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[Saint-Just]

I read the thread on the Dalai Lama's letter to Bush. I was interested by your comments, the anarchist. I think you are correct in asserting that it is a letter from one bourgeois leader to another.

Religion is certainly opposed to Marxism-Leninism, and the comments of the Dalai Lama capitulate that obvious fact. 'His Holiness' is a highly liberal pacifist, and the letter being to a capitalist.

This is amonst the reason the Red Army suppressed Buddhism to some extent in 1950 and that the Dalai Lama left the country.

[Anonymous]

Dont take me wrong...
i did not mean taht the Red Army was somewhat right in his agression to Tibete...

China´s direct agression to Tibete was a clear imperialist attack.. leaving the tibetians other change but religious fanatism...

[Saint-Just]

Quote: from the anarchist on 9:49 pm on April 9, 2003
Dont take me wrong...
i did not mean taht the Red Army was somewhat right in his agression to Tibete...

China´s direct agression to Tibete was a clear imperialist attack.. leaving the tibetians other change but religious fanatism...


I've argued that question before. However, more importantly I was referring to your rejection of the Dalai Lama as a force for the good of the working class.

Also, to your views becoming more 'radical'. Well if they get too much more 'radical' you may end up being like me. And you will not protest Tibet situation and so forth. Nevertheless, China did allow Tibet certain powers and gave it a certain amount of religious freedom.

(Edited by Chairman Mao at 10:04 pm on April 9, 2003)

[Anonymous]

well no ofence but i hope i dont become like you...

i am not that leninist hardliner nor do i hope to become one...

[Saint-Just]

Quote: from the anarchist on 11:35 pm on April 9, 2003
well no ofence but i hope i dont become like you...

i am not that leninist hardliner nor do i hope to become one...



You have gone towards the direction of Leninism. I thought I would never be like I am, however, as you can see, I was wrong. Although it is most probably unlikely you will become like me. Depends on the cirumstances around you and what you continue to learn.

[Anonymous]

yes...

we can continue this discussion on a "certain" board we both know ;)

(Hint: SovieT)

[Saint-Just]

Quote: from the anarchist on 12:04 am on April 11, 2003
yes...

we can continue this discussion on a "certain" board we both know ;)

(Hint: SovieT)

I understand ;)

[Severian]

I wrote an article on the whole Tibet issue once. Let's see....here.

Link to article (http://www.seeingred.com/Copy/3.1_freetibet.html)

I've done a fair bit more reading on Tibet since, but it holds up reasonably well.

I got interested in the subject 'cause there wasn't anything on the subject from a viewpoint I trusted - it was all either glorifiers of exiled serf-owning theocrats like the Dalai Lama or else wholly uncritical support to the Chinese government.

So to get a bead on it at all, I had to read a lot of stuff from different viewpoints.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Quote: from Chairman Mao on 10:55 pm on April 10, 2003

Quote: from the anarchist on 11:35 pm on April 9, 2003
well no ofence but i hope i dont become like you...

i am not that leninist hardliner nor do i hope to become one...



You have gone towards the direction of Leninism. I thought I would never be like I am, however, as you can see, I was wrong. Although it is most probably unlikely you will become like me. Depends on the cirumstances around you and what you continue to learn.


C.MAO seems more authoritian than anarchist, so I think that the anarchist will become more leftist but not more authoritian andso not go your way, but my way :biggrin: Long live the very libertian commnists!

[Anonymous]

Im not taht libertarian...

sure society should be as free as it can be..

yet freedom must be restrained..

we jsut cant allow the bourgeouse to gather and attack us,....
the same goes to racist, homophobic, nazi, fascist, rightwinger groups....

my motto is: "Bread, Land, Freedom, Hash, one party state and planed economy for everyone!
bullets for the right!"

ok so this last sentence was pretty lammy...

anyways...
i am not a "liberal" in the real sense, since liberalism (and liberal democracy) is a bourgeouse movement...

i do still agree with the social freedom part...


i am also a follower of Mao´s cultural revolution..
so that leaves litle space for liberalism..
i am very hardliner when talking about ideologys...

[Saint-Just]

Quote: from CCCP on 10:31 pm on April 22, 2003
C.MAO seems more authoritian than anarchist, so I think that the anarchist will become more leftist but not more authoritian andso not go your way, but my way :biggrin: Long live the very libertian commnists!


In respect to that political compass that everyone seems to have knowledge of I am -10.00/-3.90.
I have only seen one leftist get a more authoritarian score than me, that was Ymir. Mazdak is rather authorative however, but seemingly in a different way.

the anarchist has become more authoritarian and more left, so he is moving towards me. He is not becoming more libertarian.

[Anonymous]

i just noticed that almost all guys in JCP actually are more authoritarian than most PCP guys....

this is, we belive more in the one party state and the real dictatorship of the proletariat by a revolution than by a libertarian democracy like PCP wants....

even though PCP is pretty marxist as well...
the opnly problem is they sometimes ignore that socialism cannot be achieved with silk gloves...
this is, we can only make a socialist state with a revolution...

but i think this radicalism may be a product of our youth...


not to be a show off, yet yesterday during a JCP party about 25 of april revolution (in wich i was working and YET got drunk) anyways after the party we went to someones house and started to chat (wile we smoked some pot but that is irrelevant) and they (JCP senior member wich is the guy who gives me the panflets and propaganda, a young worker that belongs to the JCP as well, a PCP guy wich i really dunno what the fuck is his job and a symnpatizer) well we started to talk about JCP bla bla bla and we then started to talk about marxism-leninism, were they were very surprised witht he fact of my suport of Mao and the true basis of marxism-leninism being the one party state and all that...

later i realised i had just assured my staying in JCP for my ideals...

[the SovieT]

oh and comrades dont bother talking with the anarchist...

hes cold dead....

now i LIVE!!!!


anyways...
this is not a reformed version of waht were the final days of "the anarchist" but rather a continuation of what was the final days of the anarchist... or... the end of the begining...