Nazi Dali

[Katyusha]

This is not the firs time i hear that salvador dali is fascinated with nazi ideas ! But finaly i found this image ..

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/artists/salvador-dali/dali-hitler.jpg

here ..
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/artists/salvador-dali/



:wacko:

[Iron]

Swastikas are not always associated with Nazism

[Sugar Hill Kevis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23, 2007 03:29 am
Swastikas are not always associated with Nazism
emblazened on a white circle on a red armband they are...

And yeah, Dali was a well renowned fascist

[EwokUtopia]

And rotten.com is a fucked up site.

And I mean fucked right up

[bezdomni]

Originally posted by Kevis+July 23, 2007 10:51 am--> (Kevis @ July 23, 2007 10:51 am)
[email protected] 23, 2007 03:29 am
Swastikas are not always associated with Nazism
emblazened on a white circle on a red armband they are...

And yeah, Dali was a well renowned fascist [/b]
Not really. He was just fucking crazy, especially later on in his life.

His "support" for Franco was one of his many eccentricities.

That doesn't defend it at all, but he I wouldn't call him a fascist in the proper sense just because he wasn't really into politics that much.

I believe he (at some point) considered himself an "anarcho-monarchist".

Like I said...just a loon. Great artist, nutty politics.

[RNK]

Oh, he didn't support fascism that much? Well, that makes it all better then.

[Dr Mindbender]

:blink: Maybe he was just being ironic?

[The-Spark]

Well he did collaborate with Walt Disney, who was quite the racist prick, cool artwork, just racist as fuck.

[The-Spark]

that and when Franco came to power, he was one of the intellectuals that supported the new regime.

[bezdomni]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24, 2007 12:38 am
Oh, he didn't support fascism that much? Well, that makes it all better then.
That's not what I said.

He was crazy. He didn't actually support fascism because he didn't really support anything.

That doesn't mean his weird sort of quasi-apathy is a good thing, or even defensible...but I wouldn't actually call Dali a fascist.

[Mariam]

Didn't the same thing happen with Ezra Pound supporting fascism.

[Hiero]

From that picture what can you point out that shows Dali's support for Nazism?

[BreadBros]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25, 2007 05:28 am
Didn't the same thing happen with Ezra Pound supporting fascism.
Ezra Pound is often tied to fascism because of his interest in romanticism and other cultural movements. I think SP is right, Dali was mostly trying to shock or be absurd with his political proclamations and I don't think he actually gave much of a damn. Surrealism as a whole is generally considered a leftist art movement though. Then gain that image doesn't really say much. How do we know he isn't commenting on fascism, critiquing it or using it as a sort of psychological/dream substitute for something else.

[Yardstick]

Ever see his portrait of Picasso?

I wouldn't say Dali was apathetic to politics. Dali used to be 'friends' with Picasso untill he found out picasso supported the republic army.

[RHIZOMES]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23, 2007 08:49 pm
And rotten.com is a fucked up site.

And I mean fucked right up
I love it's library section though

http://www.rotten.com/library/

EDIT: http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/pnac/

[bcbm]

Dali was a fascist ****, period. Trying to excuse his open support of the murder of hundreds of thousands of people as "eccentric" is absolute bullshit. Quit apologizing for that piece of shit. Artists and leftists of his own generation had the sense to reject him and his shit reactionary politics, I don't see why its difficult to now.

An essay on the subject (http://www.counterpunch.org/navarro12062003.html)

[Idola Mentis]

Which smartass was it who said something like "Only poor people are mad; rich people are eccentric"?

[Alenichev]

I like Albert Speer's work, who was -the- nazi. Does one's political preference matter in art?

[Honggweilo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27, 2007 08:55 pm
I like Albert Speer's work, who was -the- nazi. Does one's political preference matter in art?
yes, the artist is the achitect of the soul. If its political load is set to influence, it right to have a preference.

[Tower of Bebel]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27, 2007 10:55 pm
I like Albert Speer's work, who was -the- nazi. Does one's political preference matter in art?
no, only if a (hidden) political message can be found in his/her art.