Communism and Firearms - What would the law be?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

What would the rules in a Communist society be concerning firearms? I personally think that people should be allowed to own firearms, maybe if they joined a local militia for the purposes of defending communes.
Also what would the verdict be for swords, stun guns and other types of weapon?

[Dhul Fiqar]

Still, it's a slippery slope. I personally love guns, but I don't think people like me should be allowed to own them ;)

--- G.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Quote: from NoXion on 8:30 pm on April 10, 2003
What would the rules in a Communist society be concerning firearms? I personally think that people should be allowed to own firearms, maybe if they joined a local militia for the purposes of defending communes.
Also what would the verdict be for swords, stun guns and other types of weapon?


local militias? this will only work against the unification of the workers everywhere. Firearms should be restricted, they only perpetuate whatever violence mey be present.

[redstar2000]

It's been thought since the days of Marx and Engels that an armed working class was the only real guarantee that the revolution would not slip backwards into counter-revolution.

The practicalities are, of course, "up for grabs". We could issue everyone an AK47 and a supply of ammunition and give everyone a short course in how to handle the weapon (and keep it clean!).

We could limit personal weapons to handguns; only the most trusted workers would have the AK47s.

We could even use a kind of collective responsibility angle; if you wanted a weapon, you have to find five or ten people willing to sign a piece of paper saying that you're not a nutball. If you turn out to actually be a nutball, then whoever signed your papers can't sign papers for anyone else and they lose the right to own or have access to weapons themselves.

I'm not sure that stun-guns and other dangerous but non-lethal weaponry should be allowed at all. Because such weapons are thought to be "non-lethal", they are all the more likely to be used inappropriately. And, sometimes, they are lethal.

I see no point (:cheesy:) in a sword outside a museum.

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[Blasphemy]

i believe that personal firearms should be completely prohibited. weapons will be carried by the police in order to maintain the peace, but there is no reason for an individual to carry a lethal weapon for "self defence". non-lethal weapons like stun guns should be available to the public, but only under state supervision, probably in the way redstar suggested.

[chamo]

In a utopia there is absolutley no-need for firearms. If what we are trying to create is a utopian system with no war or hate then firearms would be a contributor to killing, accidental or on purpose.

However, I believe that firearms should eb destroyed but not yet. Not until we have reached utopia is there no need for them. The bourgeois have the power and for a revolution to suceed there may need to be an armed revolution. Then after, in the communist society, law forces would need to maintain order from more dangerous criminals and protect the people using firearms. I do not think anyone needs firearms except for a responsible law force, far from today's current one where the people have to be armed if they are to fight the law enforcement. Only in the perfect society is there no need for guns and only a responsible police force should have guns.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I think I'll agree with redstar on this one, he seems to have the right idea

[Show me the Money]

why... PEPPER SPRAY!!!!!

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Scotty.

ps. we don't need no firearms.. we revolutionize the world with pepper spray!!!

[Umoja]

Guns are a must. Utopia can't exist in any forseeable form yet. People aren't perfect, and need to defend themselves. The police can't be trusted with weapons more then anyone else, and the presence of police simply proves that crimes can still be commited.

[Anarcho]

It always amuses me that a group of people who in the past have advocated a violent revolution are quite set against the populace having firearms.

In a well regulated state, there would be no harm in having personally owned weapons.

[BRIN]

it should be like the swiss army,when your 18 you attend military training for 3 months and after that you are issued with a assalt rifle or rifle then you must regurly attend sports activitys in your local club and do 2 weeks of military training each year