The War on Britains Jews

[Andy Bowden]

Did anyone see this documentary done last night? Satire must have died all over again to have a programme about anti-racism done by Richard "who gives a monkeys if the mbongo tribe wipes out the mbingo tribe" Littlejohn :wacko:

The central theme of it seemed to be that anti-semitism is on the increase, and not just from the far-right, but also the far-left and Islamists who have formed an unholy alliance due to mutual hatred of Israel.

I've watched some of it on you tube but it doesnt have the bit about the Left uploaded on it - at least not yet.

Anyone else see it, thoughts etc?

[Dimentio]

Classical to equate anti-zionism with antisemitism. But I am not too fond of alliances with Hezbollah.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

I deliberately avoided it since I did not want to see a chair thrown thru' my TV!

Review here:

http://www.johannhari.com/archive/article.php?id=1152

[Fair enough, Hari is a git, but he gets some things right now and again!]

[Dimentio]

Hahaha... classical. I think the biblical ideas about Jews as a "chosen people" still prevents people to treat them as individuals responsible for their actions.

[bcbm]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10, 2007 07:28 am
Classical to equate anti-zionism with antisemitism.
Antizionism is not the same as antisemitism, but this is also one way that actual antisemitism on the left is conveniently brushed aside.

[Dr Mindbender]

I didnt watch it but I would be grateful if someone could post a link to it on Youtube or something just so i can see how bad it is.

Did Littlejohn even bother interviewing one of the 'hezbollah supporting leftists' for a impartial perspective? I bet he didnt.

[Dimentio]

Originally posted by black coffee black metal+July 10, 2007 08:42 pm--> (black coffee black metal @ July 10, 2007 08:42 pm)
[email protected] 10, 2007 07:28 am
Classical to equate anti-zionism with antisemitism.
Antizionism is not the same as antisemitism, but this is also one way that actual antisemitism on the left is conveniently brushed aside. [/b]
Yes, there is too much black'n'white thinking within the left, I agree. Here in Sweden for example, the support of Palestine tend to be of an irrational, emotional nature, most often because the proponents of unconditional struggle for Palestine tend to be people who have broken off with their evangelical parents and therefore switched 180 degrees ("christianity is repressive, homophobic and misogynic, but islam is the religion of peace").

[TC]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10, 2007 04:17 pm
I think the biblical ideas about Jews as a "chosen people" still prevents people to treat them as individuals responsible for their actions.
what, the, fuck?

Clearly there is no "war on Britain's Jews", Jews are not an oppressed minority group like, say, Arab Britons...

...but that comment was f'ing creepy. No one thinks that way and, thinking that sounds frankly scary.

[Dimentio]

Originally posted by TragicClown+July 10, 2007 10:13 pm--> (TragicClown @ July 10, 2007 10:13 pm)
[email protected] 10, 2007 04:17 pm
I think the biblical ideas about Jews as a "chosen people" still prevents people to treat them as individuals responsible for their actions.
what, the, fuck?

Clearly there is no "war on Britain's Jews", Jews are not an oppressed minority group like, say, Arab Britons...

...but that comment was f'ing creepy. No one thinks that way and, thinking that sounds frankly scary. [/b]
What I mean is that since the main pro/anti-zionist debate is taking place in protestant countries we should note that most people have been grown up in an environment affected by protestantism. The myth about Israel is something prevalent in evangelical culture, and has affected secular liberals as well.

[Andy Bowden]

Saw the rest of it, specifically the bits regarding the Left.

Some of it was legitimate - liberal intellectuals blaming Jews for American policy is not an invention, it does happen. The New Statesman issue talking about a 'kosher conspiracy' is an obvious example.

Not only is the theory anti-semitic, its also nonsense in that small groups of people of specific races or religion do not dictate capitalist policy, material interest does.

Sometimes it benefits specific races or religion but its not directed by them, and in the case of the relationship between USA and Israel those alleging America is controlled by the Jews/Israel are letting the tail wag the dog.

However those who make these assertions usually are liberals, and not those who would be considered on the revolutionary, or socialist left.

Other parts were shite. Featured the demos with "We are all Hezbollah" placards, which were made by the Islamic Human Rights Commission - not the SWP/STWC. The inference seemed to be you shouldn't demonstrate against the war on Lebanon (which of course was also skewed by the programme) if it means marching with people who you may disagree with.

Of course it is true that the SWP do back Hezbollah, and thats another discussion. But Rightists justified backing the Afghan Muhjahadeen using similar rhetoric - Red Army is main enemy, etc.

And history has clearly shown the Afghan Muhjahadeen were and are far more reactionary than Hezbollah.

[Dr Mindbender]

Ah yes, but the Mujahadeen never threatened the interests of Israel, so in the grand scale of things that makes them the 'good guys'. :D

It was just unfortunate for them that they had to get in the way of that whole awful affair in 2001 involving Bin Laden. :lol:

[Intifada]

I don't see the police breaking into Jewish homes and shooting them.

I do see the same happening to Britain's Muslims.

Indeed I saw parts of it, but it was full of the Zionist bullshit that people should not be surprised to hear a right-wing twat like Littlejohn come up with.