Commie Graffitti Tag?

[The-Spark]

Could we make a graffitti tag, that we could all use, through out our different areas, that is short and sweet, yet spikes people's curiosity about communism? A way to inform the people y'kno?
Like a tag that can be seen in different countries, a tag that has no borders, a communist tag.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

The hammer & sickle comes to mind.

[The-Spark]

hammer and sickle would be great, i think it would also spark the curiosity of people. maybe a slogan too?

[midnight marauder]

the purpose of a tag is to be original and unique, and to add your own style to it and turn a universal word into something that is truly fresh. not that this isn't a bad idea (i write political slogans and phrases all the time) but i don't think this would be the best way to spread your message...

there are some guerilla art movements that are along the same lines as you're talking about (massively used across different cities and contries to represent and idea), for example, shepard fairey's obey giant which is put up to protest consumerism and blind following and allows people to imitate it with their own style, or the space invaders project, etc.

if you're really interested in this i'd be happy to do whatever i could to help you out!

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Slogan

"They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?" - Fidel

Wepa.

[The-Spark]

Well, juice, this may be stupid but what i was thinking was, people seeing this same slogan, doing with communism, all over north america, all over europe etc. And if we do it enough, get more people to tag it, etc., it would reach news and people would gain curiosity and maybe look more into communism and see what a great idea it is, y'know?

[midnight marauder]

i understand exactly what you mean, and i didn't mean to come off as suggesting it was stupid in my initial post. it's a clever and novel idea, and i for one would love to support it.

here's some links about the couple similar concepts that i talked about earlier:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_invaders#Street_art

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre_the_giant_has_a_posse

you might also find this article useful, it has some good examples too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_jamming

edit: and CDL, that quote is god damn amazing :wub:

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

a star (not to alienate socialissts and anarchist) with a slogan..."Equality" or "Class war"

[The-Spark]

Originally posted by Y Chwildro Comiwnyddol [email protected] 16, 2007 06:56 pm
a star (not to alienate socialissts and anarchist) with a slogan..."Equality" or "Class war"
that sounds perfect, yet would everyone do it? a global tag to strike the population with curiosity? to reach media? a kind of revolution through graffitti, scare the capitalists. I think we should all agree on something.

[Faux Real]

Here's a tagger from San Francisco, quick and simple example to build upon...

http://a772.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/19/l_405e3f9044d117fbe209d6d8543bdfc3.jpg

[midnight marauder]

if you want to spark interest in something like that, you have to have a few characteristics:

you have to be artistic. anyone can scrawl a political message on a wall. anyone who's ever been in a public restroom knows this. if it isn't artistic, it won't attract attention.

you have to be clever. if you're not creative in your design, your statement, your technique, placement, etc., no one will notice or care either.

you have to be a bit mysterious: if your message is immidiately apparent it will spark little interest. that's part of the reason the OBEY campaign or banksy's art or whatever became so intriguing to people who otherwise wouldn't look twice at graffiti: the message is there, but it's something the viewer has to think about in order to connect.

and finally, you have to make the audience think. marketers often use the term "call to action" in their advertisement theory. there has to be some element that inspires and attracts people to actually do something about the subject. that can be finding out for themselves what it's about, replicating it, or whatever, but the important thing is that something happens.

[The-Spark]

okay, so im going to go to work with my sketch book and ill get back to you guys. thx for the help

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

if you want a creative and thought provocking one....

I saw one of a load of little fish being eaten by a big fish and then they turn on him and you see the little fish eating the big one...

I looked on the stencil database (outlines of a re.) and couldnt find it, does anyo have it?

[midnight marauder]

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/2418/imagesfq2.jpg

got this on a t-shirt!

there's quite a few different designs (and an example of it stenciled with 'ORGANIZE!' written across it) on google image search: http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=or...ch+Images&gbv=2 (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=organize+fish&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2)

some of them are probably big enough to print out and stencil without resizing, if you're careful.

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

thats the one, it ticks all the boxed you mentioned earlier :lol:

[Dr Mindbender]

i thought the che stencil was the obvious choice.

The hammer and sickle is synomonous with stalin and failed revolution so i think its a bad choice.

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 20, 2007 01:38 pm
i thought the che stencil was the obvious choice.

The hammer and sickle is synomonous with stalin and failed revolution so i think its a bad choice.
not all leftists like Che, and it doesnt really make one think

[Dr Mindbender]

Originally posted by Y Chwildro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg+July 20, 2007 02:48 pm--> (Y Chwildro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg @ July 20, 2007 02:48 pm)
Ulster [email protected] 20, 2007 01:38 pm
i thought the che stencil was the obvious choice.

The hammer and sickle is synomonous with stalin and failed revolution so i think its a bad choice.
not all leftists like Che, and it doesnt really make one think [/b]
the che image is one of the icons which stuck in my head as a child. It made me think 'whos he?'. People find the details out later themselves when they go to research it. Sometimes the subtle propaganda is the most effective.

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

Originally posted by Ulster [email protected] 20, 2007 02:54 pm
make one think
the che image is one of the icons which stuck in my head as a child. It made me think 'whos he?'. People find the details out later themselves when they go to research it. Sometimes the subtle propaganda is the most effective. [/quote]
Most know Che as just a pop art kind of thing and ignore it whereas the fish is less well known and more suited to "the sparks'" question

[Y Chwyldro Comiwnyddol Cymraeg]

shit the fish stencil is fiddly :(

Im half way thriugh and losing my patiens with it

[The-Spark]

Ill start one tonite to

[R_P_A_S]

Originally posted by Compañ[email protected] 15, 2007 05:17 am

Slogan

"They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?" - Fidel

Wepa.
ooh thats hard

[The-Spark]

Originally posted by R_P_A_S+July 26, 2007 06:05 am--> (R_P_A_S @ July 26, 2007 06:05 am)
Compañ[email protected] 15, 2007 05:17 am

Slogan

"They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?" - Fidel

Wepa.
ooh thats hard [/b]
yeah, im gonna go with the fish one personally. maybe with a word under it tho?

[Bilan]

Paris 68 has some rad slogans.

Eg. "Constraints imposed on pleasure incite the pleasure of living without constraints."
"Abolish Class Society"
etc.
Another one that's good is "All power to the Workers (or you could do 'people')"