this is either likely, or believable.

The quote at this link does not even suggest it either&#33;


US Ambassador: "Concern that United States 2008 elections will be postponed"
Submitted by lambert on Wed, 2007-07-18 11:55.

Republicans vs. the Constitution

So&#33; The DFH types like us aren’t the only ones to think this way. Former US Ambassador Dan Simpson writes for the Toledo Blade:

I thought that by now the White House would have decided that the strains of the job on his health were too much for Mr. Cheney to continue as vice president, that he would then have stepped down for valid health reasons, and the Republicans would have plugged into the position a viable 2008 presidential candidate.

I can think of several reasons why they didn’t do that (I will give them credit for enough intelligence to at least realize they had a problem). First, Mr. Bush felt he couldn’t live without Mr. Cheney around. Second - and I suspect this is probably the truth of the matter - Mr. Cheney didn’t want to step down and Mr. Bush decided in the end that he didn’t care what happened to the Republican Party after he was out of the White House.

There is also the late-at-night, eerie concern that Mr. Bush has in his head some sort of scenario where, for reasons of national security - real or drummed up - the 2008 elections will have to be postponed and he will get to stay on.

My suspicions have at their base the feeling I have that, given their operating style now, this bunch will not leave the White House easily in 2009.

Nice to see this mainstreamed at last.

Because when the going gets tough, the tough get foily.

Because, really, when to monarchs ever surrender power?

[update: yellow paint explosion cleaned up; janitor reprimanded. No zucchinis were harmed in the conduct of this operation. —xan]

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Rosa Lichtenstein
19th July 2007, 19:56
Hi, but as I said, that quotation at that link does not suggest this. Here it is:


I thought that by now the White House would have decided that the strains of the job on his health were too much for Mr. Cheney to continue as vice president, that he would then have stepped down for valid health reasons, and the Republicans would have plugged into the position a viable 2008 presidential candidate.

I can think of several reasons why they didn’t do that (I will give them credit for enough intelligence to at least realize they had a problem). First, Mr. Bush felt he couldn’t live without Mr. Cheney around. Second - and I suspect this is probably the truth of the matter - Mr. Cheney didn’t want to step down and Mr. Bush decided in the end that he didn’t care what happened to the Republican Party after he was out of the White House.

There is also the late-at-night, eerie concern that Mr. Bush has in his head some sort of scenario where, for reasons of national security - real or drummed up - the 2008 elections will have to be postponed and he will get to stay on.

My suspicions have at their base the feeling I have that, given their operating style now, this bunch will not leave the White House easily in 2009.

That does not mean there will be no election, or that it will be postponed, since ex-Presidents do not leave office until the January following the election of the new President (in this case January 2009).

And all it says is that the present lot will not leave easily -- that means, they will be reluctant to go.

The USA would have to be in profound crisis for them to do something so reckless.

And thankyou for your comments about my site&#33;&#33; :)

rebel_lord
19th July 2007, 20:13
Originally posted by Rosa [email protected] 19, 2007 06:56 pm
Hi, but as I said, that quotation at that link does not suggest this. Here it is:


I thought that by now the White House would have decided that the strains of the job on his health were too much for Mr. Cheney to continue as vice president, that he would then have stepped down for valid health reasons, and the Republicans would have plugged into the position a viable 2008 presidential candidate.

I can think of several reasons why they didn’t do that (I will give them credit for enough intelligence to at least realize they had a problem). First, Mr. Bush felt he couldn’t live without Mr. Cheney around. Second - and I suspect this is probably the truth of the matter - Mr. Cheney didn’t want to step down and Mr. Bush decided in the end that he didn’t care what happened to the Republican Party after he was out of the White House.

There is also the late-at-night, eerie concern that Mr. Bush has in his head some sort of scenario where, for reasons of national security - real or drummed up - the 2008 elections will have to be postponed and he will get to stay on.

My suspicions have at their base the feeling I have that, given their operating style now, this bunch will not leave the White House easily in 2009.

That does not mean there will be no election, or that it will be postponed, since ex-Presidents do not leave office until the January following the election of the new President (in this case January 2009).

And all it says is that the present lot will not leave easily -- that means, they will be reluctant to go.

The USA would have to be in profound crisis for them to do something so reckless.

And thankyou for your comments about my site&#33;&#33; :)

Thanx again, your website is real big, it&#39;s like a philosophy library at home. Do you have a lot of people helping you to do that awesome site? or did you write it by yourself? You know i don&#39;t have a lot of time to read books or sites, but i will do my best to print some pages of your site and read them at night.

Take care, have a nice day :-)

rebel_lord

Rosa Lichtenstein
19th July 2007, 20:19
It&#39;s 99% my own work.

I have been writing it now for 10 years, but it has only appeared on the web in the last 18 months or so.

Loads more to come.

I am not even half way yet&#33;

The best thing to read (unless you are very confident at philosophy) is the introductory Essay -- link below in my signature.